I learned something new today! I have become interested in vintage .22 ammo in a small way. I have a few boxes and was wondering how old they were and how much they may be worth.

I was turned on to the following website :.22 Box Identification Guide for Collectors

I am sure that lots of you folks already knew about it, but for those that did not, check it out. The wealth of information on it is staggering! I hate to think how long it would take to accumulate the information.

My camera needs new batteries, so I can't take pictures of some of mine until later. Collectors and accumulators........show me what you have in vintage .22 ammo!! From looking at the above website, there must be a zillion different ones.

PS - Mods, I wasn't sure if I should post this here or in the Ammo Section.

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Miss My Buddy crsides!!

Thanks for the site post. A lot of boxes and variations - easy to see how serious collectors can spend a life time finding them all. Like many, I collect boxes to display with my firearms. Here are some of my Winchester and Western boxes.

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Rush

My brother collects .22 Rimfire boxes (full)
He primarily has Remington
The number of different variations is amazing, 100s.

I thought I had accumulated a nice collection, having over 500 different boxes. Then I met a serious collector that had in excess of 3,600 different boxes.

We need some pictures of some of your favorites! Maybe you can help me with some values when I can post a picture tomorrow. Had you seen that website that I posted in the first post before?

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Miss My Buddy crsides!!

I just picked up two of these boxes.

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Don Mundell

Wow! and thanks for bringing back some memories. Recall a few of em from 60s or 70s but luckily not old enough to recall all. Imagine the prices of some of that ammo back then. Thanks again.

Don,
What brand is that? Looks interesting. I can't make much out from your picture?

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Miss My Buddy crsides!!

Neat thread! I've been collecting rare old ammo most of my life. Stuff like boxes of 41 Swiss, 41 Long Colt, and 44 Russian. Then I realized that I didn't really have a collection of 22 rim fire. Started looking at gun shows around here. . .not much luck. It's hard to find. About a year ago I stumbled upon a dealer who had a really nice selection of full old boxes. I had a lot of it since I am "old" myself. I did wind up spending about $100 on 12 boxes. Here are some of the Remington boxes that I just pulled out of the drawer in front of me at my desk. The oldest one started production in the very late 1930's. I think I will start an album on this site for old ammo. Every time I stumble upon an old box I'll take a photo of it.

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Dr. B

boykinip .... thanks for posting this thread and the website....I was able to check out several old "bricks" I bought a couple of years back. Most of them were "Peters" and "Western" and seems they date to the early '60's.


Don

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I am computer challenged but will get the wife to post a few. While I mainly have typical brands, I prefer the hardware brands.

Here's some more info on .22 collecting:

Introduction To .22 Box Collecting - International Ammunition Association

I got some new batteries for my camera so I will post my ammo. The information I posted below the individual boxes is from my online research. I hope it is correct. All boxes are full:

I realize that the Al Freeland "Dewar Block" Ammo Box should have a box of ammo in the middle square, but it is too tight a fit for me to put a vintage box in it.

These are my most interesting! If anybody has any idea on values, I would appreciate the information.

"The Peters Cartridge Co., Cincinnati, Ohio; "SEMI-SMOKELESS". Green, red and yellow label with black and white printing. Buff, two-piece, full cover box. These Were Specifically Manufactured for Shooting Gallery Use. Introduced about 1920 and Continued until 1927."

"The Remington Arms Union Metallic Cartridge Company, Bridgeport, Conn. With “Incorporated” under Name (this happened in 1916); Red label with Red and white logo. Red side sealing label. Black mottled, two-piece, half-split box."

I thought that the black edges of this box looked worn and in kinda bad shape. But then I found out that it is supposed to be like that (black mottled) with a marbled look and is in actually very good condition.

"The Remington Arms Union Metallic Cartridge Company, Bridgeport, Conn. With Incorporated under Name; Buff Box with Red label with black printing. Has “Incorporated” under name (this happened in 1916). Red and white logo. Two-piece, half-split box."

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Miss My Buddy crsides!!

Here are some boxes I've picked up over the years. Great thread, boykinlp.
Regards,
turnerriver

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I am sorry for not posting photos. The wife does that work for me and she had to leave town unexpectedly this morning and wont be back for a few days. Some nice boxes have been shown so far. My particular interest is in the odd named boxes such as airway, coast to coast, wards, seekers, navy arms, colt, copperheads, concords and similar.

Vintage 22 ammo is definitely a hobby in and of itself. I've accumulated a bunch of it passively over the years and there is always a different one or a variant of one, or an obscure one, etc etc. I'm almost worried to read too much about it because lord knows I don't need another thing to collect!

I don't have much idea on what I wind up with but I do like old .22 also.

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Paul
S&WCA #2726

I have a few in storage....lots of variants out there, thats for sure.

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No hurries on posting. I have never heard of most of the ones you listed.

Awe, come on, jump on in with both feet......the water is fine!!


One thing that I thought was pretty cool was when I saw the head stamp on my Western Super X cases. The case is tiny, but the head stamp is very detailed. It is the word SUPER in a geometric shape on top of the letter X.

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Miss My Buddy crsides!!

I will answer that for Don - US Cartridge Company from Lowell, MA. Where they were made was probably why Don bought them.

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Gary
SWCA 2515

Seems to be a popular theme here...

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"I also cook."

I guess you should be warned....now you will pick up any rimfire.
Oh look 25 short rimfire....oh look 32 long rimfire ....41 short aren't they cute...****n while you can

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Paul
S&WCA #2726

Good lord I am getting old. I used super X and the wildcat was a favorite.

Packed nice and tight. I would not want to carry that too far though.

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Miss My Buddy crsides!!

What is the box above your Badger Box?


Anymore ammo pics out there?

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Miss My Buddy crsides!!

Here are some Peters and Western boxes. Boxes may appear to be duplicates but each is a different loading. Gives an idea of the number of variations there are.

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There's no label on that one. It could be homemade.



These ammo boxes were very popular in the 50's - 60's and I grab them whenever I can. I have a few, including another Badger, a Freeland and a few more that aren't marked.

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I have several older .22 Rimfire Boxes (some full) Oldest I think is a 100 Round Box of UMC BB Caps,I will try & post a pic or 2 tomorrow,I think some of the older Dog Bone Box Remingtons have Copper Cases instead of Brass

Well the wife made it back but her good camera didn't. Please forgive the quality of the photos. I have many of the usual type that has been posted by others, and my particular interest in collecting is off brands. The first photo are 22 shorts, a particular passion of mine. Photo #2 is just some off breed brands. On the bottom of photo #2 are some items of particular interest, the Wards Shot Box is apparently quite rare as I saw an example sell on Ebay for $152, and the box was empty and mine is full. Also on the bottom row on the far right is the quite rare US Military full metal jacket load in the original sealed aluminum wrapper. As far as I know no other readilyy available full metal jacket 22's were produced. Photo #3 is just some oddball stuff including a box of British Military 22's and because of the glare you cannot see that the red blister pack are tracers. Photo #4 is just some bizarre oddball things, the only things of distinction are the yellow 40 pack of Super X and the ever increasing difficult to acquire Wildcats in the blue box. These are the most interesting and I tried not to post photos that other people had already posted. If you have any questions please feel free to ask.









OOPS, picture number 4 is the picture of the shorts.

If you buy or sell vintage ammo other than FTF, how do you ship it? USPS wants no part of it.

Fed X or UPS are the only carriers I know of that ships ammo. This is a real killer for us collectors. UPS minimum charge is $11 in my area.

Got a couple Pictures of some of My Vintage .22 Ammo Also have quite a bit of Centerfire & Shotgun Ammo that is older[IMG][/IMG][IMG][/IMG]

Pictures of some of your .22 ammo was worth the wait. Are the .22 shot cartridges similar to the CCI shot shells? So what do you think your full Wards Shot Box is worth?

Never heard of full metal jacket .22s! Any pictures of the actual ammo itself?

Never seen .22 tracer ammo either! Thanks for sharing.

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Miss My Buddy crsides!!

What is a B.B.Cap? When were yours manufactured?

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BB Caps I believe are low velocity,As far as age I really don't know a guess would be 1920's-1930's box is about 3/4 full

Have to apologize again for the quality of the pics, it was kind of a drive by photo shoot. The Wards shot shells do not have a capsule like the CCI does. The case is longer and tapered and has an overshot wad like an old shotgun shell. For value I have no idea. It just shocked me that an identical box sold for so much. The full metal jacket cartridges were made to comply with the Hague Convention. Remington made 2 batches one call T-24 and the other T-42. Go figure. I do not have a single round and the box is sealed so I will never open it. You can Google and find actual pictures. These rounds and not rare but quite uncommon. These were used up through the Vietnam war. I should have posted a picture of the oddball 22 extra long. I only have one single round of this old round.

Sorry I didn't get right back to you. I just got back from Greenville Maine. Like Gary said, It is from the United States Cartridge Company Lowell Mass. Gray, that's not why I bought them. They were in a cigar box with a mint 1st 3rd.
The guy didn't what them, so I got them both. This one is for sale.

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Paul
Try taking the masking tape off the US Cartridge box with a hair dryer. Get the tape really warm. It should soften up the tape and make it easy to remove.

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added more to the pile yesterday.
and I wanted to bump the thread anyway to see more from others
Is it bad when you pick it up by the brick ?

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Paul
S&WCA #2726

Fixed it for you!!!!

Whiz Bang is a new brand for me.

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Miss My Buddy crsides!!

i heard that any ammo box that has the kids warning on it isnt considered "old" as a general rule. Can anyone verify this? When did the kids warnings first appear?

The Fed's mandated the child safety warning on ammo boxes in 1962.

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"I also cook."

Interesting. I would have thought it was much later than that. In '62 it was still fashionable for everyone, including pregnant moms to smoke, no one wore seat belts, and 2/3 of the population was dropping acid. Thank goodness Uncle Sugar was looking out for the kids!

Thanks Chad for the 411.

While I do not consider myself a serious cartridge collector, if and when antique ammo crosses my path I usually scoff it up quickly. I've got several dozen examples of antique boxes and bricks of vintage .22 ammo and center fire stuff too. Love to take it out and look at it from time to time.

I like your WHIZ BANGS. I have never owned a box but would like to have the whole set. They never were available or affordable to me.

I like your WHIZ BANGS. I have never owned a box but would like to have the whole set.

Thanks...I think they were made for a long time with lots of variations.
I know I have others

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S&WCA #2726

Yep, Whiz-Bang is my new favorite brand name!

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