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I have the standard 40 grain Quiet ammo from CCI. Stuff is very quiet. Like ballon popping quiet. But I can't find any HP versions. I have a pest problem that I might be forced to deal with and I don't think the round nose is up
To the task. Read an article how some hog hunter uses them to finish off trapped hogs.
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I can't imagine what a hp low velocity 22 would do that you can't do with a solid.

hp ammo requires more velocity to work than is available in the quiet ammo.

There's a reason that quiet ammo doesn't come in hp.
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I can't imagine what a hp low velocity 22 would do that you can't do with a solid.

hp ammo requires more velocity to work than is available in the quiet ammo.

There's a reason that quiet ammo doesn't come in hp.
It does come in hp. Just never see it on the shelves.
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I bought the .22 Quiet LRN for pest.
I wanted the HP but they were not in stock at the time so I got the RN design.

They are very accurate at 25 yards with my Winchester M61 pump with a cheap Tasco 4x scope that is very small.
No need for the huge new scopes and ring set ups they are pushing
at you, now a days.

The design does lack expansion and will over penetrate but it will
do the job on small pest.

If you had a shop with a drill press, you might be able to make a HP
or you could just mess the bullet up?

Here is a picture of a "Boar" that I shot in the back area......
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The LRN bullet works just fine. With a muzzle velocity of only 710 fps I highly doubt you will get expansion from a HP any way.

CCI does make a Quiet-22 Segmented HP round #0970 but I have not seen them in stores. You might find them online but again, I doubt it's necessary.
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The LRN bullet works just fine. With a muzzle velocity of only 710 fps I highly doubt you will get expansion from a HP any way.

CCI does make a Quiet-22 Segmented HP round #0970 but I have not seen them in stores. You might find them online but again, I doubt it's necessary.
That's the one I'm looking for.
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What pests are you looking to rid yourself of?
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What pests are you looking to rid yourself of?
Raccoons. I shot a groundhog last year with .22 Thunderbolts. First shot to neck didn't kill it. Second to head did but it took about .30 seconds.

Last year, I shot a squirrel to put it out of its misery. Eye was hanging out and the flies were already on it. First shot to middle of body from 5 feet. Jumped but not dead. Second to right under armpit and it curled up and was surely dying, but still not dead. Third shot nearly point black to head and it was done.

I'm not a hunter. I have no wish to kill anything. Somebody must be feeding these raccoons because it came right up the the door and started pawing at the screen. I popped it in the butt was a BB gun that was almost out of CO2 and it wandered off. It was only about 6:15, too. Never seen them out that early.
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Aquila super Calibre, shoot squirrels at the bird feeder from my gun room and the wife only hears me racking the 22 pump. They will penetrate through a coffee can at 40 yards.
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Aquila super Calibre, shoot squirrels at the bird feeder from my gun room and the wife only hears me racking the 22 pump. They will penetrate through a coffee can at 40 yards.
I had a few squib's using them in my Marlin 39A. It says on the box not to use them in a rifle...like you I did anyhow.

Only rodent I kill is armadillos. CCI subs or standard velocity thru a suppressed 10/22 is gold.

I've got a few hundred rounds of the CCI Quiet ammo, but it only works in my lever and bolt actions.
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Raccoons. I shot a groundhog last year with .22 Thunderbolts. First shot to neck didn't kill it. Second to head did but it took about .30 seconds.

Last year, I shot a squirrel to put it out of its misery. Eye was hanging out and the flies were already on it. First shot to middle of body from 5 feet. Jumped but not dead. Second to right under armpit and it curled up and was surely dying, but still not dead. Third shot nearly point black to head and it was done.

I'm not a hunter. I have no wish to kill anything. Somebody must be feeding these raccoons because it came right up the the door and started pawing at the screen. I popped it in the butt was a BB gun that was almost out of CO2 and it wandered off. It was only about 6:15, too. Never seen them out that early.
A HP bullet at those speeds will not solve your problems, shot placement will. Like with any animal if you don't hits varmints in a spot that counts they will not die quickly. The trick with the Quiet-22 ammo is headshots if possible. That will work for sure, I know from doing it. Shots to the body without hitting anything important will not kill quickly if at all. Wounding an animal, even varmints is just not right.
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+1 with head shots if possible.

A Lung shot also works as well as a spine shot above the shoulder on a broad side position......
or under the chin if sitting up.

The one in my picture was, under its chin.
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I would be careful of raccoons. They can be very aggressive and dangerous. I barely saved the life of a full size large dog being drowned by one in a pond. They are usually used to people and have no qualms about attacking, plus they are very smart. We tried to trap some, they ate the bait and got out without setting the trap off.
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A HP bullet at those speeds will not solve your problems, shot placement will. Like with any animal if you don't hits varmints in a spot that counts they will not die quickly. The trick with the Quiet-22 ammo is headshots if possible. That will work for sure, I know from doing it. Shots to the body without hitting anything important will not kill quickly if at all. Wounding an animal, even varmints is just not right.
I know a head shot is best. With the groundhog, I was aiming from about 30 yards, but the rifle was zeroed at 100. I held low to estimate but I hit the neck. The squirrel was so far gone that I didn't think a head shot was needed. And to tell the truth, I was a bit squeamish about shooting it in the head from so close. That will never happen again, though. Head shots from now on.

But you're saying the round nose Quiet ammo to the head will have the same effect as the HP Segmented? Might kill the thing but I'd still rather have the added lethality of the HP Segmented.

As for the raccoon, I plan to shoot it from my kitchen window if it does come back. Window is right on the deck where it was. Wouldn't be more than 10 feet.
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The standard 40 grain Quiet ammo works very well!! At 710 fps I would almost guarantee there would be little no no expansion on a soft skinned varmint. IMHO you are much better off with the extra weight of the 40 grains than with a little tiny hole in the lighter bullet.

In most rifles, the Quiet 40 grainer sounds like a pellet rifle - actually in some instances it's less noisy!
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The standard 40 grain Quiet ammo works very well!! At 710 fps I would almost guarantee there would be little no no expansion on a soft skinned varmint. IMHO you are much better off with the extra weight of the 40 grains than with a little tiny hole in the lighter bullet.

In most rifles, the Quiet 40 grainer sounds like a pellet rifle - actually in some instances it's less noisy!
The Segmented HP breaks up into three pieces on impact. It doesn't expand. Is that what makes it more lethal? The box says plinking for the RN and hunting for the Segmented HP.

Stupid question, but would an air rifle firing a .177 cal pellet at 1100 fps be more lethal than the .22 Quiet at 710 fps?
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If you always aim for the head, you'll either have a clean kill or a clean miss regardless of which 22 ammo you use.
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If you always aim for the head, you'll either have a clean kill or a clean miss regardless of which 22 ammo you use.
Agreed. Head shots from now on. Again, I didn't think it would matter the one time I shot the squirrel.

But I can't find any of the Segmented HP's. I have a brick of the RN Quiets. All I want to know is, IF this thing comes back (or for any future necessary pest removals), would the 40 grain RN Quiets do the job? I'd rather not alert the neighbors and the stuff is amazingly quiet. If I shoot this raccoon, even in the head, I want it dead quickly as possible.
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I have used the segmented CCI Quiets on squirrels and find them MUCH better killers when body shots are taken. They pretty much drop like bricks. The segmented concept definitely works in this low power round. I also think they might reduce the chance of a damaging ricochet. Ricochets should, of course, be avoided at all costs.
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My property seems to attract raccoons, and woodchuck. I shot a woodchuck in the chest with my rws model 52, .22 air rifle. Dropped it right there. Shot a raccoon out of a tree with a head shot, that was raiding the wife's bird feeders, it was actually bending over the shepherds hook, to get to the feeders. That was a cz 512 22 mag, and opened up the whole top of the head, obviously, deader than fried chicken. I have shot most of them, with a heavy barreled anschutz 1416 22 lr, using eley force. I aim for the head, or shoulder, have not had a complaint yet. But, it is also a 1250 fps load. Raccoons can be difficult to kill
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Man, I can't find that Segmented Quiet anywhere, even online.
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Yes, the 40gr RN bullet will do the job.

No, no need for a HP bullet because it will not expand at such low velocities.

Small segments will do no better job than the heavier one piece bullet with destroying the brain. In fact the solid bullet will penetrate the skull better than a segmented bullet.

I have used them and the work well without alerting the neighborhood.
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The Segmented HP breaks up into three pieces on impact. It doesn't expand. Is that what makes it more lethal? The box says plinking for the RN and hunting for the Segmented HP.

Stupid question, but would an air rifle firing a .177 cal pellet at 1100 fps be more lethal than the .22 Quiet at 710 fps?
I'd say just as lethal and possibly more than the low velocity .22's. I have an old M48 RWS pellet rifle that is super accurate up to 35-40 yds and will sink a pellet out of sight in a piece of hard oak at 25 yds. There are also many styles of pellets out there from flat, domed, pointed and hollow points.
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To revive an old thread, I bought some of these 40 grain solids at 710 FPS. I have been astounded by how they perform. My head starts hurting whenever I read on here about the caliber debates, light bullets traveling fast, heavy bullets traveling slow, etc.

I shot a possum in the side of the head between the ear and the eye and he dropped like he was shot with a 30.06. We have been having trouble with raiding our feed bins and the round blew out the other side of his head and left a quarter size hole. I don’t know if the slow moving round is tumbling, or the lead is soft and doing a great deal of damage, or what is going on.

And in a rifle, the rounds are quieter than my pellet rifle.
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There are several power/velocity options between the CCI and Aguila quiet .22LR ammo.

My preference is for Aguila Super-Colibri out of a 16" bbl small rifle/carbine. Head shots _and_ thoracic cavity shots are deadly on squirrels out to 25 yards. I would limit to head shots on any bigger varmints.

Out of a 16" bbl, they are quieter than any air gun I have used that might have hte beef to kill a squirrel.
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There are several power/velocity options between the CCI and Aguila quiet .22LR ammo.

My preference is for Aguila Super-Colibri out of a 16" bbl small rifle/carbine. Head shots _and_ thoracic cavity shots are deadly on squirrels out to 25 yards. I would limit to head shots on any bigger varmints.

Out of a 16" bbl, they are quieter than any air gun I have used that might have hte beef to kill a squirrel.
Have you tried the CCI Quiet-22 round #0960 yet? If you do I think you might change your mind. I was also a fan of the Aquila Super-Colibri ammo before I shot the CCI #0960 round.
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Man, I can't find that Segmented Quiet anywhere, even online.
I ordered some from Midway yesterday. I know it’s two years later, but if you are still interested Midway has it.
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I have used CCI CB Longs as pest ammo around the house for years. I had a rifle sighted in for 12yds with them. The would literally shoot one hole at that range. I've shot coon out with them. Requires head shot on coon. I used them with good results on Squirrel too.
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Once a rogue coon was getting in the trash. I took it out with a Bersa 22 pistol by taking my shoes off and sneaking up behind it almost point blank while it was trashing the trash. Rely on your skills not the particular bullet.
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My local guy ordered them for me. I have 500 of them now. More than I’ll ever need. Thanks.
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Have you tried the CCI Quiet-22 round #0960 yet? If you do I think you might change your mind. I was also a fan of the Aquila Super-Colibri ammo before I shot the CCI #0960 round.
Nope. Will try it out. What is the difference, performance-wise?
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per post #22;

I will be giving my copper Quiet HP......... "Improved tip"
its final test if any pest want to come out in the Nevada "Fall" chilling air?

I have not seen any quail or four legged vermin in several days.
The weather people are even mentioning that SNOW might drop as low as 5,000 feet !!

I will do a final accuracy test with the HP and LRN bullets before winter hits, if possible.
It has been a while since I took the little rifles to the range.

Last trip out took a long time to get both to come to a POA and
getting a sub-minute group was on and off...........
Not a good thing for small targets.

850fps might help but it is not going to happen with these Quiet loads.
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I got a box of the segmented Quiet rounds, but haven't had the opportunity to test them. I fired the Quiets in my short barreled 10-22, but the report didn't seem all that "quiet" to me. YMMV
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One quiet load I have used is the Remington C-Bee. 38 grain HP @710 fps.
Not overly accurate out of my rifles, but very accurate out of my stainless Single Six. Bottom group here:

Not exactly a "quiet" load as it gets 1000 fps, but it doesn't have that supersonic crack, is the RWS Subsonic HP.
It has a huge HP cavity, filled up with wax, and those puppies do expand.
They put the wallop on small game.
Very accurate out of all my rifles, and at times you can get bricks for $24.
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Three years ago I tested this ammo in a Marlin and Winchester rifle to see how they would preform.
Yes they are on the low side of making noise but........

I had trouble finding a steady diet of accuracy in my two rifles over the lead RN brand, plus the fact that they did not expand at the low fps, that I was getting.
I even enlarged the HP area, to the point of almost separating the bullets petals, without get a better working load, that made me a happy camper.

It may work in "Your" weapons but I still have two boxes for the kids to waste on paper, if we get to go shooting.
So far the standard "Long" LRN, is the most accurate, low noise round that works in my rifles.

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I bought these to use on yard varmint.

I shot them into a 500 page phone book at ~6ft.

Out of the Ruger 10/22 it sounded like a CO2 pellet gun, very quiet. Almost went all the way thru.

From a Ruger 22/45 it was louder & even more from the DW 22-HV

They did not eject so follow-up shots would be slow from an auto.

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L= 18" 10/22 auto
M= 5.5" 22/45 auto
R= 6" DW revolver



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A note on the cci "Quiet" type ammo.

I have tried the HP and the LRN ammo..........
and have even tried to improve the shape and performance of this slow load.......
but I will just say that I have given up on this ammo do to the fact that it will.............
Ricochet and you have no control of this bullet after it leaves the barrel.

Make sure you have a good LARGE backup area for this round, for every ones safety.
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