Smith & Wesson Forum

Go Back   Smith & Wesson Forum > Ammunition-Gunsmithing > Ammo

Notices

Ammo All Ammo Discussions Go Here


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 07-22-2017, 10:54 PM
ImDrRichard's Avatar
ImDrRichard ImDrRichard is offline
Member
Cowboy Loads? Cowboy Loads? Cowboy Loads? Cowboy Loads? Cowboy Loads?  
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: NYS
Posts: 833
Likes: 1,941
Liked 1,472 Times in 407 Posts
Default Cowboy Loads?

Hi -

I'm fairly new to .44 magnum and .44 special rounds. I've come across different types of ammo labeled "cowboy" loads.

Can someone please educate me and tell me if these loads are good for target practice (in the case of .44 special) and if so, recommend me some brands and weights/loads?

Thanks very much

Rich
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 07-22-2017, 11:00 PM
rwsmith's Avatar
rwsmith rwsmith is offline
Member
Cowboy Loads? Cowboy Loads? Cowboy Loads? Cowboy Loads? Cowboy Loads?  
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: (outside) Charleston, SC
Posts: 30,976
Likes: 41,634
Liked 29,229 Times in 13,816 Posts
Default I don't do 'cowboy shooting', but...

They SHOULD be good target rounds. Cowboy loads are generally heavy slugs with very low recoil to allow quick and accurate follow up shots in the competitions.
__________________
"He was kinda funny lookin'"
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #3  
Old 07-22-2017, 11:22 PM
THE PILGRIM's Avatar
THE PILGRIM THE PILGRIM is online now
Member
Cowboy Loads? Cowboy Loads? Cowboy Loads? Cowboy Loads? Cowboy Loads?  
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: ALBUQUERQUE, NM
Posts: 13,885
Likes: 8,089
Liked 25,405 Times in 8,542 Posts
Default

Good all round ammo!
Usually cast bullets, modest load and recoil.
I have some newer 44 Specials, and I have some vintage ones.
No need to stress test the older guns!
__________________
NRA LIFE MEMBER
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 07-22-2017, 11:22 PM
38SPL HV's Avatar
38SPL HV 38SPL HV is offline
Member
Cowboy Loads? Cowboy Loads? Cowboy Loads? Cowboy Loads? Cowboy Loads?  
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Northern Nevada
Posts: 1,186
Likes: 957
Liked 949 Times in 419 Posts
Default

Good target rounds but I prefer a bit more velocity, at least 1,000 fps with 240 gr cast bullets and above.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 07-23-2017, 12:37 AM
CTG_COLLECTOR CTG_COLLECTOR is offline
Member
Cowboy Loads? Cowboy Loads? Cowboy Loads? Cowboy Loads? Cowboy Loads?  
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 620
Likes: 79
Liked 282 Times in 164 Posts
Default

A lot of companies offer "Cowboy" loads, But IMO they should just call them low recoil target loads because anyone who shoots cowboy action events like SASS will be loading their own ammo. Way too expensive to be buying quality "cowboy" ammo if one shoots on a regular basis.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #6  
Old 07-23-2017, 02:11 AM
Nevada Ed's Avatar
Nevada Ed Nevada Ed is online now
US Veteran
Cowboy Loads? Cowboy Loads? Cowboy Loads? Cowboy Loads? Cowboy Loads?  
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Reno Nv
Posts: 13,400
Likes: 3,188
Liked 12,758 Times in 5,684 Posts
Default

A lot of shooters like the light 200 gr LFP to the larger 240 gr LFP
for loads in the 700 to 850 fps for Cowboy action shooting.

Revolver, rifles and shotguns are used in the sport and many
try to use the same ammo for their pistols and rifles to make
things easier in the reloading room.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #7  
Old 07-23-2017, 07:24 PM
Nevada Ed's Avatar
Nevada Ed Nevada Ed is online now
US Veteran
Cowboy Loads? Cowboy Loads? Cowboy Loads? Cowboy Loads? Cowboy Loads?  
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Reno Nv
Posts: 13,400
Likes: 3,188
Liked 12,758 Times in 5,684 Posts
Default

General notes;

Cap & Ball percussion cal. 36 up to 45 may be used.
Smokeless: cal. 32 up to 45 may be used.

The 32 center fire and .36 Ball may not have enough energy for all reactive 16x16 targets.
They are however set up to fall with a center hit from a 38 special 158gr factory ammo loading.

Minimum fps is 400 up to 1,000 for revolvers or a minimum Power Factor of 60. ( Rifles 1,400fps )

The 200gr .44 is fine at the starting 400fps with a PF of 80.
The 240gr at 400 has a power factor of 96............ for those that reload their ammo, for minimum recoil.

A factory 200gr at 700fps has a PF of 140.

Have fun.

Ps;
If this is too expensive, you might look into .............
fast draw with wax bullets.
Not for most but it can get addicting.

Last edited by Nevada Ed; 07-23-2017 at 07:29 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 07-24-2017, 11:35 AM
DWalt's Avatar
DWalt DWalt is online now
Member
Cowboy Loads? Cowboy Loads? Cowboy Loads? Cowboy Loads? Cowboy Loads?  
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: South Texas & San Antonio
Posts: 33,588
Likes: 239
Liked 29,097 Times in 14,068 Posts
Default

Back to basics, "Cowboy" loads are intended for use in Cowboy Action Shooting (CAS) events where the idea is to knock over steel targets at relatively close range. It's a timed game where the shortest time to knock down the targets wins. Therefore rapid recovery between shots is desirable, and that requires minimal recoil. Most CAS shooters reload their own ammunition as they shoot a lot of it. CAS rules specify maximum permissible muzzle velocities for revolver and rifle loads, but most shooters go as low as they can, consistent with the ability to knock down targets. Great grouping performance is not essential as the targets are fairly large and easy to hit.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #9  
Old 07-24-2017, 02:11 PM
ImDrRichard's Avatar
ImDrRichard ImDrRichard is offline
Member
Cowboy Loads? Cowboy Loads? Cowboy Loads? Cowboy Loads? Cowboy Loads?  
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: NYS
Posts: 833
Likes: 1,941
Liked 1,472 Times in 407 Posts
Default

Thanks everyone!
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 07-24-2017, 02:49 PM
rwsmith's Avatar
rwsmith rwsmith is offline
Member
Cowboy Loads? Cowboy Loads? Cowboy Loads? Cowboy Loads? Cowboy Loads?  
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: (outside) Charleston, SC
Posts: 30,976
Likes: 41,634
Liked 29,229 Times in 13,816 Posts
Default Which brands....

Can someone please educate me and tell me if these loads are good for target practice (in the case of .44 special) and if so, recommend me some brands and weights/loads?

I'd start with the cheapest I could find.
__________________
"He was kinda funny lookin'"
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
.41 Mag Cowboy Loads MarkAlt Ammo 20 10-28-2014 09:33 AM
Cowboy loads smithguy47 S&W Revolvers: 1980 to the Present 9 05-05-2013 10:46 PM
Are Cowboy Action Loads lighter in recoil RocketRyan Ammo 12 08-08-2011 12:19 AM
Are cowboy action loads really that dirty? aterry33 Ammo 12 05-19-2010 07:34 PM
296 vs cowboy loads starbuck S&W Revolvers: 1980 to the Present 2 04-13-2009 07:18 AM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3
smith-wessonforum.com tested by Norton Internet Security smith-wessonforum.com tested by McAfee Internet Security

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:27 PM.


Smith-WessonForum.com is not affiliated with Smith & Wesson Holding Corporation (NASDAQ Global Select: SWHC)