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Old 01-13-2020, 08:24 PM
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Here is a photo of a Remington 38 Spl +P 158 gr LSWCHP round from one of two boxes recently purchased. Notice the excellent and pronounced firm roll crimp...rivals Buffalo Boreís crimp. Rounds in second box were crimped in same fashion.

Now that is a crimp! Bullets are sure to stay put in your S&W J frame Airweights and LCR! Remington gets it - great job!
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Geeeeze;

to me looking at the case, that is an over crimp !!


So they are a little better than your just bought Winchester "FBI"
+P loads..... huh ?

Glad they got it right.

Have fun.
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Take a look at Buffalo Bore 38 Spl std and +P 158 gr lhp loadings, they appear excessive but such firm crimps, as you know, are needed in the lighter weight revolvers. I’m willing to bet that sales of lightweight 38/357s (S&W and Ruger) dwarf sales of larger frame revolvers in these calibers - Remington got it right with firmly crimping their rounds for lightweight firearms.
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But how is the performance of the Remington 38 Spl +P 158 gr LSWCHP?
Did you chrono it? If so, what barrel lengths and what were the speeds?
I know you're reporting on the crimp, but performance is my interest.
Looking forward to any chrono report.
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Old 01-13-2020, 10:34 PM
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But how is the performance of the Remington 38 Spl +P 158 gr LSWCHP?
Did you chrono it? If so, what barrel lengths and what were the speeds?
I know you're reporting on the crimp, but performance is my interest.
Looking forward to any chrono report.
Paul Harrell has at least one good video on it, and likes it for snubbies.
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But how is the performance of the Remington 38 Spl +P 158 gr LSWCHP?
Did you chrono it? If so, what barrel lengths and what were the speeds?
I know you're reporting on the crimp, but performance is my interest.
Looking forward to any chrono report.
There is plenty of chronograph info on this cartridge, and I’m sure that there is negligible lot to lot variances. These differences are moot in my opinion when tested in a factory controlled environment. Of course differences from revolver to revolver (ie cylinder gap), temperature, altitude, which from my experience, can drive differences in velocities. I’ve gotten higher velocities in hot summer vs those obtained in the cold for instance. However, for all practical purposes this round has not changed much in terms of velocity over the years...Remington, Winchester and Federal have well defined specifications and controlled environments when testing these and their other cartridges.

There is the skeptic in everyone and I respect that, and when things warm up a bit and when I have some reloads to chronograph, I’ll take these along.

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Now that is a crimp!


What do you think about the crimp on these .41 Magums?
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What crimp?
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Exactly!!!
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Those Remington bullets look like they have been heavily crimped with a Lee FCD.
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Those Remington bullets look like they have been heavily crimped with a Lee FCD.
This is how they came out of the box, crimped by Remington.

Next skeptic...

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What do you think about the crimp on these .41 Magums?
Iíve shot and loaded 41 Magnums for years. Only used lead Keith type SWCs and gave them a firm crimp in their crimp grooves. Those bullets you show have cannelures and a roll crimp should be applied to those.
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Old 01-14-2020, 02:28 AM
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This is how they came out of the box, crimped by Remington.

Next skeptic...
I never implied that they were not. I said it looks like they were heavily crimped by a FCD.
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Yes, those hummers were really crimped well for the Airweight crowd! Even Remington’s standard velocity 38 Spl 158 gr rnl lead are solidly crimped.
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Iíve shot and loaded 41 Magnums for years. Only used lead Keith type SWCs and gave them a firm crimp in their crimp grooves. Those bullets you show have cannelures and a roll crimp should be applied to those.
They were new LAX ammo. I had a friend re-seat and crimp all 250 of them.
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