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A real BARE load. I don't think I need those slugs...even for ol Grizz!! neat
concept and probably usable on elk and moose. Good video though.
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I don't think they make a shotgun heavy enough, for me to load it and
pull the trigger on that load.
I have shot a hunting, 1.5 oz payload of #4 lead pellets at a 4 Dram loading......................
I'll pass.
Mercy !!
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I have shot quite a few "elephant guns" as so many people call them. The 458 Win Mag being a small one. What many don't know, a 3" and 3 1/2" 12 gauge load in a fairly lightweight shotgun compared to heavy weight double rifles, the felt recoil is quite similar.
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I have shot quite a few "elephant guns" as so many people call them. The 458 Win Mag being a small one. What many don't know, a 3" and 3 1/2" 12 gauge load in a fairly lightweight shotgun compared to heavy weight double rifles, the felt recoil is quite similar.
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This is true. My elephant rifle, a Marcel Thys a 10 1/2lb sidelock in 458wm, 500grs at 2,135fps, was more pleasant than my Mossberg deer shotgun shooting 2 2/3” magnum slugs. At the range.
On elephants or Cape buffalo, zebra, bushbuck, a klipspinger and other game the Thys provided just enough recoil and report to confirm the rifle fired. On deer, same with the Mossberg.
Your focus on game is intense, on targets not so much.
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01-05-2022, 10:01 PM
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I would be interested in these 2.5 oz 12 gauge slugs if they are effective on jealous husbands and boyfriends.
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Back in the 1970s our LE shotgun qualification course required 10 rounds of 1-oz. slugs at targets from 25 to 100 yards. Remington 870 and Ithaca 37 riot guns. Absolutely brutal, bruised and tender for days afterward.
I would not willingly shoot that ammunition. I already know my orthopedic surgeon as well as I want to.
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Back in the 1970s our LE shotgun qualification course required 10 rounds of 1-oz. slugs at targets from 25 to 100 yards. Remington 870 and Ithaca 37 riot guns. Absolutely brutal, bruised and tender for days afterward.
I would not willingly shoot that ammunition. I already know my orthopedic surgeon as well as I want to.
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As did we with the metal folding stock 870s. Oh, to be young and masochistic again.
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Many years ago my Sgt. sent me to police shotgun instructor class with 3" slugs. We shot a bunch of them during that class. Every time I pulled the trigger, I wanted to kill him. By the end of that class, my shoulder felt like I had been run over by a truck!
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That is some serious thump. I can see a use for them in BIG bear country.
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I bet that sucker would loosen the fillings in your teeth when you fired it.
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I bet that sucker would loosen the fillings in your teeth when you fired it.
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I have shot skads of big bores over the decades. Nothing really bothered me except a 50 BMG in a 15 pound rifle. From the bench it would snap your head around with enough force that after only 10 rounds I was getting a terrible headache. I miss that little sweetie.
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I bet that sucker would loosen the fillings in your teeth when you fired it.
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I have shot skads of big bores over the decades. Nothing really bothered me except a 50 BMG in a 15 pound rifle. From the bench it would snap your head around with enough force that after only 10 rounds I was getting a terrible headache. I miss that little sweetie.
Viewing the video closely it looks like the slug is not stabilizing. A close up of the 2 shots at the vest near the end of the video, resulted in both misses. It appears that the slug is dipping at the rear and the nose angling upwards. Maybe it is just my failing vision.
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Since there are no Polar Bears here I won't be shooting any of those.
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I see no real purpose for this other than to have your orthopedist make more money and maybe to replace your shotgun prematurely. Personally I wouldn't use them - but that's just me.
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Since there are no Polar Bears here I won't be shooting any of those.
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I put that shell in the same class as a single barrel Ruger chambered in .416 Rigby. I'm not going to hunt anything that requires me to shoot either one. Larry
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Oh My ... my shoulder just turned blue looking at that slug ...
Shoulder is telling me ...Don't Be Acting the Fool !
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A fellow I knew pretty well let me shoot his 600 NE double gun. He asked if I'd like to shoot a second round. I told him no as the first round taught me a lesson I didn't think I would forget...ever! Course I was shooting at a target not a cape buffalo
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I have to admit that shooting a "Black & Blue" load is someting to remember
after the pain and swelling goes away and you can put a shirt on again, without help.....................
at least you know that you have been there and done that...........
and no one can take that awy from you.
I just wish that the scares on my eye brow would fanish from me shooting too heavy a loads when I thought that I was man enought to handle them !!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nevada Ed
I don't think they make a shotgun heavy enough, for me to load it and
pull the trigger on that load.
I have shot a hunting, 1.5 oz payload of #4 lead pellets at a 4 Dram loading......................
I'll pass.
Mercy !!
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They should do a 3.75 oz slug in a 3.5" 12 gauge shell.
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Other than the perceived entertainment value of blowing up a sack of concrete mix, I have to ask 'why'? At slug ranges it's hard to imagine anything being much more devastating on an organic target than the good old 1 oz. Foster cannonball. But hey, I like blowing up sacks of concrete too.
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I did notice that all shots out of the smooth bore.................
that the tip of that slug was always pointed in a upward direction !!
It might not do well hitting a target past 30 yards ?
As for the young ladys.......
they make me proud at the way they handled themselves.
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Why...........?
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