Just wondering if anyone has tried this brand of ammo?
I seen it a a sporting goods store In 223 Rem. 62 gr. for White tail deer. The box claims its the first Fusion- energized deer bullet..

Photos of the cartridge just look like an ordinary soft point. Maybe they hide the fusion inside?

The bullets used in the Fusion loads are quality bullets.
I believe when they came out, the new Speer Deep Curl bullet was being loaded.

The bullet will work if the shooter does his job.

They are superb on deer at reasonable ranges and with decent shot placement.

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They kill hogs dead. Way better than green tips.

I'll be inside of 100 yards at most so distance shouldn't be a problem. Think I'll go to the range and and give them a try.
Thanks guys!

Is this the same as the Federal Fusion? I don't think I have seen any Fusion as a company name, I'd be surprised that Federal would stand for letting someone else to use their copyrighted name.

The Federal Fusion bullets expand very well - the core is bonded to the jacket.

I did not see Federals name on the box.

Looking at another thread I see it is made by Federal. The packaging is very busy, the name might be on the box somewhere but I didn't see it.

Excellent hunting blammo. Federal usually makes really good stuff and this is one of those products. It works much better on hogs than your M855 green tip.

This was about 10-11 years ago, and I was visiting Federal's factory in Anoka MN on another matter. While I was there, I stopped in to see the Federal ballistician. They were firing some .30-'06 Fusion loads into blocks of ballistic gelatin, and I pulled some of the fired bullets out with long tongs. Expansion was absolutely picture-perfect. I still have those bullets somewhere, but I haven't seen them for a long time.

That's good to know. I haven't had a chance to try these out yet But I have always had good luck with Federal ammo. I just talked to a friend last night about a couple hunting spots near his place in northern MI. told him about this Fusion ammo and. He said they have a lot of coyotes around up there so he's gonna try some of these on them.

The Federal ballistician was very high on praise for the performance of Fusion bullets (fairly new at that time), also the .30-'06 in general. His belief was that the .30-'06 was the best caliber available for North American larger game hunting. I generally agree with that.

Yes I think your right about the 30-06 caliber. Maybe next year i'll pick up a 30-06 rifle.

As long as you are not shooting at extreme ranges, the .30-'06 is about as versatile as you can get for use on almost any game in North America (and most of the rest of the world). With light bullets, it's even a pretty good varmint gun. Strange that it seems to have fallen out of favor. I was trying to sell a .30-'06 rifle I no longer needed several years ago. I had sort of a hard time, as no one wanted that caliber. Crazy.

I wonder why? Maybe all the new technology with lighter rifles, smaller caliber with more punch.

We live in society where we are constantly being manipulated -- by politicians, people with personal agendas, manufacturers and retailers. People have been manipulated in to feeling the "need" (really, the desire) for new and "better" rifles and cartridges to keep sales up. In reality there is very little really new or better in the market these days, just the same performance levels we've had for several generations in different packages.

In truth, a hunter with a sporterized 1903 Springfield or 98 Mauser is in no way at any disadvantage versus one armed with the latest, greatest wonder-rifle firing the short-fat "magnums" that at best only equal their slightly longer and skinnier ancestors.

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The proliferation of new calibers over the last 20 years or so has been amazing, especially those with short fat cases. I think many younger hunters must believe they need the latest fad cartridge, or else they will be at a hunting disadvantage. Or else they think that the old calibers such as the .270 and .30-'06 are hopelessly outdated and they are ashamed to be seen using them.

I just got back into deer hunting. so I needed new equipment, Clothes, and a few other things. Now this is the first time in 25 years since i have been hunting and I'm just blown away at all the stuff they have in these stores just for hunting deer. I don't remember seeing all that stuff 25 years ago. It's out of control.... I see people buying all these sprays to cover there scent... And the clothes they have out there now are so expensive. Now how did everyone including myself hunt deer 25 years ago and be successful? I used a pair of canvas coveralls,long johns,hat and gloves and a blaze orange something or other. Did the deer get smarter? hahaha So many gimmicks out there.

I have shot the 62 gr. Federal Fusion MSR in my AR. It is a bit more accurate than .223 FMJ or 5.56 FMJ. Haven't tried it on deer.

I believe that you will also find it a very good pig round.

Now, back to the high jacked portion of the thread. Hunting is dying. That simple. There are a lot of reasons why you see new calibers, science being one of them. Yes, there is some marketing behind it, but frankly, they have to keep us interested in a dying sport.

Most would not recommend any .22 CF round be used for deer hunting, even in those states where it is allowed. I know it is done, but there are much better and more humane calibers which should be used instead.

with good ammo, like the fusion, or other premium ammo, and provided you are a good shot, a .223 is fine for deer at closer ranges (say sub 200 yd), especially the small deer we have here in Texas. Now, shooting an ELK at 400 yds, not so much.

I didn't say that a .22 CF couldn't do the job. Of course it can. Just as a .22 LR could be used on deer. Would you use a .22 LR if you are a good shot and were allowed to?

I said many would not use it. And I personally would never consider using any .22 CF on deer.

You are correct I went to the range and shot 20 rounds and very accurate at 50 yards 6 rounds in a 1.5 in. circle with a red dot. Now at the range we can only shoot six at a time. Also I shot the 55 gr at the same distance and kept it in a 2-2.5 circle

The fusion and gold dot rifle bullet are almost identical in construction. Besides being a good hunting bullet and well priced, I know that at least the .223 loading have sealed primers and flash suppressant powders.

I shot a Nevada Mule deer at 150 yards with my 22-250 loaded
with the Speer Partition 60gr bullet, just behind the front shoulder.
The bullet was found on the far side stuck to the tissue next to the hide.
All the front and sides was blown away and only the very back
end of the bullet was left, that looked like a tiny aspirin.

A 22 dia. bullet will work but from then on I swore to nothing less than a
243 for deer, incase I struck a rib, going in.

Just did a little paper work......

.224 75gr HPBT BC .395 @ 2960fps ............. 250yds has 951 ft/lbs energy.

.243 100gr SPBT BC .430 factory at +/- 3,000fps.
Loaded down to just 2700 fps ..................... 300yds has 976 ft/lbs energy.

A lot of guys are going .308/7.62x51. Maybe because of low cost milsurp ammo?