Hi guys, new to the forum but i was wondering if any of you have had problems with FTF from buffalo bore? I bought 2 boxes of .44 mag deer grenade buffalo bores, in the first box of 20 i had 6 misfires. I contacted buffalo bore about this and they claimed that it was a faulty gun. He stated that all the primer were set with a machine and could not be out of spec. Just visually looking at the FTF rounds you can see how much deeper the primer is set than the rounds that fired. I measured the FTF rounds primer depth and it was roughly .007"-.010" from round to round. I believe the spec is .005-.007". I mentioned this to the manufacturer and he said that he had been making ammo for 40+ years and it wasnt his ammo at fault. He also told me that i could email him all i want and he wouldnt respond any more. I have attatched a picture so you can see the difference in depth.

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The primer on the fired case looks very flat indicating at the very least the pressures were on the high end. Also looks like cratering which happens under excess pressure.

The unfired round looks as though it wasn't hit very hard at all and most likely not quite hard enough to set it off. The primer doesn't appear to be seated too deep but hard to tell from the photo. My guess is a combo of a hard primer and possibly a gun that has trigger work done to it with a lighter hammer spring? Again, this is just a guess.

Welcome to the forum.

Seems customer service is a recurring theme here lately. The photo seems clear cut that something is amiss with their production. If you still want to get their attention, you could try copying your post, with picture, to their Facebook page.

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Buffa...12097152200394

No trigger work has been done. It definitley could be an issue with the gun but never before has it misfired with any other ammo. Then i get a half dozen in one box.

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Look like pretty hot loads to me.Maybe they've got a source for extra hard primers?

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I agree with Ballistic147. The fired round has a flattened primer that has flowed to fill every last bit of the primer pocket. That doesn't happen unless you are at very high pressures. I've never seen that on factory before but I don't shoot Buffalo Bore ammo so maybe it's normal for those

The unfired round has a very light primer strike. That looks like the strike of a free floating firing pin bouncing off a round when chambering. A strike that light probably isn't going to set off any primer.

This is the first issue ive had with misfire. Every other ammo ran through it never missed a beat. But im no gunsmith or expert and it definitley could be an issue with the gun. But the .010 depth primers on some of them leads me to believe its an ammo issue.

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I'd chalk it up to experience and go back to the ammunition that works in your gun. From what you say, that seems to be anything and everything else! Aggravating, I know, but at least nobody has been hurt and your gun is in order.

Kaaskop49
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Does he have a qebsite

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Does he have a website?

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What are you shooting it out of? Have you checked your strain screw to make sure it isn't backing out?

I believe that BB load is supposed to be a pretty hot load, so I don't think that fired primer being flattened is out of the ordinary. The other primer definitely indicates a very light hit which I wouldn't expect it to fire. Why?? weak mainspring or backed out strain screw is the first place I'd look at.

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All I can say about your primer depth is that you cannot compare a fired round with one unfired as the primer will set back after ignition.

Heavy recoiling handgun ammo needs the primer set a little bit deeper than "flush".

Dan

I realize that now, i wasnt aware that primers could back out like that after being fired.

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What kind of gun is involved?