Rem. R38S12 Dropped?

Boge · #1 03-30-2014, 01:44 AM

Midway shows this:

Remington Express Ammo 38 Special +P 158 Grain Lead Hollow Point Box

Discontinued? Remington's own website is worthless for ammo info. I sure hope they didn't discontinue this (158 gr. +p LSWCHP).

ArchAngelCD · #2 03-30-2014, 05:42 AM

Yes and No!
They are discontinuing the R38S12 ammo number and re-releasing the same exact ammo under their Remington High Terminal Performance Ammunition line. Call me a scenic but I feel it's being done so they can charge us more. It's the same exact ammo that's over 50 years old in design and now they move it to a new line of their ammo with a fancy name and a higher price, nothing else has changed but the name and price! The new Remington Part # is RTP38S12.
http://www.ableammo.com/catalog/remington-high-terminal-performance-handgun-ammunition-rtp38s12-special-lead-hollow-point-rdbx-p-134844.html

Boge · #3 03-30-2014, 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by ArchAngelCD

Yes and No!
They are discontinuing the R38S12 ammo number and re-releasing the same exact ammo under their Remington High Terminal Performance Ammunition line. Call me a scenic but I feel it's being done so they can charge us more. It's the same exact ammo that's over 50 years old in design and now they move it to a new line of their ammo with a fancy name and a higher price, nothing else has changed but the name and price! The new Remington Part # is RTP38S12.
http://www.ableammo.com/catalog/remington-high-terminal-performance-handgun-ammunition-rtp38s12-special-lead-hollow-point-rdbx-p-134844.html

I guess I knew that as I have some of it in the new box. Duh!! I fell asleep at the wheel there!! Here's the new listing:

Remington High Terminal Performance Ammo 38 Special +P 158 Grain Lead

shouldazagged · #4 03-30-2014, 11:06 AM

Marketing ploy, not-so-pure and simple.

I've used the Remington FBI load for years, and still like and trust it; but I'm presently trying the Buffalo Bore standard pressure version, which gives virtually identical velocity and energy in a low-flash round.

Nevada Ed · #5 03-30-2014, 11:42 AM

Have no fear....................

The 38 GS load does just as good and comes in standard and "Bonded".

Penetrates 13.7" in gel with four layers of denim....... no clogs
out of a new model snub S&W J frame, +p rated.

PS;
one gentleman tested the new stuff in a 6" and found out that the readings were.......
100 fps slower than the old stuff. ( more cost cuts )

Alk8944 · #6 03-30-2014, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ArchAngelCD

It's the same exact ammo that's over 50 years old in design and now they move it to a new line of their ammo with a fancy name and a higher price, nothing else has changed but the name and price!

Did you follow the links? In Midway the new stock number is $6 LESS than the old, discontinued product. Since neither is in-stock it's a moot point anyway.

shawn mccarver · #7 03-30-2014, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Boge

I guess I knew that as I have some of it in the new box. Duh!! I fell asleep at the wheel there!! Here's the new listing:

Remington High Terminal Performance Ammo 38 Special +P 158 Grain Lead

Everyone needs a little rest now and then!

poordevil · #8 03-30-2014, 01:42 PM

is the new stuff in nickel cases? What pictures I have seen, it appears they are in brass cases.

CoMF · #9 03-30-2014, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by poordevil

is the new stuff in nickel cases? What pictures I have seen, it appears they are in brass cases.

Sure is; please see the attached photo. (Credit goes to Ben hutcherson, not me.)

poordevil · #10 03-30-2014, 07:13 PM

cool. good to know . Thank you

ArchAngelCD · #11 03-31-2014, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Alk8944

Did you follow the links? In Midway the new stock number is $6 LESS than the old, discontinued product. Since neither is in-stock it's a moot point anyway.

You can put any price you want on something that is backordered. Wait and see what it costs when it's back in stock!

Boge · #12 04-01-2014, 02:39 AM

Bass Pro carries this (usually). I bought 6 boxes total last summer at two different location (at different times) last Summer. It was cheaper as well.