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Old 01-19-2022, 10:02 PM
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Recently got my first 9 mm gun. It's fun at the range but I have very few 9 mm rounds on hand. Have been waiting for prices to fall, but they seem to have bottomed out for now at $16.50 per 50 rounds of CCI 115 gr. FMJ.

Anyone expect a significant reduction in the next few months?

IMHO, it's more likely that the price will jump up significantly before we see a meaningful decrease.
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Best I have seen recently is $15 per box of 50 but had to but case qty of 1,000 rounds.
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My LGS had several different brands available the other day... The 115 GR FMJ ranged from $14.99 to $22.99 per 50 round box... Something may happen to cause it to bounce back up, but, as for now, I see it doing nothing but dropping...
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Take a look at the Norma website. Free shipping for 150$, frequent sales and a low baseline price on 115 and 124gr target ammo.
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Take a look at the Norma website. Free shipping for 150$, frequent sales and a low baseline price on 115 and 124gr target ammo.
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Can you give a link? I looked at Norma's website, but it only gives ammo specs, not ammo for sale.
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Can you give a link? I looked at Norma's website, but it only gives ammo specs, not ammo for sale.
Norma Shooting | In Stock Ammunition Ready to Ship
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A friend who's in good with a LGS just picked up 1K rounds for $300.00 so I'd suspect prices will come lower for the rest of us.
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Only recently became a 9mm handgun owner? Well then you deserve to have to pay a lot for ammo 😂
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Only recently became a 9mm handgun owner? Well then you deserve to have to pay a lot for ammo 😂
Ouch! But I deserved that.

For some reason lost in the fog of time I first went with .40 S&W and stuck with it to the exclusion of all other semi-auto calibers for a long while. As retirement got closer - with the opportunity to move to a state that allows concealed carry - I scoped out carry guns and purchased a small 9mm. Unfortunately, this was about two years after the low ammo prices of January 2020.

And if you must know (and if not I will tell you anyways) in January 2020 I had the foresight to stock up on ammo for the guns I had. For example, $11.99 per 50 rounds of .40 and free shipping when bought by the case. 😃
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Nothing magical about the 9mm Luger . It's big claim to fame used to be plenty of cheap ammo ... but that's all dried up . Inflation is causing prices to go up ...one year of economic programs in place with three more years of the same economic programs to go .
It's going to be a wild ride and I don't see anything changing .
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Recently got my first 9 mm gun. It's fun at the range but I have very few 9 mm rounds on hand. Have been waiting for prices to fall, but they seem to have bottomed out for now at $16.50 per 50 rounds of CCI 115 gr. FMJ.

Anyone expect a significant reduction in the next few months?

IMHO, it's more likely that the price will jump up significantly before we see a meaningful decrease.
Everybody starts somewhere so congrats on your first 9mm.. I've seen ammo as low as 14.99 (target ammo) in some shops and as high as 50.00 for fmj at the flea market. My advice is to go on one of the sites that does free shipping and buy some ammo now as the demand/market is fluid. The money you save waiting might well be money lost if you procrastinate. Bite the bullet (pardon the pun) and buy some ammo to put back as we never know what the future holds......
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Nothing magical about the 9mm Luger . It's big claim to fame used to be plenty of cheap ammo ... but that's all dried up . Inflation is causing prices to go up ...one year of economic programs in place with three more years of the same economic programs to go .
It's going to be a wild ride and I don't see anything changing .
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Actually it does have more than one claim to fame, like being the world standard NATO pistol and sub gun round At rifle range of 300 yds a 124 gr FMJ started at 1200 FPS or more arrives at over 800 FPS. I would bet that a lot of WW2 soldiers got a rude awakening when they thought they were out of harm’s way of the Nazi’s puny pistol ctg sub guns at a few hundred yards.
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Recently got my first 9 mm gun. It's fun at the range but I have very few 9 mm rounds on hand. Have been waiting for prices to fall, but they seem to have bottomed out for now at $16.50 per 50 rounds of CCI 115 gr. FMJ.

Anyone expect a significant reduction in the next few months?

IMHO, it's more likely that the price will jump up significantly before we see a meaningful decrease.

No, my buy in price for 9mm is $16.00

I just bought 10 boxes at that price and LGS has blazer brass brass for $15.99 so I’m trying to get more.


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I bought lead when it was dirt cheap. I pick up once fired 9mm cases from my club's range, the day after the local police dept. has a range day. Just before the pandemic I bought a whole bunch of cans of powder when it was on sale, free shipping.

I just finished a 2 day marathon casting 9mm boolits.

Basically, I have a lifetime supply of the above. I will need to buy primers in about 3 years. That's my only bottleneck.

At pricing of my current inventory, I load a box of 50 nines for about $2.50. If primers level out at $60 a brick, that will add another $1.50 to my ammo cost.

I realize that a few years ago everyone said 9mm is so cheap it doesn't pay to reload. I did it just because I like reloading. The only box of factory ammo I ever bought was in 1974 when i bought my first 39-2, and that box came with the gun.
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Its funny how most people on here ( in every ammo price thread) seem to be saying that the "inflation is only transitory"...

Good luck with that.
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I hope it comes down some more, I expect it to come down more. It's still twice what it should be or a little more than twice..
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I’ve looked at the change in 9mm low to high prices.

I bought cases of 9mm when it was $0.18/rnd for 115gr FMJ target ammo. I knew such prices could not last.

I did not buy when within a few months prices jumped to over $0.50 rnd, but I watched for the supply/price to change downward. During past scenarios, high prices last about a year, the downward trend then heads toward a price about 1/3 more expensive than the last lowest price. The drop is fairly fast at first, then slows down. The downward trend can last about two years, unless there is some unpredictable major fear mongering that crops up.

The pricing trend and your immediate/future needs dictate a comfortable price. I don’t ever expect to see my 9mm range ammo below 20/rnd again. Material cost increases and inflation have guaranteed that. So, I’m assuming the new lowest possible is $0.25/rnd. At that price I will buy cases.

However, the downward curve of prices from 50+ cents to 25 cents ea. falls dramatically at first, then more slowly. We saw 9mm prices stuck in the mid-low 40’s most of last year. Now mid-low thirties are here. I have bought some. My inventory is now at about 80% of what I like, but with my shooting, it will be down to 65-70% in a few months when 9mm gets in the high $0.20’s per round. That’s my next buy signal.

For you with no reserves, $0.32/rnd delivered to your door (Norma) would be my buy signal to lay in up to 50% of your total desired inventory, as you can afford it. Compared to $0.50/rnd a year ago, that’s not bad.

Smile every time you can get it for $0.27/rnd all in. Buy all you can, then “dollar cost average” your total purchases, and you will probably find you are shooting for <$0.30/rnd. My DCA is currently about $0.23/rnd.

Reloading is always a consideration, but it experiences many supply shortages during tough times. All in, for the ability to get you through an ammo drought, you will have $1,000 or more invested in equipment and supplies, you must have a clean, safe space for everything, and one thing almost all reloaders fail to add in to their costs is their time. There is time involved with acquiring components as well actual time at the bench.

I stopped reloading when my family time became a larger part of my life. Also my career took off, so my hourly time value increased and my free time decreased. When I stopped reloading, I figured my hourly time value was >$30/hr. Cost wise, reloading for cheaper ammo made no sense. Time wise, buying ammo made much more sense for me. It’s hard enough to get the time I like to go shooting. Reducing that time by having to load ammo to shoot sucks, for me.

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Reloading is always a consideration, but it experiences many supply shortages during tough times. All in, for the ability to get you through an ammo drought, you will have $1,000 or more invested in equipment and supplies, you must have a clean, safe space for everything, and one thing almost all reloaders fail to add in to their costs is their time. There is time involved with acquiring components as well actual time at the bench.
I've been a reloader for over 50 years. I started with a $9.95 whack-a-mole complete set. With a box of 100 primers and a can of Bullseye I was no more than 20 bucks out the door.

Certainly, if I had to start now I wouldn't. But all my equipment has been amortized many, many times over.

In those days it was a Saturday job, while the wife cleaned house and did laundry. After kids, it was a late evening job after the kids went to bed.

As a consulting engineer in my last gig, my hourly wage was more than I ever imagined possible. But the reloading time never took away from my work, it simply complemented it because it the most relaxing and enjoyable part of my day.

Now that I'm retired I look forward to several things.....shoosting on Tuesday, reloading on Wednesday and Spring and Fall vacations to a beach in a warm climate.
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In Williamsburg for a month or so with wife, hit an estate sale yesterday while she went into work, guy had tons of old oil cans I ended up buying, found some really nice British porcelain teacups I bought and in the back the guy had 5 cases of PMC 9mm 115gr fmj at 10 bucks a box, needless to say I got all 5 cases, about 10 oil cans I don't have, all the teacups and a brand new in box Michael Kors watch for the wifey.
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Actually it does have more than one claim to fame, like being the world standard NATO pistol and sub gun round At rifle range of 300 yds a 124 gr FMJ started at 1200 FPS or more arrives at over 800 FPS. I would bet that a lot of WW2 soldiers got a rude awakening when they thought they were out of harm’s way of the Nazi’s puny pistol ctg sub guns at a few hundred yards.
I didn't say it had only one claim to fame ... I said " It's biggest claim to fame was plentiful and cheap ammo " Don't put words in my mouth and brow beat me for saying something you said ...
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The CCI 115 gr I recently ordered (four boxes of 50) just arrived. If they cycle well in my gun I think I will get a case at approx. $16.50 per box
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LOL, experience. I NEVER buy me anything without getting her something. After all, how can she yell at me for spending when I'm handing her a MK bag or watch, or Gucci bag or whatever I find interesting?

I did make that mistake once when I had to rent a uhaul to bring home the ammo from an Estate sale, I was so thrilled at the treasure haul I'd made I totally forgot about the wife, it's a good thing we have spare bedrooms.
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LOL, experience. I NEVER buy me anything without getting her something. After all, how can she yell at me for spending when I'm handing her a MK bag or watch, or Gucci bag or whatever I find interesting?

I did make that mistake once when I had to rent a uhaul to bring home the ammo from an Estate sale, I was so thrilled at the treasure haul I'd made I totally forgot about the wife, it's a good thing we have spare bedrooms.
Oops. You momentarily forgot, “Happy wife, happy life.”

As far as the 30 Super Carry, I can see it eating into 380 sales, if the guns and ammo are available.
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Actually it does have more than one claim to fame, like being the world standard NATO pistol and sub gun round At rifle range of 300 yds a 124 gr FMJ started at 1200 FPS or more arrives at over 800 FPS. I would bet that a lot of WW2 soldiers got a rude awakening when they thought they were out of harm’s way of the Nazi’s puny pistol ctg sub guns at a few hundred yards.
While sitting here listing to the birds chirp and drinking coffee that may sound like a lot of power, in real life combat I'm not so sure about that.

In Jeff Cooper's red book he talks about meeting a former SS Officer who fought on the Eastern Front. He said in one battle he took 3 rounds to the shoulder from a burp gun and did not even know he'd been hit until later when he was cleaning up. Unless a small caliber pistol round hits a bone it highly likely to just punch through causing little damage.
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It's reasonably easy to find 9mm online at about $16.50/50, plus shipping. But there are still a lot of sites trying to get $25+ for 50. They'll end up eating those and the numbers will come down.
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In Jeff Cooper's red book he talks about meeting a former SS Officer who fought on the Eastern Front. He said in one battle he took 3 rounds to the shoulder from a burp gun and did not even know he'd been hit until later when he was cleaning up. Unless a small caliber pistol round hits a bone it highly likely to just punch through causing little damage.
Ah yes, personal antidotes from the great Jeff Cooper. Everybody knows that if it ain’t .45 then it won’t hurt you And everybody knows that a small caliber bullet that just punches completely through your upper body without hitting major bones is nothing to worry about ☠️ Any volunteers?
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One of Cooper’s profound pronouncements was about the handload he put together for his wife’s model 60 J frame snubby. It was a .38 spl load of 5.0 grs of Red Dot with the old Speer 160 gr half jacket soft point bullet. He claimed the velocity was 1,000 FPS out of the model 60 😂😂😂 I’d sure like to have some of that Red Dot!

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My advice is to go on one of the sites that does free shipping and buy some ammo now as the demand/market is fluid. The money you save waiting might well be money lost if you procrastinate. Bite the bullet (pardon the pun) and buy some ammo to put back as we never know what the future holds......
Yesterday I ran 50 rounds of the 9mm CCI 115 gr. FMJ through my small pistol. Operated fine and was accurate to boot. So I took your advice and bought 10 Bove’s at $16.50 plus about $25 shipping.

Now I can go to the range and shoot without worrying that I am down to my last box of ammo.
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Price per round of 9mm ammo depends on what brand and type of ammo. Take just 115 gr FMJ for example. Brass case is still around .30 or more. Steel case Russian, well, in the .27-29 range.
I don't use any steel case in any of my pistols. My preference is brass.
So, I think we are about as low as it is going to go. Or very close to it right now. I agree with CB3 post #17.
I have been through many of these so called shortages for a number of decades. And stocked up every time I saw it start to bottom out again.

So, now I don't need any for a few more years to come.

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I sure hope $16.00/50 to $16.50/50 is not going to be the new bottom price.

Sometimes I just don't feel like loading the 9mm and it's nice to just grab a few boxes and go to the range.
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I sure hope $16.00/50 to $16.50/50 is not going to be the new bottom price.

Sometimes I just don't feel like loading the 9mm and it's nice to just grab a few boxes and go to the range.
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at $10 a box I will buy the ammo for new brass and enjoy not having to load it.
I will wait until it hits $14.99 before I but factory ammo again
but , I'm cheap. ( Irish blood ? )

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I tried that line with my wife, she told me in no uncertain terms that I was just cheap.
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I bet $15 will be a floor for a little while with 9mm. At this point it makes more sense for manufacturers to start producing other rounds and sell them in the $20 to $25 range per box rather than keep flooding the market with 9mm. We'll probably see more 45 ACP, .40 S&W, .38 Special, .357 Magnum and all the other rounds become available and drop in price some before we see 9mm drop back into the $12.50 range.

.357 Mag is still selling for $.80 to $1 per round. .38 Special is $.60 a round If I was manufacturing ammo it seems like switching production over to those would be a more profitable option rather devoting resources for stuff that sells at half the price.

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I bet $15 will be a floor for a little while with 9mm. At this point it makes more sense for manufacturers to start producing other rounds and sell them in the $20 to $25 range per box rather than keep flooding the market with 9mm. We'll probably see more 45 ACP, .40 S&W, .38 Special, .357 Magnum and all the other rounds become available and drop in price some before we see 9mm drop back into the $12.50 range.

.357 Mag is still selling for $.80 to $1 per round. .38 Special is $.60 a round If I was manufacturing ammo it seems like switching production over to those would be a more profitable option rather devoting resources for stuff that sells at half the price.
I agree with you. My online sources of ammo are beginning to have more .380 and even 38 Special coming in now. Not a lot, but they have some. Lots of 40 S&W it seems. I feel the change over of calibers may have just begun recently.
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$16.00 for a 50 round box seems to be what the "on sale" price is settling to in my area.
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