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Old 03-12-2017, 11:34 PM
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I bought 1000 of these locally. Look great, clean, nice brass, shiny jackets, etc. Range results pretty sad. 3 or 4 shots ok and then fliers..... I followed with a mag of Federal, one of Blazer, one of AE. No problems with accuracy. Back to these. Couple ok then fliers...

So I came home and tore a few apart. The bullets are measuring 8.90mm to 8.92mm. Certainly not the full 9.0mm the Federal, Blazer, and AE all measured.

SAAMI spec is 9.030-.076. After the math, that leaves a minimum of 8.954. Not much rifling engagement...

Called U.S. Distributor for this Brazilian made ammo, and explained my issue. No argument, sent UPS label, and promised to refund any unused ammo. Just sent, and awaiting refund.

It was some of the cheapest I found locally, and probably ok for the 90% or so of shooters that don't know poor accuracy or consistency when they see it. It' too easy to blame the short barreled gun or the shooter (like me). Facts don't lie. Ok for plinking, not for competition.

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Old 03-13-2017, 12:05 AM
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9x19mm SAAMI bullet diameter specs are (in inches) is 0.3555-0.0030", in other words, 0.3525-0.3555". I have a new box of Magtech 115 grain FMJ ammo. I pulled and measured two bullets. Both were 0.3545" and well within SAAMI specs.
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Old 03-13-2017, 12:18 AM
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Not my favorite ammo, but it shoots. At least they made it good.
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You probably got a bad batch.

There are several S&W Pro's that use that ammo and have a wall for of trophy's from years of shooting that ammo.
One even holds Speed records with pistols and revolvers with that ammo. (JM)

I have had no problems with the Brazil or Mexican ammo that is cheaper than most US made ammo.
I also use the Mag-Tech loose bullets for reloading and my 9mm JRN are .355" in dia.

Sorry you have ammo that is not working right.
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I'm curious about what instrument you used to measure the bullet diameter that you expressed it in mm rather than inches. And are you sure it is reading correctly? I have a metric 1" (25mm) spindle micrometer, but nothing else metric among my roughly 10 other precision measuring instruments. I know some digital calipers can read out in both inches and mm depending upon the setting selection.

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