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Daughters can be a PITA
Now I have to find a couple boxes of 5.7 x 28 for my daughter. Her husband gave her a new Ruger in that caliber for her drive across country...for protection... and she only has 2 boxes of ammo. and wouldn't you know it...about a month ago I was offered a 1000 rounds of it for a reasonable price. I say a PITA because with those of you who have daughters will recognize ...the start of the conversation was Daddy, I love you ! yeah right...and they always seem to want something!! Remember??
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X2 on that price. Just looked.ouch
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Wow...I shoulda bought that stuff when it was offered to me. But if she wants it...it's gonna be HER money that buys 'em at that kinda price!!
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What an unusual choice for a self defense gun for a cross country drive. Not being critical, not implying it's a bad choice. Just seems unusual. I don't think I've ever seen that caliber in a store, but I've never looked for it either.
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WOW.... That's nuts !!!
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Well I'll try to splain as Ricky said to Lucy. Back last July she broke her arm at the wrist area badly enough it needed surgery. Anyway...when she was back east at Christmas time she got to shoot the 5.7 and was able to handle the recoil with no pain or loss of motion. Not so with the Ruger 357 I had given her for personal protection but she also has a 22(hey better than nothing). She manages a ranch up near Red Lodge in montany country and had flown east... She drove back in a P/U that her employer had in Md. He sold a farm in waterfowl country and he wanted to bring the truck to Montana...so she drove it back out here. Ergo needed a PP gun and one that didn't hurt to shoot. So there it is...the whole story.+ She's still a PITA
Oh and I did see some of it available at the Billings Cabela's back about the 10th of Dec...before she went east
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I feel for you. My daughter wanted to shoot trap. Shes left handed. Traded a 03 Springfield for a singke barrel trap gun. She wanted a scope for her .22 last year. I had a tasco on my first .22 from a bubble pack! I put a Leopold on hers lol! I look at as i got her into shooting. Well worth the cost.
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I did it to myself....
No one to blame but me. I've only tinkered with rounds requiring small rifle primers, but I was stocked up on the stuff i use. I recently finished building two ARs and used up the 150 primers I had the first week. Now I'm stuck with buying commercial ammo.
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Only 2 boxes of ammo ... that's 100 rounds ... is she expecting trouble ..****nning gun battles up and down the interstate .
What's going on !
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Now I have to find a couple boxes of 5.7 x 28 for my daughter. Her husband gave her a new Ruger in that caliber for her drive across country...for protection... and she only has 2 boxes of ammo. and wouldn't you know it...about a month ago I was offered a 1000 rounds of it for a reasonable price. I say a PITA because with those of you who have daughters will recognize ...the start of the conversation was Daddy, I love you ! yeah right...and they always seem to want something!! Remember??
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Only 2 boxes of ammo ... that's 100 rounds ... is she expecting trouble ..****nning gun battles up and down the interstate .
What's going on !
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Maybe she watched too much "Walking Dead".
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Wow...I shoulda bought that stuff when it was offered to me. But if she wants it...it's gonna be HER money that buys 'em at that kinda price!!
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X2 on that price. Just looked.ouch
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Double ouch! I load .22TCM for about $1.80 a round less than that. And that’s basing it on a primer price of 10 to 12 cents.
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That is what happens when you go out and buy the new style "Toys" that they are making today, for us to play with and be "Cool", shooting the new weapons, that look like something Flash Gordon would use.
What ever floats your boat.
If it is the rifle that I am thinking about, I really don't care for the style or shape. It looks like a short 2x6 with a hole in it, but I'm old fashioned and don't care for a lot of the new "Plastic weapons", however the new ammo is interesting.
A 40gr bullet for SD ?
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That is what happens when you go out and buy the new style "Toys" that they are making today, for us to play with and be "Cool", shooting the new weapons, that look like something Flash Gordon would use.
What ever floats your boat.
If it is the rifle that I am thinking about, I really don't care for the style or shape. It looks like a short 2x6 with a hole in it, but I'm old fashioned and don't care for a lot of the new "Plastic weapons", however the new ammo is interesting.
A 40gr bullet for SD ?
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What's a walking dead...some kinda zombie show? Well I consider a 100 rounds as woefully short of ammo. I do have a few calibers or gauges I don't really need much of..or types of ammo. I probably only have about a 100 or maybe a few more 12 ga slugs...mainly for my bear gun a tactical(hate that word) M-1 super 90 and a couple hundred buckshot rounds...but I can make them easily. I can probably find another 100 or so 5.7s for her..Then I can get my 357 Ruger combo back. I gave her a Rem 7400 06 for necessary and she has a very accurate 22-250 for yotes and wolfies and of course her favorite Rem 11-87. That gal can shoot that darn thiing. She's a less than a box dove limit shooter on average...be better if she shot more!
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What's a walking dead...some kinda zombie show? Well I consider a 100 rounds as woefully short of ammo. I do have a few calibers or gauges I don't really need much of..or types of ammo. I probably only have about a 100 or maybe a few more 12 ga slugs...mainly for my bear gun a tactical(hate that word) M-1 super 90 and a couple hundred buckshot rounds...but I can make them easily. I can probably find another 100 or so 5.7s for her..Then I can get my 357 Ruger combo back. I gave her a Rem 7400 06 for necessary and she has a very accurate 22-250 for yotes and wolfies and of course her favorite Rem 11-87. That gal can shoot that darn thiing. She's a less than a box dove limit shooter on average...be better if she shot more!
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What's a walking dead...some kinda zombie show? Well I consider a 100 rounds as woefully short of ammo. I do have a few calibers or gauges I don't really need much of..or types of ammo. I probably only have about a 100 or maybe a few more 12 ga slugs...mainly for my bear gun a tactical(hate that word) M-1 super 90 and a couple hundred buckshot rounds...but I can make them easily. I can probably find another 100 or so 5.7s for her..Then I can get my 357 Ruger combo back. I gave her a Rem 7400 06 for necessary and she has a very accurate 22-250 for yotes and wolfies and of course her favorite Rem 11-87. That gal can shoot that darn thiing. She's a less than a box dove limit shooter on average...be better if she shot more!
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I had to get out of the closet and see what the 5.7x28mm was all about and saw that it really is a good load in a pistol for SD and will shoot through both of the rear doors of a car, with the right ammo.
I also saw different ammo and weapons with short to 8" barrels
in a rifle type weapon, shoot this ammo that got up to 2,000 fps plus, on a youtube site with, BuffmanRANGE.
A mini rifle case out of a pistol............
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My daughter, just last month, took home my M36 no dash 3 inch J frame. She need a self defense gun in a liberal town west of us, over the Cascades where there was some beginnings of riots.
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Only thing gun related my daughter has ever asked me for was pink grips for her stainless Taurus revolver, and "some of those bullets that kill people dead."
She was talking about hollow points.
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Why isn't loving hubby buying her ammo instead of you?
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He only had 300 rounds and she grabbed up one of the 2 handguns he had(the unfired one of course) and promptly ran 50 rounds through it. So he kept the one and she got the other. She got 2 boxes of ammo and 2 loaded mags. Heck I don't even know how many one of those mags hold I would assume that finding 5.7 ammo is just as hard on the Eastern Shore of Md and Delaware as it is here. When he was last out here I loaded about a 1000 223s to take back east with him, They have a little problem as they have 5 boys and a daughter that all shoot...but one is in school on a baseball scholarship and doesn't get to shoot all that much...the one girl is out here in Montana working as a ranch manager like her mother. Talked to her the other day and she said when she comes back down this way she needs more 22 ammo. Hard nosed gals..both mother and daughter. Daughter's hubby is making big bucks back east and they are looking to buy a ranch when he packs nuff money away and the other daughter is almost 11 and is going to school in Montana in a school with about 16 students...better than tha packed schools back east that have LOTS of problems. Long distance marriage though!
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No daughters so I cannot comment on the PITA factor involved.
9 grandchildren and 5 great-grandchildren, major PITA factor. Long drawn-out whining voices with exasperated tones of voice, "G-R-A-M-M-M-P-A-A-A-A!"
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That is what happens when you go out and buy the new style "Toys" that they are making today, for us to play with and be "Cool", shooting the new weapons, that look like something Flash Gordon would use.
What ever floats your boat.
If it is the rifle that I am thinking about, I really don't care for the style or shape. It looks like a short 2x6 with a hole in it, but I'm old fashioned and don't care for a lot of the new "Plastic weapons", however the new ammo is interesting.
A 40gr bullet for SD ?
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My daughter, just last month, took home my M36 no dash 3 inch J frame. She need a self defense gun in a liberal town west of us, over the Cascades where there was some beginnings of riots.
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... both have a couple of my guns and ammo I supplied. Also outfitted a few friends with a handful of rounds just in case. That's all for me.
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Have also passed out ammo to Family Members.
I got time to patrol the stores and pounce when I see some for sale.
My family folks are working.
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A laser beam doesn't weigh anything. Don't want to be hit by a high powered one though. Taser barbs are pretty light too......
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Just a note;
Back in the 60's I had a single action Ruger that shot 22 LR and had the cylinder for the longer 22 Magnum, that had a 40 gr bullet.
I would not want to be hit with that round...........
let alone the newer 5.7 that holds even more powder !!
Just that it seems funny, that a small 40 gr bullet has advanced so far in todays times, that it now qualifies as a accepted SD load.
Super Sonic BB's will probably be the next super loading ?
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The 5.7x28 is nothing to sneeze at, I have the Ruger 57, the ammo runs in excess of 2000fps. Can't even shoot it at my local indoor range because of that. It is a bottleneck cartridge, looks like a shrunken .223.
The Ruger magazines hold 20 rounds. I have 5 magazines, that's 100 rounds and man, can you go thru them fast!
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I don't own a 5.7X28 but I have shot a FN and I think the caliber would be great for self defense pistol. Many people believe a pistol is not a one shot stop gun so a 5.7 with very little recoil and a bunch of bullets should get the job done. The cost of the ammo should not be a problem for most people because they rarely shoot. Larry
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I found one box for 35 bucks and gave 'em to her yesterday. She had to see the orthopedic doc and her mother was necessary if you know what I mean. And I'm gonna get my Ruger back...yippee! Sadly the doc said her wrist/arm break will probably will get no better ...even with more surgery. But she has turned into haf a lefty...but she will no longer be able to work as a farrier. I'm kinda glad about that as horses can be dangerous critters...esp other people's...But she can still do her ranch work and she loves living out here in the west. Only need one more box of that ammo. What little I have read about the caliber is very positive for personal protection
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My daughter got an AR for a wedding present (from a great friend who happens to own a LGS). While she was over on Christmas (a snowy one!) she asked her Dad if there was any extra .223 in the house. Gotta love it!
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If I had a daughter in that liberal town West of the Cascades, I wouldn’t hesitate to give her the Model 36, as much ammo for it as she could carry. Then I would add a pump or semi-auto shotgun with as much ammo for it as she could carry as well. Guns and ammo are replaceable, our kids and kin are not.
BTW, my littlest niece (the 5’ naught “tiny dancer”) turned up her nose at pink grips for her Model 30-1 and “demanded” a custom set of Roy Fishpaw grips instead! I keep her supplied with my Lead SWCs for practice and factory JHPs for “serious work.”
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01-22-2021, 02:37 PM
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I wish my daughter (still at home in HS) was into firearms or even the outdoors. Mine always prefaces her desires by suddenly cleaning the kitchen or offering to help with other chores outside of her assigned ones, then once done, says, "Dad, can I have x?", or "Dad, can I go to x with x?", or asks for money for some amorphous reason that ends up being money wasted getting fake nails or some creams and lotions that cost more than ammo.
My boys will do anything outdoors, even mow and weed. I'm buying a chainsaw this weekend to remove some ancillary (read useless) trees, and they've already got designs on using it. No. Just no.
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01-22-2021, 03:16 PM
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I wish my daughter (still at home in HS) was into firearms or even the outdoors. Mine always prefaces her desires by suddenly cleaning the kitchen or offering to help with other chores outside of her assigned ones, then once done, says, "Dad, can I have x?", or "Dad, can I go to x with x?", or asks for money for some amorphous reason that ends up being money wasted getting fake nails or some creams and lotions that cost more than ammo.
My boys will do anything outdoors, even mow and weed. I'm buying a chainsaw this weekend to remove some ancillary (read useless) trees, and they've already got designs on using it. No. Just no.
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Well if she really doesn't want anything to do with the outdoors I wouldn't make her do it...but being the way I am and was...when it comes to the can I have money or can I go here or there...there would be some...No...just nos... there too. How old is she? Mine got to spend wasted money ONLY when she Earned it herself...what a wake up call that was! Sounds mean but mine worked at the gun club and made darn good money doing so and learned to deal with adults...most of the adults really liked her and she didn't try to smooze them. Grand kids have had to do the same both boys and girls.....not even any cell phones. The youngest is waiting till she gets to be 12 when she will get a Marlin M-39 set aside for her
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Well if she really doesn't want anything to do with the outdoors I wouldn't make her do it...but being the way I am and was...when it comes to the can I have money or can I go here or there...there would be some...No...just nos... there too. How old is she? Mine got to spend wasted money ONLY when she Earned it herself...what a wake up call that was! Sounds mean but mine worked at the gun club and made darn good money doing so and learned to deal with adults...most of the adults really liked her and she didn't try to smooze them. Grand kids have had to do the same both boys and girls.....not even any cell phones. The youngest is waiting till she gets to be 12 when she will get a Marlin M-39 set aside for her
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I hear you. My daughter just got her driving license, so she's looking to go to work soon, which I heavily encourage. Her phone is earned, and if she screws up, it gets taken away. My boys won't be getting phones until and unless they are participating in school activities away from home and maybe not then. So far, they only participate in martial arts locally and far prefer to be out with me working, fishing, or four-wheeling at the grandparent's land. I really dislike the phone thing with kids these days. I never had one in school (they didn't exist) and got by just fine. What's funny is these parents that will drop $1000 on the latest iPhone, and to a man, all those kids' phones have cracked screens, despite cases.
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