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Remington 38 Special Hi-Speed
Picked up an empty box for Remington 38 Special Hi-Speed which is the first 38-44 box I've come across. The flap is stamped D05045 on the inside which I haven't been able to decipher. I know the box is from 1946-1960.
Figured this would be a good time to take model it with my HD's and OD.
Click for a larger view.
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Awesome pictures!!! Thanks for sharing!!!
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Very cool. First time ever heard of "Hi-Speed".
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“Hi-Speed” rounds were high intensity 38 Spl rounds which were developed to improve the penetrative capabilities and stopping power of the 38 Spl in the 1930s. S&W developed its “Heavy Duty” 38 Spl revolver for the high intensity load. The Heavy Duty platform was based on the larger 44 S&W frame (“N” frame)...the cartridge became known as the 38-44.
Original 38-44 specifications had a 158 gr RNL clocking at 1,125 FPS from 6 inch factory barrels. Elmer Keith had loaded the 38-44 to even higher intensities/pressures using his 358429 SWC bullet...it led to the development of the 357 Magnum.
The term 38-44 was later designated 38 Spl “Hi-Speed” by Remington, Winchester as “Super X” and Western “Super Speed.” These rounds were discontinued in the early 1970s and replaced by lower velocity +P loadings.
I reload the 38-44 round for my Ruger Blackhawk.
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“Hi-Speed” rounds were high intensity 38 Spl rounds which were developed to improve the penetrative capabilities and stopping power of the 38 Spl in the 1930s. S&W developed its “Heavy Duty” 38 Spl revolver for the high intensity load. The Heavy Duty platform was based on the larger 44 S&W frame (“N” frame)...the cartridge became known as the 38-44.
Original 38-44 specifications had a 158 gr RNL clocking at 1,125 FPS from 6 inch factory barrels. Elmer Keith had loaded the 38-44 to even higher intensities/pressures using his 358429 SWC bullet...it led to the development of the 357 Magnum.
The term 38-44 was later designated 38 Spl “Hi-Speed” by Remington, Winchester as “Super X” and Western “Super Speed.” These rounds were discontinued in the early 1970s and replaced by lower velocity +P loadings.
I reload the 38-44 round for my Ruger Blackhawk.
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+1 Sir!!! fully explained, very nice and didactic illustration!!!...
RR
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For those that have a weapon with a frame heavy enough for this load as well as the 110gr "Treasery Load"..............
in a 6" barrel, these loads can easily be matched/duplicated with Unique powder.
In my 357 6", the 110 JHP loaded in a 38 special case will cross my chrony at 1305 fps +/-.
The 38 cased 125gr JHP Super-Vel load with Unique powder will do 1210fps.
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