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Old 03-26-2009, 01:53 PM
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Anybody have any experience with this? A gun shop owner in my area absolutely swears by it for pocket .32 and .380 guns as the best SD rounds. Very pricy though ie 45-50 for 20 rounds, and very light ie 45 grain for .380.
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Anybody have any experience with this? A gun shop owner in my area absolutely swears by it for pocket .32 and .380 guns as the best SD rounds. Very pricy though ie 45-50 for 20 rounds, and very light ie 45 grain for .380.
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Old 03-26-2009, 02:27 PM
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Very pricy though ie 45-50 for 20 rounds,...
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Old 03-26-2009, 03:35 PM
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Too light for caliber makes me very leary.
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RCHP or RCBD? RCBD is a maker of some "custom" handgun loads that used to garner attention. Never heard of the other.
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Old 03-27-2009, 08:30 AM
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RCBD is what I meant.
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Old 03-27-2009, 12:11 PM
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Snake oil most likely. QC seems problematic since bullet weights and even charge weights seem to vary significantly in a given box - at least that's been reported on in other RBCD calibers by members here and at other forums who've pulled them apart and weighed them.

There's a video online of someone shooting a pig with an NAA and some frangible "magic" bullets. They brag about how great it is, yet the pig ran quite some distance before it dropped, apparently bleeding to death. Wasn't a very big pig either.

My .32 is loaded with Wolf Gold (made by Prvi) FMJs, which run somewhat hot for .32ACP. I know what those are going to do - poke a hole. Frangibles are prone to not poking that hole deeply enough and leaving a shallow but nasty looking wound.
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Why mess with a outdated round like the RCBD. XRBR ammo is a new updated round for you Tacticool guys.

Xtreme Rabid Badger Rounds signal a paradigm shift in home defense and anti-terrorism ammunition. Utilizing the same state of the art technology that puts foam dinosaurs in those plastic capsules that dissolve in hot water, I've been able to enhance what would be otherwise boring hollowpoint ammunition with a rabid badger core. The exact process is like, totally secret and proprietary.

Upon striking the body of your target, a rabid badger is unleashed through a process that involves a lot of really hard to understand math and physics calculations, and possibly some magic. The resulting stopping power goes beyond devastating, and is actually completely unable to be measured. In every ballistic test conducted, the badger ate the gelatin block, and then quickly turned on the testers.

My cores use very expensive laboratory grade badgers that are 99.9% pure, and 100% insane with rabies.

The shock of a rabid badger bursting from a teammate's body and then going totally nuts adds a psychological warfare element unmatched by any other ammunition maker in the industry today. To further enhance this, I took a cue from the A-10 Warthog, and painted a scary face on each and every round.

Already in use by Elite Team Fighting and many other highly trained special operations forces around the world, XRBR rounds represent the zenith in small arms ammunition technology. Get yours today!"
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Old 03-29-2009, 07:54 AM
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Sign me up, hotpig!! I can't find any at Wal-Mart though.... Is there a super-secret distributor somewhere? I do have my decoder ring handy.
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I have photos and stories (involving a personal friend and the disasters I witnessed) that would definitely make you avoid RBCD like the plague.

It is utter ****.
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Old 03-30-2009, 05:37 AM
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I have photos and stories (involving a personal friend and the disasters I witnessed) that would definitely make you avoid RBCD like the plague.

It is utter ****.
How about some details on the disasters? This stuff is being sold like the second coming by one local gun shop. Some reviews I've read seem pretty good as far as SD, others say just overpriced snake oil, but no disasters.
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I had one box of RBCD .357 Sig. IIRC, it was around $40.00 for a box of 20. I fired a few rounds for function and accuracy; it seemed to have a comparable amount of recoil to other .357 Sig ammo, but it was noticeably louder, even with hearing protection. I would not want to fire it in an enclosed space without hearing protection. I fired one round at a steel target rated for .45 ACP FMJ; it left a gouge about 1/8" deep in the steel. I don't have either the gun or ammo anymore, but at the prices and its semi-custom status, I'd stick with something more proven and mainstream for a SD round. I can imagine a politically motivated prosecutor using the "commercially available ammo isn't good enough, you have to get custom killing ammo" argument if you have to use this ammo in a sd situation.
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Why mess with a outdated round like the RCBD. XRBR ammo is a new updated round for you Tacticool guys.

Xtreme Rabid Badger Rounds signal a paradigm shift in home defense and anti-terrorism ammunition. Utilizing the same state of the art technology that puts foam dinosaurs in those plastic capsules that dissolve in hot water, I've been able to enhance what would be otherwise boring hollowpoint ammunition with a rabid badger core. The exact process is like, totally secret and proprietary.

Upon striking the body of your target, a rabid badger is unleashed through a process that involves a lot of really hard to understand math and physics calculations, and possibly some magic. The resulting stopping power goes beyond devastating, and is actually completely unable to be measured. In every ballistic test conducted, the badger ate the gelatin block, and then quickly turned on the testers.

My cores use very expensive laboratory grade badgers that are 99.9% pure, and 100% insane with rabies.

The shock of a rabid badger bursting from a teammate's body and then going totally nuts adds a psychological warfare element unmatched by any other ammunition maker in the industry today. To further enhance this, I took a cue from the A-10 Warthog, and painted a scary face on each and every round.

Already in use by Elite Team Fighting and many other highly trained special operations forces around the world, XRBR rounds represent the zenith in small arms ammunition technology. Get yours today!"
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Old 03-30-2009, 12:01 PM
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To keep this as short as possible, my friend bought several (eight, I think) boxes of their ammo and within two weeks had two pistols damaged by case head failures using that ammo.

I was helping him chrono his ammo when the second event happened. It was the first round fired so I do not believe the gun was out of battery.

He sent back six boxes and (to their credit) RBCD refunded all his money. The remaining opened box held twelve rounds and I disassembled them to check the powder weight consistency. Each charge was measured on two different electronic digital scales. While I will never know what propellant was used (it sure looked like Titegroup), the weights varied from 12.2-gr to 12.9-grains.

And their bullets were, well... I'll let you decide....

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