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Old 03-22-2016, 08:21 PM
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Is there ammo purchase limit online? If one purchases over certain amount, they get red flagged and get put on a list of sort? Any truth to this?
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Old 03-22-2016, 08:27 PM
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There is no federal law. The only limits I have seen were put on place by the retailer presumably to protect inventory levels from being depleted by only a few buyers making large purchases.
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Old 03-22-2016, 08:29 PM
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Not unless you live in one of the Kommie states. I've bought many thousands of rounds online. Many . . . . no issues whatsoever.
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I live in California. Assuming they can get it passed this year the Commies that run this state will make it illegal to obtain ammunition in any fashion other than a face-to-face, over-the-counter sale requiring an ammunition buying license, which will be tracked. That is not now the case. With luck it will never be, but.........
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What kind of list? What kind of limit?
I'm sure you're added to the list of customers for that seller... I get emails from most of the companies I have purchased from. Some companies have clauses stating they can sell your info to other companies for marketing purposes.
Many companies still have a limit on the amount of 22 lr you can purchase. Other than that the limit is your bank account or the sellers inventory. I've seen people advertise 5.56 by the 55 gallon drum, 9mm by the 10,000 count, etc.
I've never heard of retailers sharing ammo purchases with government entities.
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I live in California. Assuming they can get it passed this year the Commies that run this state will make it illegal to obtain ammunition in any fashion other than a face-to-face, over-the-counter sale requiring an ammunition buying license, which will be tracked. That is not now the case. With luck it will never be, but.........
Are you doing anything to stop it? It's up to you, and your fellow 'fornians, to beat this.
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Old 03-22-2016, 08:50 PM
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If you are worried about being on a list, put on your tin foil hat and stay away from firearm related forums and websites.
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Are you doing anything to stop it? It's up to you, and your fellow 'fornians, to beat this.
Please sir, we are not fornians. Yes we are deep behind enemy lines and will fight the good fight.

Fellow Calgunners and Patriots who will try to educate others and vote to keep our rights.

Outnumbered here, but still trying to do some good.

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Officially and legally no. Unofficially the NSA tracks all sorts of things.
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Old 03-22-2016, 09:32 PM
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No truth to that rumor. Some states and localities forbid delivery, but that is another issue.
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You get put on the UPS driver's poop list because he gets tired of carrying those heavy cases of ammo up to your door.
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Buy now, things change. Have enough.
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The only limit is your credit card and if a retailer put a cap on the amount so as not to pissing off all their customers
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Do you really think Data Mining is NOT being done on guns and ammo purchases?

Walmart tracks sprays paints and chemicals for huffing.

Fertilzer purcheses and various chemicals are monitored.

Do you really think this is not being monitored?

My grocery monitors how much I buy and what.
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I live in California. Assuming they can get it passed this year the Commies that run this state will make it illegal to obtain ammunition in any fashion other than a face-to-face, over-the-counter sale requiring an ammunition buying license, which will be tracked. That is not now the case. With luck it will never be, but.........
Lived there 1985 to 1986...that was ENOUGH...it's all wrong. CA was so beautiful til' the 1950's...
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There are a lot more of US buying thousands of rounds of ammo than THEM watching us buy it. I'm not too worried. There are probably trillions of rounds in civilian hands.
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The most I ever bought at one time was 1000rds 223 REM and another time 1000rds 9mm.When I bought my AR15 the LGS had a pallet of 556 NATO.I think buying several thousand rounds at the same time might have raised more than a few eyebrows.

It wouldn't surprise me one bit though if someone questioned why you wanted 10,000 rds of 556 LAP.Why raise suspicion? We don't really know what goes on behind our backs.

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There are certainly companies out there monitoring what you buy and where you buy it, but there is not a legal registry that limits your purchases of ammo. Yet.
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Old 03-31-2016, 03:58 PM
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Man! You should have seen how FAST that boat sank with all that lead in it!
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Officially and legally no. Unofficially the NSA tracks all sorts of things.
They can't even unlock an iPhone without the help of some 30-something Cheeto eating, Code Red drinking dude living in his mom's basement. The ability of the government to track everything is way overrated. Wal-Mart and Amazon are much better at it . . .
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I borrowed this link from ladder13's post: Evacuate the neighborhood, 75 rounds found. I suggest that you view this 'news' clip, and then go back and read his thread. If this kind of insanity can happen in TEXAS of all places, who knows what is in store for us in the future. I was frankly shocked that it could happen anywhere in the US, but in Texas??? I know that this doesn't have any thing directly to do with ammo limits, but it sure shows which way the wind might blow.

75 rounds of ammunition found underneath house, nearby homes evacuated | News, Weather, Sports, Breaking News | WOAI
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Really? The bomb squad for 75 rounds if old ammo? I'm surprised this happened in a town in Texas. Really? Not a good use if taxpayer dollars at all.
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Unless they were old Mortar rounds that is ridiculous.
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I contacted someone in San Antonio, and they were just plain old .40 cal. S&W rounds. Looks like there were at least 6 first responder vehicles in the film clip. and they had been there before to destroy some old shotgun shells. There are so many things wrong with this that I just can't get my head around it. It does not bode well for the future. Most of us here on the forum have more than 75 rounds laying around. Can you imagine the police, fire, and EMTs showing up at our houses?
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Better stock up now. Powder, primers, lead and brass. Not to mention live ammo. All will soon be taxed so heavily the common man won't be able to afford to shoot or load. Think about it, It's the B.A.T.F. They already tax the **** out of the A and the T. You have got to know the F is next.


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I believe you are right. Here in Cook County Il. a 5 cent /rnd tax goes into effect 6/1/2016. Except for 22s, which will be taxed @ 1 cent/rnd.
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First -- if you go online for ANYTHING, you are being red-flagged or put on SOMEONE'S list for some purpose.

Second, if the government is doing it, how would we know? It's something they would not advertise, I am sure.
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I believe you are right. Here in Cook County Il. a 5 cent /rnd tax goes into effect 6/1/2016. Except for 22s, which will be taxed @ 1 cent/rnd.
They are doing the same thing in Seattle. GAWD I am SO glad to be 300 miles away from that bat-guano insane asylum.

As for scrambling the bomb squad for a box of shotgun shells or rifle ammo, whoever made that decision should be on the unemployment line. THOUSANDS of dollars of tax payer money wasted for absolutely NOTHING!. If I lived there I'd be rounding up the troops to go to the next City Council meeting and calling for someone's head - which they obviously aren't using for anything.
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I contacted someone in San Antonio, and they were just plain old .40 cal. S&W rounds. Looks like there were at least 6 first responder vehicles in the film clip. and they had been there before to destroy some old shotgun shells. There are so many things wrong with this that I just can't get my head around it. It does not bode well for the future. Most of us here on the forum have more than 75 rounds laying around. Can you imagine the police, fire, and EMTs showing up at our houses?
Most of us here on the forum have more than 75 rounds of SD ammo in their night stand, wow!

75 rounds of 40 S&W ammo isn't even 2 boxes of ammo!!!
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Yikes! and in Texas no less! I've probably lost more than 75 rounds in my couch cushions...
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Austin is a big ugly blue spot in a beautiful red state.

Austin has a Chief of Police who is completely anti gun.

Austin has a great many great professional police officers
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On watching the vid in San Antonio I think the talking heads didn't get the information right. I "think" the ammo that was found was 40MM vice 40 cal. the reason for this is the ammo was over 40 years old. 40 S&W started production in Jan of 1990. 10mm auto started in 1983. That makes the oldest of the 2 only 33 years old.

Do you really think the bomb squad would come out for a box and a half of 40 caliber?

I bet they were 40mm M79 rounds (Probably trainers)

And the OP is already on the watch list because he posts here.
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I thought the same thing when I first saw this, but I checked with a source in San Antonio, and he assures me that they were in fact plain old .40 S&W rounds. They were guessing about the age, because someone had written a date on the box, which wasn't original. Also, the same bomb squad had been there earlier to "dispose" of some dangerous shotgun shells. This was all hashed out on ladder13's original thread. I have watched this clip over and over, and I am still stunned by the enormity of ignorance shown by the "news" media, as well as the lack of understanding of munitions shown by supposedly knowledgeable first responders. I was assured privately that these were not 40mm grenades, but plain old 40 S&W. I wish that your surmise were correct, at least then this would make sense. The way it is, it is just chilling... The sort of nightmare scenario that we could envision in a world controlled by gun demonizers and prohibitionists.
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I'm certainly not an expert, but there are some things that are restricted by BATFE, if in fact, the rounds in the San Antonio story were live 40mm grenades, with HE, they would be considered "destructive devices', and would be subject to the provisions of the NFA. They might be transferable, but would be subject to the same sort of regulation as machine guns. Ordinary explosives are regulated differently, and are still under the purview of BATFE. but I do not think that they restrict ordinary ammunition sales. There may be some restrictions on ammunition whose caliber exceeds .50, but I can't remember off the top of my head. There are some rules regarding shipment, but I would not consider these to be restrictions.

As I said, I'm not an expert, perhaps someone can chime in.

In my years in law enforcement, it was my general experience that most of the BATFE agents were not anti gun, but sometimes the upper echelons were. The political appointees are probably selected in accordance with the political views of the President at the time of appointment. The agents are professionals, many of whom joined up because they liked guns, much as some folks become DNR officers because they like to hunt and fish, and be in the outdoors.
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The BATFE is a federal law enforcement agency; they do not set tax rates or make decisions about what gets taxed. I know of no proposals at the federal level that have even a remote chance of passage to tax ammunition or components. There has been an excise tax on both firearms and ammunition that has been in existence for more than 90 years and has never been changed.
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I thought the report of 40 S&W must be wrong and they would never call out the bomb squad for normal ammo until I saw in the same report the bomb squad was send out a few days earlier for SHOTGUN SHELLS!!! Someone needs to be fired for misuse of those resources and tax dollars.
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I say buy as much ammo as you can afford, because it just might be the currency of the future.

I remember when plain Twinkies were selling for more than $30 a box on ebay, and they weren't even banned or regulated.

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You are right about buying all you can. After all ammo doesn't eat much and sits just fine on a shelf.

Having said that, after Y2K, I shot the last of the EC43 steel cased 45ACP my father had given me. I figure that stuff was at least 60 years old and just as hot as when they made it.

So what ever you put away today will not lose value and will be available for your use at a later time. It is a hard good that is stable in value.
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