Smith & Wesson Forum

Go Back   Smith & Wesson Forum > >

Ammo All Ammo Discussions Go Here


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #51  
Old 12-02-2021, 06:37 PM
DUSTYDOGDAN DUSTYDOGDAN is offline
Member
What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing? What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing? What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing? What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing? What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing?  
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Idaho
Posts: 47
Likes: 354
Liked 68 Times in 23 Posts
Default I was never a fan back when the 40 came out.

But in 2008 or 2009 I found a 4006 LE trade in at Cabelas gun library and I fell in love with it. Then I started collecting S&W 2ND & 3RD Gens and have found locally a lot of very clean Like new in the box 40's and have bought everyone that came around. It seems like people bought 40's back in the early-mid 1990's just because it was the new hot thing but they never really went out and shot them. I have bought a CS40, 410, 410S, 4046, and a 4013 single stack.. and Cabelas had some of the M&P LE trade in in 40 the other day and it looks as if it was never issued and I like it a lot. I just wish I would have been buying more ammo for them over the years.

Last edited by DUSTYDOGDAN; 12-02-2021 at 06:41 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #52  
Old 12-02-2021, 08:45 PM
Univibe Univibe is offline
Suspended
What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing? What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing? What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing? What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing? What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing?  
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: TX
Posts: 1,471
Likes: 10
Liked 2,121 Times in 847 Posts
Default

For personal defense, .45 ACP and .40 S&W should never have been born. 9mm is all anybody needs.
Reply With Quote
  #53  
Old 12-05-2021, 10:39 AM
Mike, SC Hunter Mike, SC Hunter is offline
Member
What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing? What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing? What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing? What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing? What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing?  
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: In The Woods Of S.C.
Posts: 6,457
Likes: 8,816
Liked 9,188 Times in 3,305 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Univibe View Post
For personal defense, .45 ACP and .40 S&W should never have been born. 9mm is all anybody needs.
Opinions are like exhaust pipes........We all got one. And yours effects no one but you.
__________________
S&W Accumulator
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #54  
Old 12-05-2021, 12:24 PM
boatbum101 boatbum101 is offline
Member
What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing? What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing? What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing? What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing? What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing?  
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Pensacola,FL
Posts: 1,635
Likes: 3,649
Liked 916 Times in 486 Posts
Default

Traditionally handgun calibers renowned for fight stoppers & / or efficent killers of game have been large bore . Exception being the 357 mag which relies on velocity / expansion , which IMHO is best left for smaller game & felonious bipeds .
Reply With Quote
  #55  
Old 12-05-2021, 12:46 PM
double-dipper's Avatar
double-dipper double-dipper is online now
Member
What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing? What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing? What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing? What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing? What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing?  
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Kansas
Posts: 655
Likes: 1,803
Liked 1,048 Times in 418 Posts
Default

I don't believe they are "polarizing" at all!!!! Who said they were?? I think you're stirring the pot Mr. 40 Smollett Wesson.
Reply With Quote
  #56  
Old 12-05-2021, 01:14 PM
yeti's Avatar
yeti yeti is offline
US Veteran
What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing? What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing? What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing? What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing? What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing?  
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Illinois
Posts: 2,098
Likes: 2,634
Liked 2,397 Times in 1,002 Posts
Default

Ahhhh yes the 40S&W hate/curiosity threads. I will play along.

I know 40S&W isn't for everyone.
Shooting some factory loads (WWB165 immediately comes to mind) out of a light compact or a sub-compact platform can be...well...kind of harsh.
There are plenty of other good loads available thankfully and in a full size platform most of these are quite pleasant to shoot.
I shoot more 40S&W than anything and really like the balance of power & capacity. I was initially forced into adopting 40 short & weak for competition, but really have become a huge fan after many years of loading & shooting it.
The 40 has immense versatility (esp. if you roll your own) and can send 135gr or 140's slow or with impressive speed.
Push a 200gr like 45Auto or send 180's & 165's hot. 9mm cannot offer the bullet weights that 40 can. Load it up or load it down using a wide variety of powders.... all with more capacity than 45 & more punch than 9. 40S&W has versatility!

I always hear the comment that bullet design improvement has made 9mm more viable for SD. Yes, I think this is true.
Haven't the same improvements bolstered 40S&W's and 45Auto's terminal effectiveness as well?
I believe the answer is also, yes. Some folks don't like change. There are still plenty of choices.
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
  #57  
Old 12-05-2021, 01:29 PM
Erocksmash's Avatar
Erocksmash Erocksmash is online now
Member
What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing? What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing? What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing? What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing? What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing?  
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: SW Florida
Posts: 1,741
Likes: 3,051
Liked 2,523 Times in 852 Posts
Default

I myself have never really cared for 9mm, I've always had them, but I've always loved the .40s&w, bought and sold so many of them, 4 shorty 40s and a myriad of other manufacturers...

I was down to zero .40s then I got another barrel for my 4014/1013 conversion, after 1 mag of .40 is had to put .40s back in the stable so I got 3 more lol...

Love it or hate it, its just another caliber
Attached Images
File Type: jpg VideoCapture_20211127-185450.jpg (30.5 KB, 14 views)
__________________
This is the way....

Last edited by Erocksmash; 12-05-2021 at 01:30 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #58  
Old 12-05-2021, 06:11 PM
Benton Quest Benton Quest is offline
Member
What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing? What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing? What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing? What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing? What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing?  
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 205
Likes: 110
Liked 288 Times in 109 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by giants1 View Post
Is it true that for Glocks, .40 S&W wears out the frame, credible armorer reports of blowing up, and bend the locking block pins prematurely?
I didn't ever write this on a bathroom wall, but yes, Glocks in the 40 platform do have quicker parts wear...pin breakage and locking block breakage being top of the lost that I have personally seen. That said, it's not an overnight thing.

Handgun effectiveness boils down to one thing. Shot placement. Period. That said, a 9mm steered where it is supposed to go, works. A larger caliber that misses the sweet spot won't. Period.

For most shooters...Most that is, they steer a 9mm better than something that offers more flash and sizzle. Just facts. It's that simple.

I've carried 9mm, .40 and from time to time, .45...and never felt unarmed. However, I would never knowingly take any of them to a gunfight as handguns are nothing more than weapons of convenience.

And to blame the FBI for l this based on the black swan event that was April 11, 1986 is patently unfair. While there was much to be learned from that event, those boys played the hand that they were dealt.

In that instance, Jerry Dove sent a 9mm Silvertip into that dirt bag that killed him...but no one told the bad guy. It sometimes takes a bit too long to bleed out. If Dove had hit him with a 40, I can't really say 1 mm would have changed the outcome.

You pay your money and you take your chances.

Sent from my SM-A025V using Tapatalk
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #59  
Old 12-05-2021, 11:32 PM
LVSteve's Avatar
LVSteve LVSteve is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Lost Wages, NV
Posts: 14,648
Likes: 16,314
Liked 19,384 Times in 7,360 Posts
Default

40 S&W is a particular case with several things that set people off. Here's a few:

1) It's snappy in many guns.

2) It's loud at the range. (Yes, that's a problem for some shooters)

3) The case support issue alienated the reloader community, despite the fact the problem was with Glock.

4) Some developed an irrational fear of the caliber in any gun because of the case support issue.

5) More irrational fears: some felt it threatened their favorite caliber, be it 9mm or 45 ACP.

6) It's not 10mm.

As for the other "4" calibers, many feel that 45ACP is "too much" and it's "too old". Maybe it's the association with the 1911, a big heavy gun with the hammer cocked when you see one. Yeah, I know.
__________________
Release the Kraken
Reply With Quote
  #60  
Old 12-06-2021, 01:17 AM
Univibe Univibe is offline
Suspended
What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing? What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing? What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing? What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing? What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing?  
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: TX
Posts: 1,471
Likes: 10
Liked 2,121 Times in 847 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by johngalt View Post
There are a lot more 1911s in .45 than .40, and of course everyone knows the 1911 is the best auto pistol ever invented.
1911s and .40 have had problems. Slide goes too fast, leading to extraction issues. Both Colt and Kimber dropped them from their lines a long time ago. Much better luck in plastic guns.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #61  
Old 12-06-2021, 07:11 PM
TXbug's Avatar
TXbug TXbug is offline
US Veteran
What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing? What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing? What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing? What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing? What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing?  
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Texas
Posts: 39
Likes: 0
Liked 3 Times in 2 Posts
Default Why do people think the 9mm is so great?

I can't speak specifically for the .40 S&W. As already stated, there are psychological reasons such as in grained belief systems that come into play. People believe things and there is no changing their mind.

I am a retired local law enforcement guy with over 20 years of carrying a revolver. To me, a 9mm is nothing more than a .38 Special +P. Easy to handle, easy to shoot. I carried a .45 ACP Colt Commander off duty and when in plain clothes.

Recently the FBI changed back to the 9mm and almost everyone joined the parade. One reason given is that the 9mm is as effective as the .40 S&W and the .45 ACP in gel testing. The key phrase is "gel testing" not a human being high on adrenaline, PCP or other stimulants. Also, I hear about the advancement in 9mm bullets. Well, bullet design did not stop with the 9mm, did not concentrate only on the 9mm.

There are two reasons that the FBI went back to the 9mm. One, economics, 9mm is cheaper. Two, female agents and smaller agents with no prior gun experience had an easier time qualifying with it. To be an agent you are required to qualify. No qualify, no being an agent.

One more thing, way back when the FBI was using the .38 Special revolver, their official position was "the .38 Special is all law enforcement needs." The FBI has a history of changing calibers for their current rationalizations. Their current rationalization support the 9mm. It will change.
__________________
Lache pas la patate!
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #62  
Old 12-06-2021, 07:45 PM
Mike, SC Hunter Mike, SC Hunter is offline
Member
What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing? What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing? What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing? What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing? What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing?  
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: In The Woods Of S.C.
Posts: 6,457
Likes: 8,816
Liked 9,188 Times in 3,305 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by LVSteve View Post
40 S&W is a particular case with several things that set people off. Here's a few:

1) It's snappy in many guns.

2) It's loud at the range. (Yes, that's a problem for some shooters)

3) The case support issue alienated the reloader community, despite the fact the problem was with Glock.

4) Some developed an irrational fear of the caliber in any gun because of the case support issue.

5) More irrational fears: some felt it threatened their favorite caliber, be it 9mm or 45 ACP.

6) It's not 10mm.

As for the other "4" calibers, many feel that 45ACP is "too much" and it's "too old". Maybe it's the association with the 1911, a big heavy gun with the hammer cocked when you see one. Yeah, I know.
#2.........Ever fired a short barreled 357 or 44 mag?
__________________
S&W Accumulator
Reply With Quote
  #63  
Old 12-06-2021, 07:49 PM
Mike, SC Hunter Mike, SC Hunter is offline
Member
What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing? What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing? What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing? What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing? What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing?  
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: In The Woods Of S.C.
Posts: 6,457
Likes: 8,816
Liked 9,188 Times in 3,305 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Univibe View Post
1911s and .40 have had problems. Slide goes too fast, leading to extraction issues. Both Colt and Kimber dropped them from their lines a long time ago. Much better luck in plastic guns.
If what you said is so. Then why do ALL our 1911's in 10MM(which is a more powerful than the ( "more snappier 40") your quote. Work so well?
__________________
S&W Accumulator
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #64  
Old 12-06-2021, 07:54 PM
sigp220.45's Avatar
sigp220.45 sigp220.45 is online now
Member
What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing? What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing? What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing? What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing? What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing?  
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Colorado
Posts: 6,881
Likes: 22,844
Liked 26,466 Times in 4,177 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by TXbug View Post


There are two reasons that the FBI went back to the 9mm. One, economics, 9mm is cheaper. Two, female agents and smaller agents with no prior gun experience had an easier time qualifying with it. To be an agent you are required to qualify. No qualify, no being an agent.

One more thing, way back when the FBI was using the .38 Special revolver, their official position was "the .38 Special is all law enforcement needs." The FBI has a history of changing calibers for their current rationalizations. Their current rationalization support the 9mm. It will change.
Right about the cost, not so much about the female agents.

We had the .40 for twenty years. I was a firearms instructor for most of those years, and the females generally handled the .40 as well as the males. I never thought the .40 had much recoil.

Anyone who had trouble qualifying was offered a Glock 19 or 17. The 9mm was always an option for agents - before and after 4/11/86. I came onboard in 1991, and I was issued a Sig P226 in 9mm.

There is a lot of internet nonsense about the FBIís response to the Miami shooting. Mostly because the Bureau is a private place. Tactics, weapons, ammunition, and the culture changed drastically. Because the Bu released all the ammunition testing data, people sometimes assumed that was all we did.

The switch to the 9mm as standard issue was about money. If any agent wants to buy his own .40 Glock and carry it, it is still allowed. Not many do, though, and I expect before long the Bu will be all Glock 9mms.
__________________
I.M. Shirley Wright

Last edited by sigp220.45; 12-06-2021 at 09:54 PM.
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
  #65  
Old 12-17-2021, 03:49 PM
ACP230 ACP230 is offline
Member
What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing?  
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Michigan\'s Upper Peninsu
Posts: 3,308
Likes: 202
Liked 1,571 Times in 734 Posts
Default

IMO the answer to lots of ballistic questions is, "Remington .41 Magnum!"
Reply With Quote
  #66  
Old 12-17-2021, 04:30 PM
djohns6 djohns6 is offline
Member
What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing?  
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Louisiana
Posts: 459
Likes: 230
Liked 649 Times in 230 Posts
Default

I like the .45acp but have no love for the .40 S&W . That's just me . You do you .
Reply With Quote
  #67  
Old 12-18-2021, 01:29 AM
filmmaster filmmaster is offline
Member
What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing? What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing? What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing? What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing? What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing?  
Join Date: Dec 2021
Posts: 26
Likes: 0
Liked 4 Times in 3 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by otis24 View Post
I think the thing that has upset the apple cart so much in regards to calibers is the advancements in bullet designs. For the average shooter and/or CCW person, smaller calibers are good enough because new bullet and powder developments have closed the gap in caliber effectiveness. The .380, once considered very marginal for self-defense has now sold like hot cakes and fills the role of primary defense weapon for many.
when retailers can sell a semi auto in .380 for 2-400$ and the cheapest available snub nose 357 magnum from sw is going at 998$,,, there be a reason those wee lil guns are selling
Reply With Quote
  #68  
Old 12-20-2021, 04:55 PM
Smokester653's Avatar
Smokester653 Smokester653 is offline
Member
What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing? What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing? What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing? What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing? What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing?  
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: On the coast of South Car
Posts: 209
Likes: 5
Liked 86 Times in 38 Posts
Default I like the term prefer.....

I see a lot of people mistakenly use the term "hate' when they should be using the term "prefer". I prefer the 9mm because it works for me I shoot it well, the cost is manageable and the weapon I use I happen to really like. That doesn't mean I get to tell others that my caliber of choice is the wonder bullet and will stop a fella right where they stand even if it hits them in the little pinky toe. But I will say every since the .40 cal came out there's a group that just can't even stop talk about how pitiful it is. How it's a short and weak. But hey I've met people that say that can't stand tomatoes but slather ketchup on a hot dog and smile while they eat it.....
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #69  
Old 12-20-2021, 07:26 PM
Ruger Nut's Avatar
Ruger Nut Ruger Nut is offline
US Veteran
What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing? What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing? What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing? What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing? What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing?  
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Coonass Country, La.
Posts: 1,253
Likes: 225
Liked 449 Times in 277 Posts
Default

The .40 caliber round is my favorite.
__________________
How many guns are too many?
Reply With Quote
  #70  
Old 12-21-2021, 01:56 AM
STORMINORMAN STORMINORMAN is online now
Member
What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing? What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing? What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing? What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing? What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing?  
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Pacific NW
Posts: 1,107
Likes: 631
Liked 606 Times in 385 Posts
Lightbulb

Quote:
Originally Posted by ACP230 View Post
IMO the answer to lots of ballistic questions is, "Remington .41 Magnum!"
Six at a time, for the most part...

Cheers!

P.S. Is there a 41 Special out there, somewhere?
Reply With Quote
  #71  
Old 12-21-2021, 02:07 AM
.455_Hunter's Avatar
.455_Hunter .455_Hunter is offline
Member
What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing? What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing? What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing? What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing? What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing?  
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Front Range of Colorado
Posts: 873
Likes: 764
Liked 999 Times in 361 Posts
Default

.40 is a great round for civilians who possess a realistic daily threat matrix that seamlessly encompasses standard two-legged threats as well several hundred pound four-legged threats.
Reply With Quote
  #72  
Old 12-21-2021, 03:27 AM
Dfish1247 Dfish1247 is offline
Member
What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing? What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing? What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing? What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing? What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing?  
Join Date: Oct 2020
Posts: 109
Likes: 13
Liked 77 Times in 40 Posts
Default

I can’t think of a more versatile handgun caliber range. What other range can do from pest control to dangerous game duty, that includes the big five. I’m talking about factory supported cartridges, not a 500 mag cut down to 44 special length, or a 357 bullet in a 600 nitro length case.

The 40 caliber auto stuff in general recoils more than the 35 cal, heavier bullets, more powder, same size and weight firearm, you do the math. I’ll admit I can can follow up faster with a 9mm vs a 10mm, some people show no difference.

Everything aside, I don’t want to be looking down the barrel of anything.
Reply With Quote
  #73  
Old 12-21-2021, 09:06 AM
sikacz sikacz is offline
Member
What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing? What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing? What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing? What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing? What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing?  
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Houston
Posts: 177
Likes: 269
Liked 149 Times in 67 Posts
Default

The 40 has not been my favorite. I suck at shooting with it and have never bought a gun in that caliber. I handle most calibers below it okay and even 45acp. That said Iíve re-evaluated some other calibers and guns I havenít shot well. Iíve shot a S&W Airweight snubnose in 357 magnum, couldnít handle it at all. Now, Iím looking for a model 649 in 357 magnum, why, caliber versatility and I want to improve myself with a caliber and gun type that gave me trouble. LoL. I donít hate any caliber, just some I need more practice with.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #74  
Old 12-23-2021, 07:12 AM
agent00 agent00 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: klagenfurt (austria)
Posts: 72
Likes: 67
Liked 28 Times in 16 Posts
Default

I have got a neutral view of all the .40.caliber cartridges in theory I find the 40 &w, 41 magnum, 40 super and 400 corbon quite appealing and owning a 41 magnum revolver and .40 smith and wesson sig or Glock at some point in the future for my collection is also on my bucket list. Practically speaking the 40 caliber guns are not very relevant in Austria. Most target shooters use the 9x19mm luger and the revolver guys either use the 38 special or the 357 magnum. Law Enforment is also 9mm.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #75  
Old 12-23-2021, 10:19 AM
MP-5 MP-5 is offline
Member
What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing? What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing? What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing? What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing? What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing?  
Join Date: Jun 2020
Location: Texas
Posts: 147
Likes: 38
Liked 286 Times in 108 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Miami_JBT View Post
The more chamberings and guns, the better! Hell, I like .45 GAP and 9x18mm Makarov.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #76  
Old 12-23-2021, 11:02 AM
SmithNut SmithNut is offline
US Veteran
What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing? What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing? What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing? What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing? What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing?  
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 2,249
Likes: 0
Liked 4,867 Times in 794 Posts
Default

What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing?

Simple answer = Humans..... they can't help themselves....
__________________
.............SmithNut
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
  #77  
Old 12-23-2021, 11:42 AM
Univibe Univibe is offline
Suspended
What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing? What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing? What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing? What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing? What makes everything in the .40 Caliber range so polarizing?  
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: TX
Posts: 1,471
Likes: 10
Liked 2,121 Times in 847 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike, SC Hunter View Post
If what you said is so. Then why do ALL our 1911's in 10MM(which is a more powerful than the ( "more snappier 40") your quote. Work so well?
Kimber and Colt were putting .40 in their lightweight and standard weight guns, e.g. Colt Defender. These guns lacked the weight to handle the snappier .40


The big 1911s you speak of can handle 10mm because they are beefed up from standard Govt model spec. See the newer Delta Elite and Springfield TRP. You think that big dust cover on the TRP's frame is just to handle a heavy light? Nope, it adds weight and stiffness to the frame. Slide is heavy, too.

Note that the G22 was always just a G17 chambered for .40. But the gen 5 is wider and has a larger heavier slide, even at the expense of a great deal of holster compatibility. Glock has now done what Smith and HK did from the beginning: design the gun for the .40 cartridge.

These things matter.

Last edited by Univibe; 12-23-2021 at 11:44 AM.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
22 caliber range rod diamentions Toyman S&W-Smithing 4 09-15-2018 01:26 PM
BRNO makes a new gun and caliber Arik Firearms & Knives - Other Brands 11 07-15-2016 08:25 PM
M2 50 caliber range guns. Farmer17 Firearms & Knives - Other Brands 8 02-14-2016 05:45 PM
WTS/T Springfield Range Officer dual caliber tangohammerli GUNS - For Sale or Trade 1 02-03-2015 01:42 PM
Rounds, Time at the range and caliber ivanwi11iams The Lounge 27 05-03-2014 12:14 AM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3
smith-wessonforum.com tested by Norton Internet Security smith-wessonforum.com tested by McAfee Internet Security

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:22 PM.


Search Engine Optimisation provided by DragonByte SEO v2.0.42 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2022 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Smith-WessonForum.com is not affiliated with Smith & Wesson Holding Corporation (NASDAQ Global Select: SWHC)