I went through my ammo inventory the other day and pulled out all of my rimfire ammo. Not a whole lot, but, a little more than I anticipated. The majority is .22LR. Some decent target stuff like Wolf Match/Match Extra, SK Sub Sonic, Federal Match, but mostly CCI Mini Mag HP & Standard Velocity. I was surprised to find I still had 4 50 rd boxes of ELEY TENEX! And a bunch of bulk 'shoot'em-up' stuff. A good supply of .17HMR V-Max, and just a few boxes of .22WMR. It should be enough to keep the freezer stocked with rabbit and squirrel, pest/varmint control, and get in some target shooting trigger time ta' boot!

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Check the latest prices on Mini Mags... you may want to make a centerpiece out of those boxes, stick a candle in the middle, and just admire them over dinner for a few days before you use them!

Hard to believe I was complaining over paying $15/100 last summer at a local show, ROFL!

OP, and your point is........ Caliber challenged???...

Point is; I was happy that I had more rimfire ammo than I thought!

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What are Mini-Mags going for now? We don't have any stores that sell ammo, and I don't see any available on-line so I honestly don't know. I think I paid .11 cents the last time I bought some.

25,000 rounds .22LR for me.

Roughly $150.00 per 500 rounds on Gun Broker!

You're in the middle of a lake, what do you have there?! LOL

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I'm still walking funny after paying $130 for 500 rounds of Armscor 22lr this last Saturday. The last box in the city.

I hope the Ammo makers causing this shortage get their butts sued into submission. This should never happen ever again.

The worst part was out of 100 rounds fired on Saturday, 40 of them were duds. I was shooting a variety of 22lr pistols and every one of them experienced rim-strikes but no BANG.

Dud Ammo that I paid $0.26 a round for.

I am seething still and it's MONDAY NIGHT.

That picture is what all of us should have stashed before all this started. Maybe not those exact shells but a decent supply to get by with. Over the last few years when I saw a good deal on 22s I bought a few boxes or a couple of bricks. It is called planning ahead. I remembered the hard times of the early 2010s and stocked up when the price was right. But then I was never short during those times either because to this day I am shooting 22s bought in the late 80s and early 90s. I have enough and haven't even looked at 22s (or any other ammo) since the lid blew off early in 2020.

Only thing here is the Shamrock Bar & Grill..... that can be a problem :-)

15+ cases here, most of which was built up over 2018 - early 2020. Bought my last case of Aguila on March 11 for $175. Based on what I saw Sunday that single case is worth about $1,650.

17,000 rounds or so for me. I still don’t think it’s enough. I remember shooting 500 round bricks in an afternoon not all that long ago

How about these? 2.8 cents/rd
Still have these in a seal-a-meal bag from 1980...

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[QUOTE=Tytan01;141040969]I'm still walking funny after paying $130 for 500 rounds of Armscor 22lr this last Saturday. The last box in the city.

I hope the Ammo makers causing this shortage get their butts sued into submission. This should never happen ever again.

The worst part was out of 100 rounds fired on Saturday, 40 of them were 40 where duds. ] quote

A 40% failure rate!!

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I've been paying $8 per hundred for Mini-Mags, that's Walmart's current price. Same as what their price was last year, and the year before that.
Sometimes I go in Walmart and they don't have any ammo, but I've found them pretty regularly over the summer and fall.

A few days ago another Walmart to the north of me must have just put out a good 8,000 rounds. I bought 2,625 rounds ( 5 boxes of 525 each) of Remington Goldens as I was getting low on plinking ammo.

Someone asked me why I didn't buy more of it (or buy it all) and sell some at a profit.
I told him, partly because there is a gun show next weekend and I want to have some money in my pocket if something tickles my fancy, and partly because I don't want to be that "other guy", that deprives others of some ammo to shoot just so I can profit off of others.

Just because Walmart doesn't limit how much you buy, doesn't mean I am going to take advantage of that and wipe them out.
They will have more ammo on the shelf the next time I go there.
I'm sure someone else that came in after me was as happy to buy some .22s as I was.

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Can't tell for sure but the price tag looks like those came from Kmart. I have 2-3 hundred rounds that came from there about the same time stored in an ammo can.

Atta Boy! Way to go.

You can get MiniMags in the stores here, for $8.00 per hundred, if, you can get to them before the flippers and gougers.

“We have found the enemy, and, he is us”.

Best,
Gary

no pics from me; no number of rounds of ammo.
Just sayin' I have enough to go shootin' every couple of weeks and take my son and grandson out with the 1022s and 1522s and burn though a couple hundred without a worry of running out.

Talked to a friend yesterday, who just kept buying after the last go-around. He has in the excess of 150K stocked up. No plans to sell any either.

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He is a wise man. You never know when the spigot will be turned off and what you have is going to be what you have.

As best that I remember,.... YES I believe KMart is where I got these.

Geez... After looking and straining my eyes to see, there is a very small KMart stamp on these tags.

I happen to have approx 50M(Roman numerals) in 525 and 550 brixks. and 4 1600 round boxes Federal that I bought on Black Friday weekend . Also got a couple of those Remington buckets...and I have a cardboard box down in the vault with boxes of mini-mags Stingers velocitors etc etc. I even have 2 or 3 quart freezer bags of 22 LR shot rounds some one gave me, That someone also gave me a trashed box of 22 Short shot rounds. I didn't even know they made them. I even have about 4 of the wooden boxes of Winchester 22s...and brick of the No lead Winchester(Bullets were 26?) gr tin. I recently sold a fellow fifteen thousand for 8 cents a round. All of a sudden 22 ammo has dried up completely in our area of Wyoming/Montana.

Edited to add I bought a bunch of ammo when K Mart quit selling ammo many years ago. I still have a case of Remington 20 ga RXP skeet loads and a case of Remington 28 ga plastic skeet loads I bought at the time,,,buck a box. I also have one box of some S&W-Fiocchi 12 ga. I also got a case of 'em for a buck a box. Sold most to some dove hunters. Retail(K-Mart) was 1.86 a box so this must have been early 80's

Yes; I do.

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Or something like that . . .

The ammo makers had nothing to do with this. It is the people that are willing to pay $130 for 500 rounds that are the problem.

I agree, I went out with my boy, daughter 3 sons in law and wife and shot 250 round though my new 43c(that I think is my wife's now) and my bearcat

I went through the same exercise a couple weeks ago and was shocked at the total.I was expecting 2-3K but found out I have way over 10K.
I guess I won't buy any for the next couple of years so as to let other shooters a chance to grab some.

The ammo manufacturers aren't the problem but if you believe that and have the proof, why don't you file the lawsuit.

I have enough .22 LR that I don't know how much I have...

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When we had the last 22 ammo shortage I saw a "lady" pay 90 dollars per 500 for Remington TBs at an auction. And she bought all they had/... 10,000 and said I have enough for my grandsons to shoot for a while. I honestly think she thought she had made a real score. It is thinking such as that which drives these prices even now. I had some 9mms(3000) I had bought for just less than 8 dollars a box. I told a fellow I didn't want to sell any but he just had to have them and offered me 40 a box...I sold him 20 boxes. It boils down to he didn't care about the money. He just wanted the ammo. And didn't want to go look for them cheaper. I truly do not understand their reasoning. The 22s I have accumulated now were all bought a brick here and one there...generally at very good prices(as little as 2 1/2 cents each to as much as 4 1/2 cents over the course of the last 4 years...many at Wally World as they were as cheap as anyone. . the 1600 round boxes cost 3 1/2 cents a round. I didn't hoard or grab 'em all on the shelf and didn't quite realize how many I had. Anyone can probably afford 15-20 bucks once every two or three weeks. But you have to want to buy 'em...Remember going forward after this "shortage" if it does end.

I beg to differ.

If ammo makers didn't hold back production, the nation wouldn't be out of ammo.

Every single handgun round is sold out and has been sold out for almost a year. I seriously doubt "7 million new shooters" all bought every single box of ammo for every single type of gun. I can see a 9mm or 380 shortage as those are the mass majority of calibers new gun buyers would of purchased but 22lr there is no excuse for a shortage of.

Makers have been cranking that round out by the millions per month for the better part of 100 years. There's no reason to be out of 22lr in the United States unless the ammo makers all decided together to purposely cut production of it.

And given that numerous companies have come out in the latter half of 2020 and the start of 2021 admitting they purposely cut inventory of certain products in certain areas to prevent public access during " a summer of tensions "...I have no doubt ammo makers will eventually admit they were part of it too.

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Conspiracy theories abound...but as you say..I beg to differ. It isn't the extra 7 million who created ALL the shortage. This has happened before you know? It is the umpteen million regular shooters who saw all the stuff with the Covid and the election brewing that decided to buy what they could while they could...and don't forget...there is one less ammo company making ammo domestically. With Remington mostly gone there IS less ammo in the pipeline. That was not purposely driven by the manufacturer. I used to shoot a lot of Remington ammo primers wads and bullets(I had a few ties with the company years ago). I am lucky to have about 10,000 Remington 209 primers...my favorites. . Eventually the hysteria will die out over a period of time if the political climate doesn't affect things. Then those who didn't have the foresight to stock up such as the guy I sold 9mm ammo or those who pay a lot too much for 22s will all pretty much forget all about it... AGAIN. Blame your self...not the ammo companies. Not dissing you..just making a point. Cheap ammo was available last year and the one or two previously

Wrong.

This is just another panic cycle. Every so often the “Chicken Littles” among our community who failed to prepare ahead of time freak out when something happens (election, mass shooting ... etc) and start clearing out the shelves. Then people start seeing stores that are empty in certain calibers, and they panic and start buying armloads of other calibers. Before long, this behavior gathers momentum like a boulder rolling down a mountainside and we end up where we are now.

This behavior has only increased with the internet immersing us in tales from all over about empty shelves, so we in turn buy out everything local to us.

Then you get the serious panic buyers who max out credit cards buying multiple cases of damn near everything because they believe the **** they’re reading on the internet about “This is it! There isn’t going to be anymore available again!”

Combine that with the opportunists who swoop in to stores every day at opening to buy up everything in sight so they can resell it online or at shows to the gullible people who believe they have to have it at any price.

You get what is happening now. Again. Like it will again at some point after this scene passes and we return to normal pricing/availability.

The sad part is that most people will learn nothing from this once again, and we’ll be fated to repeat this over and over again.


Meanwhile, those of us that have been through more than a couple of these cycles have learned to keep a stockpile so these periods of panic don’t affect us. At all.

Hell, I might even unload some of my pile at these crazy prices. Collect my unexpected profits (I didn’t buy it to sell) from lead and turn it into gold/silver. Then when the panic buyers run out of money/credit/storage & the ammo situation returns to sane levels, I’ll simply rebuy what I sold.

If you’re smart, you’ll grab a seat and wait it out. Then just be prepared for next time.

Not sure why everyone here insists on ignoring the public statements being put out almost weekly by companies such as Walmart, Johnson & Johnson and others who have admitted they purposely withheld access to certain of their items in certain areas for 2020.

Why people keep insisting the 2020 ammo shortage is "just like every other shortage and you're just an idiot because you didn't spend 40 yrs stock piling" is a mystery to me because it's NOT been like every other shortage.

A normal shortage lasts a couple of months. Not an entire year.
Covid is not the reason because ammo and gun manufactures were given essential business status and were not hampered by the shut down orders.

A monkey can stand at a machine and push empty casings in to a hopper so it's not "we had to train new people to replace all the dead ones" excuse. It takes 3 days to "train" someone with even a 50 IQ to do basic production tasks. It's not a months long process. Days. A week at MOST.

Ammo manufactures purposely cut production and they will eventually admit to it or a disgruntled worker will eventually confirm it as "payback" for getting fired or something. It's why Walmart finally admitted to it because a corporate manager blabbed about their decision and Walmart had to do damage control.

Could this have something to do with the lack of stock on shelves? Gun sales boomed in 2020, with background checks hitting record highs as millions of people bought guns for the first time

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You guys showing and bragging about how much ammo you have on a public forum may wish you hadn’t someday.

Guys, no BS here . I know a guy that has 1 million rounds of rimfire ammo stashed away . Yes I said 1 million. And that’s just the rimfire stash, not counting what he has in centerfire ammo .
And the sad thing is he really is just a casual shooter . Yes he’s a hoarder. He’s been doing this for close to 40 years .
I feel like telling his wife to call me first the day he kicks the bucket .

Probably around 6000 rds various brands and types in including two 1400 round Remington buckets, cci minis and stingers. After that .22 shortage a few years ago i said im not going to get caught without any again , looks like i was right

Our WalMart had the Meat Eater 300 packs of MiniMags for $21.97 recently. Limit was two, so I bought two. Constantly searching.......

You are incorrect but I will not bother to convince you otherwise. Suffice to say I work at a range in MN and we have a number of Federal employees that shoot at our facility. They are running two 12 hour shifts 24/7 and this is just one brand of their product lineup. Millions of rounds of 22lr are created daily out of this one plant alone.

BTW, last Sat. at the Federal company store they had buckets of Champion 1375 rds at $104.99. Instore sales only. Yes, they run out quickly but all products show up on a regular basis.
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Two weeks ago my Scheels sold 800rds bulk for $49.
No need to sue the people that are making products that are the required equipment necessary for your hobby.
If and when this goes away, hopefully, lesson learned and an extra 10,000 rounds will get you over a hump in the supply chain.

Ok, clearly you’re much smarter than me.

How about I bow to your infinite wisdom and offer you a tribute ...

Instead of that $130/brick of .22lr that you just paid, I’d like to offer you a few bricks from my pile at the discounted price of ONLY $125.00 per brick.

Interested?

1. Back a few years the "great 22 shortage" lasted one full year.
I watched people stand in line for hours just to buy a brick of anything.
2. The China virus shut down ammunition and firearm manufacturing until manufacturers took the proper steps to protect their workers. NOTHING was produced until that was accomplished. Email Chris Killroy CEO of Ruger and he will give you an earful of facts.
3. Those "empty case pushing monkeys" you refer to are American workers doing their best to ensure you get somewhat consistent ignition at a reasonable price.
4. Walmart stopped selling most, and in some cases all ammunition, because of pressure from the boycott brigade.
5. If you have any evidence that ammo makers are conspiring to hold back on manufacturing, please let us all know.

Sorry for my rant and even sorrier that some people are venting because of lack of pre-planning or a poor purchase they themselves made.

Very hard to resist the temptation to sell at these prices. The only reason I don’t is I have a good idea what’s coming. The makers will get caught up when general panic dies down. I will be willing to bet that ammo will be more expensive and there is going to be a user tax on it, like gasoline.

As a VP of Remington told me in about 2012/13...the old retail will be the new wholesale and he was right about primers 22s and most ammo..there were of course sales that beat those prices...And not many realize it but when supplies come in from other places the US makers cut their prices to get the newbies out of the business. such as Browning S&W Activ and USAC.. The named ammo makers all quit selling when they could not compete...Cheap Russian Eastern European and Chinese is of course cheaper to sell but we know the quality of the stuff is usually not up to ammo made here. But as far as the rest..the pols we have now will probably tax ammo... just an everyday observation. Please no political comments!! The way things are shaking right now it looks like a few tough times coming. This Covid thing has hurt us badly. Maybe the people getting the vaccines will change things going forward

Really? Why is that? Personally, I have better things to be concerned about.

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“Plenty of rimfire” is a highly flexible concept. When I was running the rifle ranges of Boy Scout camps 30 years ago I had to plan on a minimum of a 500 round brick of 22 LR on a slow day and sometimes two bricks if things got real busy.

OTOH when I got mildly interested in Bullseye Pistol, a half a case of good target ammo (five bricks) would last me a season or two. Now that I’m just shooting occasionally, a bulk box of Federal Auto Match lasts me a loooong time. It’s all a matter of perspective.

Froggie

I have plenty for me, actually just discovered some more in a safe clean out, I forgot I had.

Traded 3 boxes of Auto Match to a guy at work for this Benchmade Bailout. He was happy, I was happy.

There is no doubt that 2020 saw millions of new gun owners join our ranks. But the VAST majority of those new guns sold were 9mm, .380 acp and 38 Special.

New gun owners were not buying .44 Mag or .41Mag or most of the other MAG rounds as their first ever carry self defense round/gun. They were buying the most common gun/round made.

That is 3 rounds of the 90+ possible handguns rounds you could of purchased.

So a shortage in one or all 3 of those rounds makes sense. It doesn't make sense for ALL THE REST. Especially for 22lr which has been made by the millions per month for 100 years.

That's a good start.......

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What? That's only like 2000 bricks. At .04/rnd that's only $40,000 worth of rimfire.
A woman at work dates a hoarder. She said he has an ungodly amount of guns and ammo. And the guy never goes shooting. Ever.