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What happens to ammo accumulations when . . .
There are several reasons, none of them good, for why one person might need to dispose of another person's ammo collection (death, felony conviction, involuntary mental commitment, etc.).
When this happens, what does the person now sitting on the stash do with all that ammo?
(For me this is a hypothetical, not a present situation)
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Sell it, or shoot it.
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Please note the state from which this question is posted.
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1. I'd take what I wanted for my own personal use. I know that I am legal.
2. I belong to an NRA sanctioned club. I would post a "free" add and give it to anyone that could show me a valid pistol permit, so I would be sure they are already vetted and legal.
3. I also know a local LGS. I'd give it to him to sell, knowing that he would abide by all laws.
4. In the absence of options 1-3 I would contact the local police and give it to them.
5. If all else fails, I would break them down, put the powder in the garden and recycle the lead and brass.
In any event, whatever I did, before i did it, I would make sure that no laws were being broken.
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I'm not sure the state in question matters unless NJ regulates ammunition sales to the point of private transfers and I don't think that they do.
Actually, because NJ is a wacky state, and requires anyone to have a firearm permit to even own a gun, the rule there is that to acquire ammunition for a handgun (not sure about rifle ammo) the acquirer has to have a current Firearms Purchaser Identification Card or the carry permit that NJ has, which does exist, surprisingly.
Rifle ammunition is not, as far as I know, similarly restricted.
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That makes total sense. If the ammunition is usable in guns that you own why would you not simply keep it and use it?
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If it was a caliber I use, I would keep it and offer some out to family/friends. Here in NJ, you have to provide your FPID and DL if purchasing from a store, which then logs it in. If doing private face to face, the seller should require a look at your FPID and DL. At least that's how I remember it pre-covid hyperbole, haven't been able to find any without re-mortgaging the homestead.
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I would keep the ammo and keep my mouth shut.
Theft may be your biggest concern. Let the gang bangers get their ammo somewhere else.
If there were family members who could not be trusted not to blab about it, arrange for a trusted friend or relative across the state line to keep it legally in a secure, dry, cool place, in waterproof containers, preferably with desiccant packs.
I am not sure that you would be breaking any laws anyway, even in NJ.
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I went through this recently. In Texas many local auction houses will sell ammo. I was stuck with a pickup load of old and loose ammo "junk ammo" which I found a local buyer for at a huge discount.
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Depends on who needs the money . . .
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If it was a caliber I don’t own I would use that as an excuse to buy a gun chambered in said caliber
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Last winter I went through all my ammo and found several boxes for which I no longer had the firearms. Some old 12 gauge that was at least 40 years old, two boxes of .41 magnum, and three boxes of .38 S&W...took it all to the Police station and they gladly took it off my hands. Hindsight...would be nice to have now to swap for what I still shoot. Keep er movin!
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Just asking for a friend, eh? Have your friend sell want isn't wanted and save/shoot the rest.
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Or take it all canoeing in a deep lake.
Those things can be quite unstable.
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If it's a lot of ammo, it would make you popular at a gun show. Not sure if they have gun shows in NJ.
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Only kink might be if there is a court involved - meaning documented inventory, etc, court filings of sales, etc. I am executor for an older single gent. I know he has a lot of "stuff" and frankly I do not look forward to taking care of it when that time comes. That said, he has a trust which should make things easier.
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Bring the ammo home, park your car or truck in the garage and unload. Admit nothing, deny everything, launch counter accusations.
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Send it ALL to me and i will properly dispose of it ( send the bullets into a backstop and reload the brass) problem solved
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Maybe I should have posed the differently. What I meant was:
“What is supposed to be done with a big stash of ammo when the one now in control of the stash: does not like guns, has no clue what to do with ammo, and lives on a jurisdiction like NJ that is very restrictive.”
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Maybe I should have posed the differently. What I meant was:
“What is supposed to be done with a big stash of ammo when the one now in control of the stash: does not like guns, has no clue what to do with ammo, and lives on a jurisdiction like NJ that is very restrictive.”
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Sounds like we're moving from a hypothetical to a present situation now.
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Don't know about NJ, but here in Arizona it can be turned in to the police department to be disposed of. Happens all the time, and not a big deal at all here.
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Yeah, that woulda got you a better answer quicker, but you probably get that all the time . . .
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Maybe I should have posed the differently. What I meant was:
“What is supposed to be done with a big stash of ammo when the one now in control of the stash: does not like guns, has no clue what to do with ammo, and lives on a jurisdiction like NJ that is very restrictive.”
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Have the person that does not like guns give you the ammo. Keep what you need for yourself, friends, and go to the next gun show in Pa and sell the rest. Problem solved. If you check the laws in regard to ammo, it is not illegal to transport across state lines, you may not be able to buy or sell, online,across state lines due to state laws, but there is no federal law that would prevent you from taking a gift in nj and using or selling it in Pa. You are not "buying" it, you are over 21, you are not a felon. Be Safe,
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You might want to search “transferring ammunition in New Jersey . . . “
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Have the person that does not like guns give you the ammo. Keep what you need for yourself, friends, and go to the next gun show in Pa and sell the rest. Problem solved. If you check the laws in regard to ammo, it is not illegal to transport across state lines, you may not be able to buy or sell, online,across state lines due to state laws, but there is no federal law that would prevent you from taking a gift in nj and using or selling it in Pa. You are not "buying" it, you are over 21, you are not a felon. Be Safe,
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Maybe I should have posed the differently. What I meant was:
“What is supposed to be done with a big stash of ammo when the one now in control of the stash: does not like guns, has no clue what to do with ammo, and lives on a jurisdiction like NJ that is very restrictive.”
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Oh, dear, you're dealing with a jerkwad.....sorry.......
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Have the person that does not like guns give you the ammo. Keep what you need for yourself, friends, and go to the next gun show in Pa and sell the rest. Problem solved. If you check the laws in regard to ammo, it is not illegal to transport across state lines, you may not be able to buy or sell, online,across state lines due to state laws, but there is no federal law that would prevent you from taking a gift in nj and using or selling it in Pa. You are not "buying" it, you are over 21, you are not a felon. Be Safe,
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First and foremost, keep every round that fits a firearm that you own. If the person in possession wants money for the ammunition then so be it - make a reasonable payment and get it all.
Next, check with your shooting buddies to see what they need of the ammo you don't want. Sell it or give it to them.
If you can't do what is recommended in Answer 1 then take what's left and just drop it off at an LGS or shooting range if there is one and if you can't find an LGS then just give it to the local police to deal with.
Don't make a mountain out of a molehill. This is not rocket science.
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NJ state firearms regs
https://www.state.nj.us/njsp/info/pd...tle13-ch54.pdf
Searched this entire document for everywhere that the word ammunition is used and could find no reference to the transfer of ammunition between private, non retail business, parties.
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So now that we know NJ is the location, show your FPID/DL to your friend who wants no part of the ammo. Take possession of said ammo, then pm me if you are interested in getting rid of it. If not, just let your friend know someone (me) is interested in the ammo and will pick it up. I have only been ever asked if I was able (FPID) to purchase, and had ID (DL) to show I was who the FPID said I was. Good luck in helping out your friend.
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^^^what he said! Apologies to Will Rogers, I never met a box of ammo I didn't like. If you're dealing with a worrywart, offer some $. Keep it and say nothing. A lot of people out there don't like guns, even in gun-friendly states. You don't need someone calling 911, that you have 1000s of rounds of ammunition. I've seen and read sensationalized news items treating a few boxes of .22RF as though it were an ammo dump. Yet ammo changes hands all the time at garage and moving sales. If you're a gun guy/gal, don't turn ammo in to the local PD. That's for the antis who hate guns.
BTW, in times of shortages, I have very few friends. If they had $ to buy guns, they had $ for ammo.
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I'd keep all the .22s since that's all I shoot these days and divvy it up between all my friends. Arizona is a free state and no problems giving ammo to friends and family. I think I would find a dealer to take any ammo that I couldn't find a home for.
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Maybe I should have posed the differently. What I meant was:
“What is supposed to be done with a big stash of ammo when the one now in control of the stash: does not like guns, has no clue what to do with ammo, and lives on a jurisdiction like NJ that is very restrictive.”
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It still doesn't seem complicated. Find out what the law requires, then either shoot, hoard, sell, gift or turn it in to the state if that's required.
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Every time I went crazy I bought ammo.
Only time I felt I needed to dispose of ammo was for age and condition and it was accepted by local law enforcement.
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. I did and only saw info about retail sales, not private transfers? Be Safe,
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A few years ago a larger LGS had a few auctions for the state, three auctions I think about a month or more apart.
The owners of the guns and ammo could no longer keep them legally and the state took them. Lots of speculation as to why but I dont know, other than they a were now a prohibited person.
Anyway, lots of guns for sale and loads of ammo boxes full of new ammo. All neatly packed in ammo cans with desiccant bags. Also reloading equipment and supplies, ammo cans full of bullets.
I bought several cans of 308, the stores were getting $.65 a round, I paid $.30 and it came with and ammo can and on Garand clips. Yes, the auction had a a few 308 Garands, ugly things with scopes.
My friend got a nice 8"M41 and a Mint 8" 686 with combats in the box. I bought a mint HKPD M10 and 308 ammo and lead 45s.
So I'd guess if you cant keep your ammo fort, it can be sold off or auctioned.
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I guess it depends on the state you're in. My best friend passed a few years ago and had thousands of rounds of ammo in his stockpile. I kept some for myself, but sold the majority of it for his wife. Here in Tennessee it wasn't any problem at all.
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