Smith & Wesson Forum

Go Back   Smith & Wesson Forum > Ammunition-Gunsmithing > Ammo
Forum Register Expert Commentary Members List


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1  
Old 05-22-2009, 06:54 AM
Member
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Alabama
Posts: 2,205
Likes: 1
Liked 23 Times in 14 Posts
Default

I keep getting asked about this rumor. Obama supposedly proposing a law to make ammo expiration dates. I can't find anything "Official". Anyone have anything? Thanks.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 05-22-2009, 07:38 AM
Member
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Peoples Republic of California.
Posts: 679
Likes: 0
Liked 47 Times in 33 Posts
Default

It's noise. Some while back some idiot bureaucrat looked at the idea but they quickly figured out that it could not be done reliably. If you make ammo or components to go "bad" in say five years a certain amount of them will go "bad" in only five months. The gun haters love the idea to prevent citizen stockpiling, but it's not technically doable, (so far).
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 05-22-2009, 01:06 PM
Erv Erv is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 15
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

Same rumor went around when Clinton was in, nothing happened.
Rex
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 05-22-2009, 08:18 PM
Member
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Alabama
Posts: 2,205
Likes: 1
Liked 23 Times in 14 Posts
Default

I figured as much. Thats what I have been telling people who ask me, but I just wanted to follow up on it.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 05-23-2009, 09:44 PM
redlevel's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: GA
Posts: 3,690
Likes: 1,604
Liked 2,765 Times in 842 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by Erv:
Same rumor went around when Clinton was in, nothing happened.
Rex
That rumor is the reason I had a half-dozen ammo cans with nothing but primers in them when the current panic hit. Most of them have "1993" or "1994" dates on the box. I guess I can thank Clinton for making a hoarder of me way back then.
__________________
Georgia On My Mind
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 05-24-2009, 02:33 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 17
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

Actually this is much more likely than people think.

The motivation will be the environment. Current long life primers contain the element "Lead" and other heavy metals. The "Greens" see this as a bad thing. (note the California Lead ammo ban).

Lead free primers have a shelf life estimated to be approximatly 10 years. Certainly longer than the five years quoted, but enough to stop people from stockpiling
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 05-24-2009, 03:04 PM
Smokester653's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: On the coast of South Car
Posts: 197
Likes: 4
Liked 60 Times in 28 Posts
Default

Are you kidding me? Why do these posts keep coming up? Do people actually believe that kind of ****?
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 05-24-2009, 03:45 PM
US Veteran
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: The Rust Belt Buckle/Mich
Posts: 2,404
Likes: 0
Liked 13 Times in 9 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by Smokester653:
Are you kidding me? Why do these posts keep coming up? Do people actually believe that kind of ****?
Do you believe that there is an element in our government that wants to disarm us?
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 05-25-2009, 05:07 AM
Smokester653's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: On the coast of South Car
Posts: 197
Likes: 4
Liked 60 Times in 28 Posts
Default

There is always a chance that our rights may be taken away. Do I sit around and develop an ulcer worrying about it..No! I have many guns and plenty of ammo to last a while. What kills me is when a rumor goes around that sounds ridiculous and people actually believe it. Especially the ones that go over and over again. Stop listening to Wal-Mart employees and "know it alls". There will always be an "element" out there trying to take away everything from fast food to ammunition. Think about the "fat tax" that politicians have tried to institute. How about a tax on soft drinks have you heard that one?
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 05-25-2009, 05:21 AM
US Veteran
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: The Rust Belt Buckle/Mich
Posts: 2,404
Likes: 0
Liked 13 Times in 9 Posts
Default

While this thread is the first I heard anything about perishable components, and I didn't believe it, stranger things have happened. If the environmentalist wackos can so badly skew american oil produstion, refining and auto fuel standards, lead free primers would be at least as easy to foist on the american public.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 05-25-2009, 07:12 AM
Member
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Alabama
Posts: 2,205
Likes: 1
Liked 23 Times in 14 Posts
Default

Smokester,

Personally, I don't worry myself to the point of ulcer. But I am cautiously alert to things I hear these days, especially from the current administration we have in control. Nothing would surprise me that could be attempted, although the question posed by this thread to me was somewhat over the top. I do have people that respect my opinion as well the information I give them on issues about firearms and the 2nd Amendment. If anything, I owe it to them to give correct information so they may act on it accordingly as they choose.

If you choose to ignore things you hear, it's certainly your right. But please, don't not ridicule those of us who seek clarification on issues that have to deal with our freedoms. I just wanted to find out if there was possibility that this could occur. To sit and wait and see if it's true or not could result in "too late to do anything about it".

I do thank you for your opinion however.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 05-25-2009, 07:56 AM
Smokester653's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: On the coast of South Car
Posts: 197
Likes: 4
Liked 60 Times in 28 Posts
Default

Sorry, I did not mean to ridicule anyone on this thread. I also watch things closely as well (how do you think I know about fat taxes). It just seems that when things are far fetched people still run with it. And I also feel that people will throw things out just to see what happens. Remember preparation is the key with everything.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 05-25-2009, 08:14 AM
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 17
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

I can not help those who refuse to see, but as of two days ago, there was an "Army Times" article detailing the effort to produce a "Lead free" ammunition.

Why?

Because it is environmentally sound. The current article refers to 5.56mm, M-855A1 ammo to be used in M-16 type rifles.

Consider, this is not some fringe group internet publication, this is the U.S. Army's site.

Alarmist, perhaps, but REAL.


BTW, the ammo being developed does not use a "Lead free" primer.

Why?

Reliability and shelf life issues.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
model 16, primer

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
Ammo Thread, ammo/primers expiration in Ammunition-Gunsmithing; I keep getting asked about this rumor. Obama supposedly proposing a law to make ammo expiration dates. I can't find ...
LinkBacks (?)
LinkBack to this Thread: http://smith-wessonforum.com/ammo/75946-ammo-primers-expiration.html
Posted By For Type Date
Short Lived Primers - Aldeer This thread Refback 01-07-2013 12:46 PM

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Speer Ammo Primers CrossRifles2008 Concealed Carry & Self Defense 4 03-21-2011 11:32 PM
Bullet lube expiration? shil Reloading 1 11-14-2010 10:47 AM
old school ammo, primers, and .22 jet bullets rrent S&W Revolvers: 1961 to 1980 3 10-19-2009 08:10 AM
primers and hand gun ammo Leeroy151 The Lounge 4 03-27-2009 07:27 AM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3
smith-wessonforum.com tested by Norton Internet Security smith-wessonforum.com tested by McAfee Internet Security

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:10 PM.


S-W Forum, LLC 2000-2013
Smith-WessonForum.com is not affiliated with Smith & Wesson Holding Corporation (NASDAQ Global Select: SWHC)