Smith & Wesson Forum

Go Back   Smith & Wesson Forum > >

Ammo All Ammo Discussions Go Here


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 11-03-2020, 10:42 AM
delta-419 delta-419 is online now
SWCA Member
Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo  
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: NW Florida
Posts: 1,948
Likes: 3,574
Liked 2,644 Times in 435 Posts
Default Defensive Shotgun Ammo

Have you tried to find 12ga 00 buckshot for 2 3/4" chambers lately. It is sold out in in every gun shop in my area. Everybody said that its on back order? I did score on a round that is new to me manufactured by Winchester that is a combo of a 1oz. slug and 3 OO buckshot pellets. Velocity is 1150. The round is to enable the shooter to score a hit if the slug is not on target! Buckshot is placed on top of the slug. Have any of you tried this ammo and what are your thoughts? Its a bit pricey at $21 for a 10 pak. PS: I shoot a newly acquired old M97 Winchester.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 11-03-2020, 10:49 AM
Breakaway500 Breakaway500 is offline
Member
Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo  
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 1,478
Likes: 8,027
Liked 3,460 Times in 938 Posts
Default

Ammo supply warehouse has 12 gauge 00 buck in stock. $239/250 rounds or $25/25 rounds. Yes,still pricey but available.

Pretty much anythng coming out of a 12 gauge will suffice for self defense,except rubber balls and bean bags etc.
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
  #3  
Old 11-03-2020, 12:33 PM
Nevada Ed's Avatar
Nevada Ed Nevada Ed is offline
Member
Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo  
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Reno Nv
Posts: 9,141
Likes: 1,154
Liked 6,705 Times in 3,212 Posts
Default

I thought Slugs were for removing Hinges, door knobs or deer in the field?

Would you be ok in court, if you loaded Slugs for SD use ?
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 11-03-2020, 12:59 PM
Seamus O'Caiside Seamus O'Caiside is online now
Member
Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo  
Join Date: Jul 2020
Posts: 69
Likes: 118
Liked 110 Times in 39 Posts
Default

If I ever have to use a shotgun for self-defense, it will be at such close range that even bird shot will do the job. I have shotguns in 3 gauges, and thousands of rounds of clay pigeon shot for each of them.
Reply With Quote
The Following 5 Users Like Post:
  #5  
Old 11-03-2020, 01:52 PM
max's Avatar
max max is offline
US Veteran
Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo  
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: illinois
Posts: 5,326
Likes: 1,199
Liked 4,498 Times in 1,475 Posts
Default

Aim Surplus and Palmetto both have some buckshot in stock. I have a case coming tomorrow from Aim.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 11-03-2020, 02:49 PM
diyj98 diyj98 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: WV
Posts: 1,466
Likes: 95
Liked 1,509 Times in 723 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nevada Ed View Post
I thought Slugs were for removing Hinges, door knobs or deer in the field?

Would you be ok in court, if you loaded Slugs for SD use ?
I can't see any reason why slugs would be any worse than buckshot or any other load in court. To me that would be like a 45 acp being worse in court than a 380 acp, or one rifle round be worse than another legality wise.
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
  #7  
Old 11-03-2020, 06:27 PM
fiasconva's Avatar
fiasconva fiasconva is offline
Member
Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo  
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: York County, VA
Posts: 2,736
Likes: 0
Liked 3,071 Times in 1,158 Posts
Default

Nevada Ed, Evan Marshall said back in the day those slugs were great car stoppers. He said they would do a number on an engine block and disabled a car in no time.
__________________
Why duck?? It's a 9mm!
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 11-03-2020, 06:53 PM
VaTom VaTom is offline
Member
Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo  
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: SW Virginia
Posts: 1,291
Likes: 5,303
Liked 2,784 Times in 774 Posts
Default

Back in the day as an LEO when we carried model 10's (6 in the revolver and 12 in drop pouches) and High Standard Riot Guns then later Remington 870's we carried 00 buckshot in our shotguns. Mace and and a nightstick were out other defensive weapons. Times have changed!!
Reply With Quote
The Following 4 Users Like Post:
  #9  
Old 11-03-2020, 07:59 PM
Oracle's Avatar
Oracle Oracle is offline
US Veteran
Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo  
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Selah, Washington
Posts: 476
Likes: 1,617
Liked 711 Times in 294 Posts
Default

I have two 12 gauges, both Mossberg 500's, one is a Shockwave. I already had on hand shells for trap. The Shockwave has six trap shells which I pray will never be needed for anything other than cans or plastic jugs.
__________________
U.S. Coast Guard, retired CPO
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 11-03-2020, 08:05 PM
gwpercle's Avatar
gwpercle gwpercle is offline
Member
Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo  
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Baton Rouge, La.
Posts: 5,141
Likes: 4,628
Liked 5,222 Times in 2,525 Posts
Default

Way back in the day ... 1860's
Buck & Ball was loaded in Confederate smoothbore muskets , was quite effective against massed ranks charging fortifications ...
Still didn't win the war for them ... maybe it's time has come and gone .

A 12 gauge loaded with birdshot does a lot of damage at close range .
I keep mine loaded with #4 buck for inside the home and some 00 buck for back up ... just in case the #4 buck doesn't get the job done .

Gary
__________________
Certified Cajun
NRA Member

Last edited by gwpercle; 11-03-2020 at 08:08 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 11-03-2020, 08:26 PM
pasound's Avatar
pasound pasound is online now
Member
Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo  
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: West Virginia
Posts: 740
Likes: 409
Liked 916 Times in 411 Posts
Default

#4 buck for the inside, #1 buck for the outside for me. Gun Broker seems to have some, but at high prices.
__________________
Heavily armed old man.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 11-03-2020, 08:30 PM
ProCarryNAustin ProCarryNAustin is offline
Member
Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo  
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 107
Likes: 21
Liked 148 Times in 63 Posts
Default

I’ve seen birdshot penetrate less than 25acp in gel.
Buck vs Slug
Not sure about your state but no “degrees of deadly force” in most places.
Check TNOutdoors9 on YouTube on 12 gauge slugs. Was an eye opener for me.
I would be fine with buck or slug.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 11-03-2020, 09:59 PM
bigben55 bigben55 is offline
Member
Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo  
Join Date: Jul 2020
Posts: 73
Likes: 8
Liked 82 Times in 33 Posts
Default

I prefer #4 buckshot for self defense over 00. 27 pellets vs 9. Less distance, but more spread and less potential for overpenetration.
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
  #14  
Old 11-03-2020, 11:02 PM
Igiveup Igiveup is offline
Member
Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo  
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Southern Oregon
Posts: 1,020
Likes: 2,470
Liked 672 Times in 400 Posts
Default

I keep my 870 ex-police shotgun loaded with # 4 buck shot. Everything I have read, this is the "in-door" load for self defense.
__________________
Kevin in Oregon
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #15  
Old 11-04-2020, 04:30 AM
geekeye geekeye is offline
Member
Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo  
Join Date: Jun 2020
Location: California
Posts: 44
Likes: 5
Liked 63 Times in 17 Posts
Default

i keep #2 bird and #4 buck in the tube, and slugs on the side saddle. targetsportsusa and buds have had 12ga in stock, but the situation seems to be getting worse all the time.


good luck!
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 11-04-2020, 04:54 AM
Frank46 Frank46 is offline
US Veteran
Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo  
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: New Iberia, Louisiana
Posts: 4,186
Likes: 21,989
Liked 2,917 Times in 1,518 Posts
Default

I bought two police turned in 870 riot guns. And never gave a though that in my wildest dreams that I would have to use them. Now what with all the mess going on had previously laid in a supply of slugs,buckshot #4, some 4 buckshot and I already had some #7 and #8 birdshot and 4 boxes of #4 shot. Frank
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 11-04-2020, 07:14 AM
scooter123 scooter123 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan
Posts: 6,621
Likes: 168
Liked 3,758 Times in 1,888 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ProCarryNAustin View Post
I’ve seen birdshot penetrate less than 25acp in gel.
Buck vs Slug
Not sure about your state but no “degrees of deadly force” in most places.
Check TNOutdoors9 on YouTube on 12 gauge slugs. Was an eye opener for me.
I would be fine with buck or slug.
Was that test YOU did take place at 10 or 15 feet? BTW, unless you were actually present for the test you talk about what you saw is Heresay. Odds are also good that test was done at 25 yards because the entire world seems to be convinced that 25 yards is the only distance that you can test ammunition at.

At 15 feet a 12 gage Target load will feature a 1 1/8 ounce of #8 shot with a muzzle velocity of 1200 fps. At 10-15 feet those pellets will not have lost much velocity so those 400 or so pellets will be at near peak energy. Spread for that pattern will be roughly 5 inches at 10 feet and 7.5 at 15 feet. Keep in mind that that is the total pattern size and the core of that pattern will be roughly 65 % of the total pattern and contain something around 80% of the load. So, if it only produces 8 inches of penetration you have to remember the total mass of the pellets reaching that depth. Basically you have a hole of tissue about 3 inches in diameter 8 to 10 inches deep that was instantly turned into hamburger. This why a "low power" shotgun Target load is so devastating, at short ranges that mass of tiny little pellets is devastating.
Reply With Quote
The Following 5 Users Like Post:
  #18  
Old 11-04-2020, 08:16 AM
Muss Muggins Muss Muggins is offline
Member
Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo  
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: bootheel of Missouri
Posts: 13,494
Likes: 5,360
Liked 21,512 Times in 6,848 Posts
Default

I have a general policy of using the same ammunition the cops use, if I can find it, for my personal self defense. I think he's good . . .

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nevada Ed View Post
I thought Slugs were for removing Hinges, door knobs or deer in the field?

Would you be ok in court, if you loaded Slugs for SD use ?
__________________
Wisdom comes thru fear . . .
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 11-04-2020, 08:50 AM
bushmaster1313's Avatar
bushmaster1313 bushmaster1313 is offline
Member
Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo  
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: PRNJ
Posts: 5,717
Likes: 466
Liked 13,386 Times in 2,674 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by delta-419 View Post
Have you tried to find 12ga 00 buckshot for 2 3/4" chambers lately.
No problem
Found it right where I put it
__________________
Buy American
Vote Responsibly

Last edited by bushmaster1313; 11-04-2020 at 11:32 AM.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #20  
Old 11-04-2020, 08:54 AM
duane_wade duane_wade is offline
Member
Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo  
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: INDIANA
Posts: 107
Likes: 526
Liked 243 Times in 87 Posts
Default

When the George Floyd mess started we couldn't find anything in our LGS but I did pick up 2 boxes of HV BB loads and I think those would work well for defending our castle.

Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk

Last edited by duane_wade; 11-05-2020 at 11:36 AM.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #21  
Old 11-04-2020, 08:59 AM
ProCarryNAustin ProCarryNAustin is offline
Member
Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo  
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 107
Likes: 21
Liked 148 Times in 63 Posts
Default

“Was that test YOU did take place at 10 or 15 feet? BTW, unless you were actually present for the test you talk about what you saw is Heresay.”

7 yards. I was present. 7 and 8 birdshot. Results were visually impressive but stopped at 7-8 inches. I look for at least 12 inches of penetration in gel.

Have never seen a handgun or shotgun gel test at 25 yards.

Last edited by ProCarryNAustin; 11-04-2020 at 09:03 AM.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #22  
Old 11-04-2020, 10:11 AM
Rob613 Rob613 is offline
Member
Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo  
Join Date: Jun 2019
Location: Watkins Glen, NY
Posts: 221
Likes: 18
Liked 306 Times in 109 Posts
Default Defensive Shotgun Ammo

A couple of years ago, my old neighbor shot a tweaker who kicked his door in with #8 in the chest from about 5 feet. I helped him fix his door frame and clean up some blood.

Tweaker did not die, nothing penetrated deep enough. However, it was enough to stop him in his tracks and he was no longer interested in coming in my neighbors house (talk about a buzz kill). He laid on the floor crying, until the ambulance scooped him up.

I personally would only use birdshot if I was real worried about over penetration.
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 11-04-2020, 10:44 AM
Nick B Nick B is offline
US Veteran
Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo  
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: S.W. Fl.
Posts: 1,302
Likes: 308
Liked 707 Times in 287 Posts
Default

I’ve got some lead #4 high brass duck loads for in the house close encounters.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #24  
Old 11-04-2020, 11:30 AM
Drm50 Drm50 is offline
Member
Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo  
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Monroe cnty. Ohio
Posts: 4,780
Likes: 3,515
Liked 6,901 Times in 2,563 Posts
Default

I don’t have much buckshot, never had a use for it. I have several hundred 12 & 20g slugs left over from Ohio deer season. ( we have rifle now) Also have several hundred rounds of 12g 2.75” magnum loads of 4 & 5 shot and a few hundred Turkey duplex loads.

Armchair warriors who bad mouth shotguns for HD/SD have never seen what even Target Load 7.5 will do at short range. Most hunting accidents are short range, loading / unloading incidents. Center body is usually DOA and if in limb, it has to be amputated. Bird shot not good for the running gunfights but good for defense.
Reply With Quote
The Following 5 Users Like Post:
  #25  
Old 11-04-2020, 12:18 PM
AJ AJ is online now
Member
Defensive Shotgun Ammo  
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Central East Coast of Flo
Posts: 1,678
Likes: 366
Liked 2,166 Times in 887 Posts
Default

I was trained as a Combat Shotgun Instructor when I was in the Corps. We fired 350 rounds of 00 & Slugs in a three day time period. Lots of quick reaction drills and hostage drills. So I am partial to 00 & slugs. My copy of a USMC Remington M870 Mark 1 is loaded with six rounds of 00 Buck up first and the last two rounds are slugs.
__________________
USMC 1969-1993
Reply With Quote
The Following 6 Users Like Post:
  #26  
Old 11-04-2020, 02:56 PM
Retired W4's Avatar
Retired W4 Retired W4 is offline
US Veteran
Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo  
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Atlanta area
Posts: 4,000
Likes: 2,149
Liked 4,273 Times in 1,012 Posts
Default

During the 1996 Olympics here the FBI took over our hangar at Dobbins ARB. Tac vehicles, Zodiacs, etc. One room was used by their armorers. When they left they left a wall locker full of ammo, which I inherited. Shot gun ammo was Federal Premium 00 Buck and Federal grey box slugs.

Just like in the military, it easier to dump that stuff than it is to return it to the logistics guy.
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old 11-04-2020, 03:52 PM
biku324's Avatar
biku324 biku324 is online now
Member
Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo  
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: NM
Posts: 1,279
Likes: 2,643
Liked 2,613 Times in 852 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Drm50 View Post
I don’t have much buckshot, never had a use for it. I have several hundred 12 & 20g slugs left over from Ohio deer season. ( we have rifle now) Also have several hundred rounds of 12g 2.75” magnum loads of 4 & 5 shot and a few hundred Turkey duplex loads.

Armchair warriors who bad mouth shotguns for HD/SD have never seen what even Target Load 7.5 will do at short range. Most hunting accidents are short range, loading / unloading incidents. Center body is usually DOA and if in limb, it has to be amputated. Bird shot not good for the running gunfights but good for defense.
One of the deadest guys I ever saw took a single load of cheap 12 gauge 7.5s to the upper chest and neck from 10 or 12 feet away. Pathologists call those 'rat hole' wounds for good reason.

Don't anger your wife by telling her how great your girlfriend performs.

Last edited by biku324; 11-04-2020 at 05:50 PM.
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
  #28  
Old 11-04-2020, 03:55 PM
ruger 22 ruger 22 is offline
Member
Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo  
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: NY
Posts: 284
Likes: 126
Liked 343 Times in 168 Posts
Default

Do dismiss the effectiveness of just plain bird shot at close in-house ranges. I will never forget seeing someone shot at roughly 15' in a living room with 1 1/8 ounces of no. 9 skeet shot. It all depends on what and where your needs are.
Reply With Quote
  #29  
Old 11-04-2020, 06:21 PM
fiasconva's Avatar
fiasconva fiasconva is offline
Member
Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo  
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: York County, VA
Posts: 2,736
Likes: 0
Liked 3,071 Times in 1,158 Posts
Default

There was a study out there done by the Ga St Patrol years ago about the effectiveness of various buckshot loads. Their recommendation was #1 buck since it had more pellets, filled the pattern better, and didn't penetrate walls like 00 buck did. The hard part would be finding it nowadays. The only place I've seen it was in Federal 3" shells at BassPro a couple of years ago.
__________________
Why duck?? It's a 9mm!
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
  #30  
Old 11-04-2020, 08:02 PM
biku324's Avatar
biku324 biku324 is online now
Member
Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo  
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: NM
Posts: 1,279
Likes: 2,643
Liked 2,613 Times in 852 Posts
Default

Lots of us in the NMSP used 4 Buck for exactly the above reasons. The 2 3/4" version is still commonly available.

Last edited by biku324; 11-04-2020 at 08:09 PM.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #31  
Old 11-04-2020, 09:18 PM
bushmaster1313's Avatar
bushmaster1313 bushmaster1313 is offline
Member
Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo  
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: PRNJ
Posts: 5,717
Likes: 466
Liked 13,386 Times in 2,674 Posts
Default

I do not know if this is still made
Have not seen it for sale online in a very long time
It used to cost about $6 for a box of 10
Fiocchi Reduced Recoil 12LE00BK
My favorite defensive shotgun load
__________________
Buy American
Vote Responsibly
Reply With Quote
  #32  
Old 11-04-2020, 10:24 PM
sigp220.45's Avatar
sigp220.45 sigp220.45 is offline
US Veteran
Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo  
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Colorado
Posts: 5,871
Likes: 18,896
Liked 20,260 Times in 3,284 Posts
Default

I just use buckshot. I have a ton of it.

Birdshot fans should check out the video from a shooting at Seattle Pacific University of few years ago. The shooter killed a student outside, went into a campus building, and shot 19 year old Sarah Williams in the chest from about 4 yards away. He used a full length over/under 12 gauge and birdshot.

At the shot, young Sarah stops, turns around, walks down a hallway, where another student helped her to the floor and called her Mom for her. She told her mom she’d been shot, and waited for the ambulance.

She describes what it felt like in this article.

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle...ic-university/

I won’t link the video, but its not hard to find.

Now personally I subscribe to the “shoot them with anything and they’ll probably go away” school of thought. But some folks might wonder if a heavily muscled guy with a leather coat and a grievance might not press on through the birdshot.
__________________
Ramblers - lets get ramblin’.

Last edited by sigp220.45; 11-04-2020 at 10:28 PM.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #33  
Old 11-04-2020, 10:37 PM
mscampbell2734 mscampbell2734 is offline
Member
Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo  
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 431
Likes: 3
Liked 341 Times in 165 Posts
Default

4 Buck in stock, get it quick
Nobel Sport Italia 12 Gauge Ammunition ANS124BK10 2-3/4" 4 Buck 27 Pellets 10 Rounds
Reply With Quote
  #34  
Old 11-05-2020, 02:01 AM
Cal44 Cal44 is online now
Member
Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo Defensive Shotgun Ammo  
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Northern California
Posts: 3,289
Likes: 5,015
Liked 5,719 Times in 1,684 Posts
Default

I have 4 buck, but only about 20 rounds.

Plus 50 rounds of #3 lead bird shot for my 12 ga Mossy 500.

I live in a suburban area with close neighbors and need to limit over-prmetration.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Defensive Ammo for CS-9 FoundFather Smith & Wesson Semi-Auto Pistols 18 07-19-2020 12:52 PM
Defensive Shotgun Sights ?'s boatbum101 Firearms & Knives - Other Brands 18 01-20-2019 02:44 AM
Why isn't there a S&W defensive shotgun? oldylocks Smith & Wesson - The Wish List 24 05-04-2017 11:48 AM
Defensive Shotgun Course Florida Panhandle HayesGreener Concealed Carry & Self Defense 1 06-19-2014 08:25 AM
Defensive Ammo for 66-2 Harley2007 S&W Revolvers: 1980 to the Present 14 08-20-2009 07:35 PM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3
smith-wessonforum.com tested by Norton Internet Security smith-wessonforum.com tested by McAfee Internet Security

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:39 PM.


Search Engine Optimisation provided by DragonByte SEO v2.0.42 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2020 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Smith-WessonForum.com is not affiliated with Smith & Wesson Holding Corporation (NASDAQ Global Select: SWHC)