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12-15-2016, 09:35 AM
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Glaser Safety Bulet
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Will the "Glasers" feed in a semi-auto ?
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12-15-2016, 09:40 AM
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Yes and no. Never had a problem with .45ACP. In 9mm, my vague recollection is that my SIG 225 would feed anything, the old square-face or the newer round ones. Not sure about my BHP and my Kahr. I seem to recall that at least one of those was a no-no even with the newer roundish rounds. Also, they usually shoot lower than normal-weight bullets.
Bears testing.
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12-15-2016, 10:12 AM
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They are called the Glaser Safety Slug. I carry some in my .45, never had a feeding problem. I checked that specifically before carrying them. I also keep an extra package in my safe, in .45 of course.
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12-15-2016, 10:19 AM
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In my opinion, all semi-autos need to be tested with ammo that will be used for duty purposes. This testing is required because even the most reliable semi-auto can still have ammo preferences.
I consider 50 rounds to be the minimum amount of rounds for testing duty ammo. And I try to work up to 100 rounds as soon as possible. After the ammo has been tested, I include some of the duty ammo in my range practice every few months.
Because of the reliability testing required with semi-autos, the cost of duty ammo matters. There are some top quality duty rounds that are available for around $1 per round. And the difference between $1 per round and $2 per round really adds up over time.
Revolvers require much less testing with duty ammo. If the revolver runs right, you are really just testing primer reliability and accuracy when you test your duty in a revolver. For this reason, I consider expensive ammo like the glasers best suited to use in revolvers.
Here is an article which says pretty much the same things I was thinking. I have no connection to this article or its author.
Exotic Ammunition What's Good And What's Gimmick GunData.org
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12-15-2016, 12:19 PM
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Article seems like more of a pitch for Glazer's failed magic bullet than a general overview of exotic ammunition. Author goes into great detail on the Safety Slug, the original gimmick, gives a quick pass to another round, and then denounces a few gimmick's by name, and nothing else, going into no detail of why they are failures or a good general idea of exotics in general.
To be honest, I'm actually a bit shocked anyone actually buys, carries, or uses Safety Slugs in this day and age, or why a company that produces actual reputable bullets still manufacturers them. Are Air Marshals still carrying them? I can't think of a single good reason out of very narrow circumstance otherwise.
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12-15-2016, 12:38 PM
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Duckford, you have made a fair point. I'll admit I may not have read the article very carefully. However, near the beginning of the article he states that Glaser safety slugs are only suitable for revolvers because they may not feed in semi-autos, and they are too expensive to test extensively. Those are the exact points I wanted to make, so I linked to the article.
Also, if those points are included in a puff piece intended to promote Glasers, then I would hate to hear what the author says about things he really does not like.
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12-15-2016, 12:45 PM
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I still carry GSS's in my 44 magnum if that is the SD gun I am carrying.
I did EXTENSIVE testing of the Glaser's several years ago in all calibers for a local PD who was thinking about going to them for duty guns. Without going too much into it, they basically live up to the claims.
For urban and CQB there is no better round in my opinion, others may differ.
To answer the OP, I have ran GSS's through Sigs, BHP's, 1911's, Glocks, H&K's, etc. I had one 1911 that would not feed them well initially, but after I got done throating and polishing it, it fed them fine. To be honest that particular gun had problems feeding hard ball.
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12-15-2016, 07:28 PM
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I have some of the original Glassers. $6 per bullet. At the time they could only be shipped to a PD.. There was a book that came with them, sad to say I lost. One report from a ME in a Ca. officer shooting said the suspect died from a point blank hit from a 410 shotgun. Actually it was from a 38 at 42 feet. According to the book there were 93 Officer involved shootings with the Glassers. 1 survivor.
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[QUOTE=Houlton;139372695]According to the book there were 93 Officer involved shootings with the Glassers. 1 survivor.[/QUOTE]
Houlton, that may be what Glaser wrote or how you think you remember it, but 92 deaths out of 93 shootings? With a handgun?
Sorry, I'm not feeling it. With those "proven" odds, the Glasers would be the round of choice in EVERY handgun in America, particularly LE. Something doesn't sound right.
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12-15-2016, 11:17 PM
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According to the book there were 93 Officer involved shootings with the Glassers. 1 survivor.
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Houlton, that may be what Glaser wrote or how you think you remember it, but 92 deaths out of 93 shootings? With a handgun?
Sorry, I'm not feeling it. With those "proven" odds, the Glasers would be the round of choice in EVERY handgun in America, particularly LE. Something doesn't sound right.
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I think they meant that only one officer survived trying to defend himself using Glaser ammunition.
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12-16-2016, 01:11 AM
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I think they meant that only one officer survived trying to defend himself using Glaser ammunition.
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Possibly. But I interpret what he said is that the booklet came from Glaser with his purchase. Surely Glaser wouldn't print and promote such a poor statistic of their own product.
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12-16-2016, 01:15 AM
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Why would anyone even consider these things for anything other than a novelty?
Perhaps as a collectors item.
Certainly not as a user item.
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12-17-2016, 10:55 AM
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This only applies to the original Glassers. If you can find any blow $20 on a big roast and shoot one in it. I did years ago and I could almost stick my hand through the hole. Around 3" where it hit and just over 4" where it came out. The roast was about 6-8"thick. Wish I had taken pictures.
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12-17-2016, 11:11 AM
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I seem to remember an article by Mas Ayoob published in American Handgunner that agreed with Houlton's observations.
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CORRECTION on my last: The article was by Rex Applegate in the July/August issue of that magazine.
Sorry.
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I have carried both a .380 and .45 auto with the chambered round being a Glaser and the magazine full of ball. I have no problems with the first round firing and working the slide to chamber the next round. My thinking at the time was if a Glaser failed to stop, something with some penetration may be needed. I had a buddy that bought one of the S&W 1937 Brazilian contract revolvers that were imported and sold fairly inexpensively back in the late 1980's as a home defense gun. He had one half moon clip loaded with Glasers as the first three rounds in rotation and another half moon clip loaded with hardball. I thought he made a good choice for home defense.
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Could someone please briefly explain what the major assets of the Glaser safety bullet/slug is suppose to be? I know how they are made and what they contain, but how does CorBon promote them?
What will they do that a .45 hollow point won't do?
Or, what will they not do that a modern handgun hollow point will do?
This is not meant to be an argumentative question, but I'm curious what the allure is. I just watched a youtube where a guy shot a .45 Glaser round into ballistic gel through a single layer of tee shirt and the farthest piece of the casing went 7 1/2 inches. The rat shot only went 3 or 4. Then he put the gel block behind two pieces of drywall fastened a 2x4 width apart and shot through the drywall and some of the shot debris went completely through the ballistic gel. On both shots.
What is the Glaser round supposed to excel at?
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12-21-2016, 04:49 AM
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Quote:
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Could someone please briefly explain what the major assets of the Glaser safety bullet/slug is suppose to be? I know how they are made and what they contain, but how does CorBon promote them?
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The Glaser is supposed to increase effectiveness while minimizing penetration of building materials and reduce ricochets. As you saw quality conventional JHP are better.
It actually does very well at bilking people out of their money.
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12-21-2016, 11:00 PM
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The new Glasser ammo is different from the rounds I have. The old stuff is #12 shot in liquid Teflon pushing 2 grand. For whatever reason the formula was changed. Cannon had a warranty if you shot a person in the torso and they were able to return fire he would buy you the 357 of your choice. ATF made him stop the warranty even though there were no claims.
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