Today I located some Fiocchi 22LR at my local farmers co-op. I’ve never bought any at this store but have at another in an adjacent county.

Mind you I’m not a kid and it’s obvious with a white beard and almost white hair. Anyway the girl checking me out said she needed to have my drivers license which is normal so to confirm age. The strange thing was she wanted my phone number and entered it plus all of my personal data in the computer. I told her I didn’t want to be on their junk mail list and she said it wasn’t for mailings but said she’s required to collect my personal information or she couldn’t sell ammo to me. Ok, I went ahead with the transaction but then thought this isn’t right. There’s no law, either state or federal, that requires ones personal data. This is an invasion of my privacy!

I wound up getting the manager and informed him I wanted my data deleted. He never would say that it was company policy or law. In the end I informed him there were no laws requiring this information and he was invading my privacy. I do not want my personal data collected in anyone’s data base that isn’t entitled to it by law. It’s simply no ones business.

All of my personal data was then deleted.

Anyone have a similar experience when buying ammo.

Perhaps...

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I see dead people

I just think if this was your first time you probably don't get out much....

I reload so I only buy 22’s and usually buy in bulk. I buy bulk packs of Federal when they’re available from my local Walmart and have never been asked or for that matter at any of my local gun stores.

Can't be a state law I live in middle Tennessee and have never been asked to even show my ID even at Walmart where they are getting more restrictive on what they sell every day.

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Went to the Tractored Supply store, forgot what I bought. But then they started to ask me about my information. I got very assertive and said "Do I need to give you this information for the purchase?", and the clerk said no, and we went straight to payment.

They also do this at all of the Harbor Freight Stores in my area. I just tell them I don't want to give them my phone number and they say ok and go on.

I just give them Dial-a-Prayer or Executive Escorts...depending on my mood.

Never heard of that for ammo anywhere I have lived.

That would be the LAST time I'd buy ammo there!! Quite honestly - I'd have left the ammo and walked out!

The restaurant I frequent has been collecting names and numbers for the past few weeks to aid with contact tracing in the event of a covid case. At first I was a bit upset but since I wasn't being singled out AND I wanted a meal I complied. The food is good there, so I go.

If I wanted ammo they'd get my number--599 99 nevermind.

We all know stores want phone numbers to generate a mailing list. When I’m asked for just my phone number I tell them I don’t have a phone and I live under a bridge.

This time she wouldn’t sell to me if I didn’t provide the full info.

It’s been a few years but remember back when we had to sign for ammo?

There’s just too much information on all of us out there. Time to stop it.

Simple answer: the girl cashier found you irresistible and wants to have a relationship with you. If you decline, with the personal information it will be easy to stalk you.

To buy at the Co-op in my home town you had to be a member. Maybe they wanted to apply it to your account.

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Hahahaha!!! 25 year old cashier and 72 year old customer, very funny!!! I don’t think she could accuse me or wealth the way I dress. Pretty funny!

I have to ask, did you get the ammo? Harbor Freight asks for the phone number here and probably some other stores. I refuse to give out my email, I get enough junk.

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I did get the ammo.

This wasn’t for mailouts. The clerk said they don’t send out junk mail.

I've had that discussion at many retail spaces and professional offices over social security number, telephone number and email address during a cash transaction, also the cashier wanting to not only see my driver's license, but photo-copy it. When I bought my first cell phone about 15 years ago, the Verizon guy wanted all of that. When I demurred, he said he would not sell me a phone. I told him if he persisted, I'd call the Virginia Consumer Affairs Department of the Attorney General's office and he wouldn't be doing business in Virginia because he'd lose his license, then quoted the Virginia law prohibiting using that data for non bank/IRS/state tax documents
I got my phone with him putting 999999... to fill in the spaces on his computer.
As far as I can remember, all of the schlubs trying to do this to me were under thirty.

They used to ask for your phone # when you bought batteries at Radio Shack.

The last time I tried to do business with radio shack the clerk refused to sell to me unless I provided my phone number. I had a conversation with the manager then walked out.

I tell them 910-555-1212.
Girl put it in, and 40 different lines popped up on her screen. I lol'd.
Then I explained it to her, she was confused.

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when asked I give them my old land line number which I no longer have

Similar occurrence at a Weiss supermarket liquor store in NJ,
58 years old, clerk asked for DL, I thought I was getting ID'd.

he starts to pick up one of those handheld bar code readers and I asked what he was doing and told him forget the sale and I grabbed my license back.
This information will inevitably made accessible to everyone to include all levels of government and attorneys to be used against you should it be necessary just like the collection of DNA.

BassPro always asks for a phone number. When I tell them I would rather not they say no problem and enter a 555 number for me. They must get a lot of people who refuse.

867-5309? Wish they'd included an area code...

I'm one of them that never let anyone swipe my DL into a computer. Not stores, doctors office, nowhere. I never give my email address either. I figure it's none of their business and not necessary. As far as phone numbers, I give them numbers, just numbers. I always keep the hotel key cards too and destroy them when I get home. There's a lot of info on them also.

I get asked for a phone # or e-mail address at checkouts all the time. I tell them I don't give it out. If they ask why I tell them I don't need to explain myself to them.

If that's not enough, the transaction is aborted.

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I can't believe anyone bothers to get upset about this "we need your information" policy so common to retail stores these days. When asked for my info, I just give them a name and phone number -- not MY name and phone number, mind you, but they don't know that. No confrontation with the salesgirl, no raised blood pressure on my part, no subsequent flood of junk snail-and-e-mail.

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If you always pay with cash, that may work. Use a credit card and it's pretty obvious what your name is.

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Jim

When I bought ammo at Walmart in the past, they would ask if it was for a handgun or a long gun. I believe the GCA of 1968 requires you to be at least 18 to purchase rifle/shotgun ammo and 21 to purchase handgun ammo.

It’s obvious I’m well over 21, but their computerized register required the clerk to verify and enter my DOB. I’m sure corporate doesn’t trust the clerks and does this to prevent them from inadvertently violating the law.

They never asked me for a phone number. It could be a State requirement, or it could just be store policy. Either way, it doesn’t really matter.

Privacy doesn’t exist anymore, unless you’re totally off the grid. If you’re paying with a credit/debt card, they know more about you than you do! Same hold true if you’re using a shoppers rewards card. If you’re carrying a cell phone, they know where you are and they know where you’ve been! Then there’s NSA surveillance...

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Tandy Leather asked for addresses and phone numbers every time, back in the day, painstakingly entering them on a three layer carbon form. I always wondered what they did with the data? One time an old country boy gave his address as “Mommytown.” Since I speak fluent redneck I understood that he meant “Miamitown.” The poor clerk did not understand and kept making him repeat it. The country boy was getting frustrated and kept saying, “MOMMYtown!” louder and louder. Finally he said, “MOMMY -TOWN! Just like, “MOMMY!” Of course this did not help the clerk at all.

Stopped shopping there. Problem solved.

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I invest in Lead and Copper!

Face it, Dude, You are a "Chick Magnet".

Years ago I was checking out at a Krogers and was explaining to the checkout card why I was not interested in a loyalty card. She leaned across the checkout stand and told me "You don't have to use your real name".

If one of you live at 4545 Kimber Lane and wonder why you keep getting so much junk mail for John Moses Browning, my bad.

Well I am a firm believer in two of everything. Two email addresses. One for financial accounts. Another for everything else. So if this forum gets hacked, they don't get the email address I use for my bank.

Two phone #'s. The second is a Google Voice number. Same thing.

Not to drift or hijack, but have you got that escort number handy???

867-5309---let see if anyone know this number??

While in "town" a few weeks ago for dinner I wandered into Bigfoot Bud Shop which is right next to the local watering hole. Bigfoot is one of the 3 pot shops in my tiny local town---6 country miles from home. Inside the shop was a nice lobby area similar to a doctor or dentist office with furniture and magazines. There is another door and a small window. I was bent down looking into the window when it opened. I was asked for ID and chuckled---no hair and white beard should tell anyone I am over 21. I just was curious what all the hoopla is all about and wanted to see what the "store bought" pot experience is all about. They wanted to scan my drivers license. I think NOT A CHANCE was my response. Who knows where that info might end up and on what list? Certainly would not want to find out next time I am picking up a new toy from my FFL. Guess it will have to remain a mystery to me what goes on behind the closed doors of a legal pot shop.

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Two longs and a short. When I was a kid on the farm.

You guys are really funny!

Dude, how did you know my name. No joke, Dude is the first 4 letters of my last name. Every adult male in my family has been known as Dude for several generations.

As to chick magnet, the only chick I care to attract is my wife. Honestly at this age, daddy body and all, I'm not sure if I could attract a Chick-Fil-A sandwich.

Anytime I've done a loyalty card or register for something like Facebook, which I hate, I use bogus information. I lie about my age and what I do and address. On Facebook I put I'm a tattoo inspector in South Beach Fl and attended Possum Trott High school in Possum Trott Kentucky.

What I need to do is memorize a phone number like a mortuary and the address for it.

.38SuperMan,

You are getting worked up over nothing. It sounds like you have not brought ammunition for a long time.

As previously comment rifle ammunition and pistol ammunition have different age requirements to be legally purchased. Cabelas and a Farm Store I buy a lot of ammunition from both have a computer program that requires numbers in the date of birth to be entered for the transaction to be completed. Getting all worked up and busting your chest buttons and giving the poor lady at the checkout a hard time isn’t going to change the fact that numbers for the date of birth and a telephone number have to be entered into the computer cash register.

On-line purchases of ammunition require d.o.b. and telephone number to be entered to complete the transaction.

I am not aware of any Federal or Kansas State Law that requires me to give a truthful answer for my d.o.b. and telephone number so I give one I make up.* I have not been asked for my telephone number but if so I would do the same thing. With the current ammunition shortage I certainly would not let that question stop me from buying ammunition.

Heck if you want to worry about your identity being collected don’t shop at a big store like Walmart. Not only do they know your personal information such as address, d.o.b., race, sex but they also have a photograph of you. Think about why they have cameras at every register.

*disclaimer - Other States have laws that require truthful answer to d.o.b. to buy ammunition. Kansas isn’t one of them.

They might get a phone no. and other personal info but that doesn't necessarily mean it's mine. *s*

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I've got like 5 email addresses and a couple of phone numbers and I have no problem giving them to store clerks when I'm in a store that I like. If I get email that I don't want then I unsubscribe.

Let me think..........I do have a Texas driver's license, a Texas license to carry a handgun, I spent a couple of decades in the Navy Reserve, I worked for the FDIC for 13 years, I get 4 government checks a month presently, I have two ATF "registered"/taxed devices, I buy hunting licenses annually even if I don't get to hunt, I definitely have several bank accounts in two different banks, never mind a retirement account or two that you KNOW the Feds know about, I forget exactly how many credit cards I have, or how many loans and mortgages I have had, I have two registered motor vehicles with a Texas TollTag on each, I've been licensed to practice pharmacy in two states and law in five states, plus some Federal bar admissions, the Feds take care of my medical insurance completely as a Navy retiree, and nobody on the planet except my late, lamented parents and my liberal leaning twin brother have EVER, as in NEVER, NOT EVER, seen my Social Security card. So, except for the latter item which I have never shown to anyone but I have used that number countless times, why do I care who has my name in their database?

Seriously, how can I hide? So, you want my name and address (the address being of public record as well now that all of the real estate records are on line) and contact information? No problem.

Where do I sign?

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Come and take it!!

Ok I know a lot of information about each of us is public record but the thing that irritates me was the clerk wasn’t going to sell to me unless I gave the info despite the fact there are no laws either local, state or federal that requires that. It was simply none of their business.

It happens a lot and at most retailers now my forum friend. Different times. I have yet to have occasion where I tell them no thanks, they repeat it once, I say no thanks, they repeat it again, and I say no thanks, and the light bulb goes off and they just enter anything into it. I also tell them I do not have email; which gets some strange looks.

Recently bought a new vehicle. Wasn't sure what I wanted, didn't really like anything more than another; was really indifferent towards the process. I had a new (at the time, few years old when I got rid of it...4 years old?) GMC Sierra and it was OK.

I understand everyone is just doing the best they can, but I stopped into the Audi dealership as one possible choice. Sales rep. was very 'cheesy'. That is the technical term. They of course want to be your best bud, grab a beer, and will promise the world. Ok, that's fine. I was just kinda browsing and the person asked me: my name, my occupation, budget, what I liked, how I spend my free time...I 'get it' that they are qualifying a sale and trying to establish rapport, but I was very upfront that my wife and I were just browsing as I hadn't seen new models in person. The sales rep. was persistent, which is good, but I reiterated that, really, I am just getting a sense of what I want, and they dived into the personal questions again and again... and so forth. I finally said 'time out', let's step back a moment. I am being upfront that I am just browsing and it is too early in the sales cycle to be 'best friends'. The reaction...well it was something. No issues the rest of the time. Also, it was a hard pass on the Audi.

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Rather be outdoors

In New Jersey you need a special I.D. Card to purchase ammo. To get the card you must submit references and fingerprints. Then when you go to the store in New Jersey they ask to see your card and record your name, address and I.D. number in a written book.

If you buy ammo online for shipment to your home, the sellers who want to comply with New Jersey law ask for you to send a copy of your I.D. card before they ship to your home. My Card is on file at several of the big online sellers and my purchases sail through.

There is talk in the Legislature of requiring online ammo purchases to be sent to a licensed ammo seller who will then transfer the ammo to you after seeing your I.D. card.

My local FFL said he will not become a drop box for ammo sales.

After reading the tea leaves I stocked up on all my ammo calibers in January/February of 2020, right before the Covid panic hit.

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Vote Responsibly

I’m sure NJ law has stopped a lot of crime and enabled tracing bullets to the bad guy. What is in their m SS assuming they have minds. I’m so happ I don’t and never have lived in NJ.

I used to travel to Camden on business at RCA on the waterfront. It was obvious that NJ really had control our crime.

I’m gritting my teeth and rolling my eyes while writing.

Am I imagining that we used to have to sign and record our address when we bought ammo? Seems like it was a federal law struck down by Reagan.

I remember one legislator proposed potting serial numbers on every bullet and registering them when you buy ammo. They thought they could trace crimes back to the person that bought the ammo. Fortunately that didn’t go anywhere.

All of this registration does is fill wear houses with mile high stacks of paper.

Come to TN, were the most 2nd amendment friendly state in the US.

In the mid-1970s in Arizona, my dad used to curse loudly when buying .22 LR ammo. Why? Because he had to show ID each time. It has long been a "policy" of some stores that customers need to show ID when buying ammo. Is it legal? Probably not. Can they get away with it? Yes, as long as Joe Citizen bends his knee and submits to quasi-Marxism.


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When asked for my phone, I just smile and politely say "I decline to provide that information."

Sometimes I get a a double take in response, but mostly the clerk will smile back and say "No problem."

And there is no problem.

It's not like they can't trace us if they want to. I mean, what if you pay with a card, any card?