New to me Federal HST 150gr Micro JHP. Need more data ???????

dben002 · #1 04-09-2018, 09:02 AM

Supposedly designed for use in sub-compact handguns...

Anyone know any information on this round ?

Thanks.....

Protected One · #2 04-09-2018, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by dben002

Supposedly designed for use in sub-compact handguns...

Anyone know any information on this round ?

Thanks.....

I first became aware of this round last year about this time.
On the YouTube channel of tnoutdoors9 he does a gel test. comparing it to the 147gr HST. Penetration and expansion were virtually the same, BUT...there was noticeably less recoil with the 150gr, and less muzzle flash. To me - that makes it the winner!

I found some at Walmart, and have been carrying it in my Shield since June 2017.

dben002 · #3 04-09-2018, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Protected One

I first became aware of this round last year about this time.
On the YouTube channel of tnoutdoors9 he does a gel test. comparing it to the 147gr HST. Penetration and expansion were virtually the same, BUT...there was noticeably less recoil with the 150gr, and less muzzle flash. To me - that makes it the winner!

I found some at Walmart, and have been carrying it in my Shield since June 2017.

Appreciate that information......I have always used the 124 gr HST......

thomasinaz · #4 04-09-2018, 09:34 AM

It's advertised by Federal as a 900 FPS round. Tnoutdoors9 has a review on Youtube with lots of good info. The TN guy got close to the advertised bullet speed out of his Glock 43.

ETA:Protected One types faster than me.

dben002 · #5 04-09-2018, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by thomasinaz

It's advertised by Federal as a 900 FPS round. Tnoutdoors9 has a review on Youtube with lots of good info. The TN guy got close to the advertised bullet speed out of his Glock 43.

I'm just kinda confused...

150gr 900 fps, less recoil
124gr 1100 fps, more recoil....

Guess I don't understand all I don;t know about ballistics ...
How a 150gr does that against a 124gr or a 147gr

ContinentalOp · #6 04-09-2018, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by dben002

I'm just kinda confused...

150gr 900 fps, less recoil
124gr 1100 fps, more recoil....

Guess I don't understand all I don;t know about ballistics ...
How a 150gr does that against a 124gr or a 147gr

It may be more of a difference in the quality of the recoil, if that makes sense. Generally speaking, given the same caliber, a heavier, slower bullet will accelerate more slowly out of a given barrel length than a lighter, faster bullet out of the same barrel. For every action there is an equal, but opposite, reaction. That means a gun firing the heavier, slower bullet will also accelerate more slowly. The result is the heavier, slower bullet's recoil will feel like more of a push while the lighter, faster bullet's recoil will feel like more of a snap. Generally speaking. Different people may perceive felt recoil differently. This is also assuming the overall energy difference between each bullet weight is neglible.

Apologies if that doesn't answer your question.

pharmer · #7 04-09-2018, 06:52 PM

I'm prettu sure the OP was asking about the "new" 150 gr .38 spl load that looks like a backward wadcutter. The responses are mostly 9mm info for the various HST loads. At least that's how I mis-read it. Joe

ContinentalOp · #8 04-09-2018, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by pharmer

I'm prettu sure the OP was asking about the "new" 150 gr .38 spl load that looks like a backward wadcutter. The responses are mostly 9mm info for the various HST loads. At least that's how I mis-read it. Joe

No. The .38 Special HST is a 130gr +P load. The 150gr loading is designed for compact and subcompact 9mm.

scott53 · #9 04-09-2018, 07:29 PM

Federal HST Micro 9 mm is 150 grain. HST Micro .38 Spl. Is 130 grain. I've tested both myself in 10% ballistic geletain with 4 layers of denim. Pistols used we're Shield and 340 respectively. Both calibers performed as advertised. They are my preferred carry ammo in each platform. Locally Walmart has the best prices on both.

pharmer · #10 04-09-2018, 09:11 PM

You guys are sharp, gotta pay better attention. Joe

dben002 · #11 04-09-2018, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ContinentalOp

It may be more of a difference in the quality of the recoil, if that makes sense. Generally speaking, given the same caliber, a heavier, slower bullet will accelerate more slowly out of a given barrel length than a lighter, faster bullet out of the same barrel. For every action there is an equal, but opposite, reaction. That means a gun firing the heavier, slower bullet will also accelerate more slowly. The result is the heavier, slower bullet's recoil will feel like more of a push while the lighter, faster bullet's recoil will feel like more of a snap. Generally speaking. Different people may perceive felt recoil differently. This is also assuming the overall energy difference between each bullet weight is neglible.

Apologies if that doesn't answer your question.

Makes a lot of sense to me and I appreciate that answer.

ranvette · #12 05-03-2018, 08:41 PM

I bought some for my shield but i am having second thoughts.I saw one recent test the 150 HST did not do good at all in.The reason being it was running way to slow from a shield.It was in the low 810 or 20s fps.And it will not expand right at that speed.My plan is to chrono it from my gun and see just what it does.So right now i am loaded with 147 +p HST.From what i can tell ! If the 150 cant stay above 870fps its no good.One thing is for sure the 147+p has no problem staying above 970 fps out of a shield