Just thought I'd ask, tryed the search function and didn't turn up much. In these parts we just shoot what ever is on sale, when the sage rat season kicks in. I'm curious on what you use for match, plinking and hunting? More recently I have been using American Eagle 38 gr hollow points, gone thru a brick and no duds. What do you guys use? Pigman

cci stingers

Remington Golden Bullets. I actually think they're ****, but my NAA .22 lr. mini thinks they're the greatest ammo ever made.

The two that work best in my .22s are: Winchester Super-X and Federal Auto Match.

I've had terrible experience with bulk pack Remington, especially their golden bullets.

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CCI standard velocity

Remington used to be ok years ago, now it is horrible.

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My 22A prefers federal bulk for plinking ......... I get a lot of duds with winchester bulk.

It used to be Federal bulk, after having given up on Remington bulk because of the high percentage of no fires. But last week I took a new shooter to the range, and started him out with a 100 or so of various .22 rounds, then opened up a new box of Federal bulk. The miscellaneous rounds worked great, but the Feds all were hard to extract, and the rims seemed to be "ballooned" outward. I'm perplexed. This was in my S&W M18, which for 35 years has had no issues. Something is wrong with that Federal bulk.

It seems something is wrong with every maker's ammo these days.

Stiab, I did notice that occasionally with my mod 17, the extraction of shells that is,(couple dozen rounds) with the Fedral, but the last time out with the same ammo I had no problems at all and in a Ruger 10-22 no problems at all. It didn't stop me from picking up 4 bricks of the stuff, Americam Eagle I believe is Federal.And I sure like how the stuff shoots, I guess that what prompted my question. Thanks for the input fellas.

None of my .22s have any problems at all digesting a steady diet of Winchester Wildcats.

For pure accuracy in my heavy barrel 10-22 and most of my pistols, CCI Green Tag. I also use it for whacking the occasional little critter. I also like CCI Stingers, as well as CCI Mini-Mag HPs. The Mini-Mags are almost as accurate as Green Tags in many guns.

I don't use Remington if anything else is available, since I've gotten more misfires over the years with it than all other brands together.

Federal "Bulk" is likely made by a subcontractor these days. Doesn't sound promising, though. I've always had good luck with most all Federal ammo, AE and otherwise, rimfire and centerfire. I just prefer CCI in rimfire.

My model 17 likes the PMC I got from the CMP in 2007. I bought 10k of the stuff.

CCI Mini-Mags for me.

Eley Match if I really feel like opening up the pocketbook.

Eley Subsonic HP
W-W Power Point
W-W Subsonic HP

I’m not a target shooter or hunter so my needs are pretty basic.

I shot Federal 550 Walmart Bulk Pack in my Spikes AR-15 .22 RF upper today. They are recommended by Spikes and they run the gun great. Every once in a while I get one that sounds a little under powered, but none have stuck in the barrel.

Most people say the Remington Golden Bullet 550 bulk packs are lousy ammo. I shoot the heck out of in my K22 3rd model, and for the life of me I don’t think I’ve had a dud through many thousands of rounds. Seems like I get some duds when I shoot them in my 10-22 though. I’ve bought tens of thousands of Remington’s at BiMart for $10 bucks a box. I’ve bought tens of thousands of Federals too.

I still have a stash of several thousand Remington Vipers that shoot to point of aim in a fixed sighted Ruger Single Six that I save for that gun. Bought 5000 Blazers ($100) the other year right before ammo went up. I’m cheap but have to ammo that works. I’ve got a few thousand Winchester Wildcats that I’ll have to be real desperate to shoot, I dunno, maybe they’d be tolerable in my 9422.

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I was shooting the federal 550 bulk packs but my 41 likes blazer much better. My 1022 target likes the old PMC target that I bought years ago
I have a Kimber 82 That likes the Wolf Match I get groups under an inch at 100 yards when I read the wind right

CCI Mini-Mags

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Sir, sometimes your gun will tell you. For example, my mid-'50s K22 does best with Winchester T-22, though CCI Green Tag is a close second. Anything high velocity tends to stick cases in the chambers and usually isn't as accurate as the standard velocity stuff.

On the other hand, my Buckmark feeds and shoots accurately with everything I've ever fed it, even some old Peters "el cheapo" that I bought nearly 20 years ago.

I guess the rule is, "There are no rules."

[shrug]

Hope this helps, and Semper Fi.

Ron H.

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.22's are finicky, simple as that.

That's why you need to have several, so that you can use that bulk packed ammo in something, even if the gun you bought it for is inconsiderate and can't shoot it well....

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I get a lot of duds out of the remington bulk ( at least 1 or more per magazine on my last range trip ) in my 22a. Federal bulk works best in mine. The value of the remington isn't much of a value when you have to throw at least 1 out of every 10 away. Not to mention that I hate clearing the ones that don't go off.

Federal bulk pack. I get a few duds now and then but my 41 likes it just fine.

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I've had good luck with Federal Champion 40gr solids.

Don't buy the Remington Thunderbolt stuff. It's terrible. One shot sounds like a low velocity 22, the next, a cb, and the next, an air rifle. A couple of times, I actually had to clear the weapon and make sure the bullet even made it out of the barrel. The recoil and noise was that low at times. I had one fail to ignite also.

I prefer Winchester Power Point but am going to try Federal American Eagle for a less expensive alternative for plinking and save the PP for hunting. Oh, no duds with PP in I'm not sure of how many cases....not cartons....cases...as in 5000!

Model 41 shoots CCI Blazers much more accurately than I am. Ruger Mk II only likes WW Wild Cats, and S&W Walther is amazing wih Federal Auto Match bulk. Each 22 has its own special needs.

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CCI Mini-mags have always done me good. I recently picked up some Federal AE in the 38 gr that I've heard good reports on. Sage rats beware, I coming lookin' in a couple months.

You need to shoot several brands through your gun to check for accuracy and reliability and stick to that particular brand. I have 8 .22's and they all like there own brand of .22 ammo

I have been trying several brands of 22 ammo since I asked this question about 22's, and I have to say CCI does seem to be a premium type bullet, yet it is expensive, the american eagle(federal) In my opinion seems to be federals better quality 22, although the bulk pack federal I have had very few problems. Last weekend my son and I broke out a brick of winchester wildcats I've had tucked away for probably 15+ years and he had nothing but off and on problems with it in his 10-22, and that was within about a 200 round span, we are looking forward to burning it up. As far as accuratcy it seems what every my 16 yr old shoots he is dead on, must be those young eyes!!!My Steoger luger really likes the CCI best, and my Smith 17 is dead to nuts with the american eagle. The fedral 22's seem to be popular in my area, due to thats what everybody has on sale, Sure have enjoyed everyones input, Thanks Pigman

Whatever's available cheap!

I prefer Federal, then Remington, but haven't bought any in a long while, so I don't know if recent batches have been unreliable.

I can shoot Winchester ammo, but prefer not to, as I have found it to be absolutely filthy, and cruds up my guns like nobody's business.

Winchester Power Point all the way! It may be a little more expensive but it shure does a number on the gophers. Also my Walther P-22 does not like the underpowered cheaper stuff like American Eagle.

Stoneman, I wouldn,t mind trying some of the winchester power point, I was wondering what makes you think the american eagle is underpowered? I'll be darned if I can tell the diff between some ammo other that the way is functions in the gun. If there are higher powered 22's out there I sure would like to try them. Pigman

I mostly use CCI Standard Velocity, Part #0032.

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I've been using the federal bulk hollow points
for plinking.
CCI mini mags if I want a better quality.
Also have been using some of the Federal 40
grain ball that comes 50 a box.
The 10/22 that I'm using now isn't too picky.
I haven't used stingers in it though.
In theory I can, being it's a sporter barrel,
and should be able to handle them ok.
But I haven't tried them yet.
I used to use them quite a bit back when I was
using a model 60.
The mini mags seem to work well in the 10/22,
and are probably about my favorite for that
rifle. The bulk is pretty reliable in it, but
I'll get a slow ejector every once in a while.
I notice it more if the rifle is kind of dirty.
Clean, I don't have much trouble with any of
them. IE: the last 550 pack, I shot 300-350
rounds before I started seeing a few eject
problems. By then, it's getting a bit dirty,
and think it makes it more prone to the problem.
I've never had a single malfunction using the
mini mags yet.
I've never had a no fire with the federal bulk.
Just some may be a tad weak every once in a
while, and I think that helps cause the eject
problem. The shell will be slow getting out,
and the fresh round rams it up against the
back of the chamber. Usually crimps the empty
shell a bit.

Have a few bricks of Federal 550 bulk, and a half-case of Eley match that I found on sale. I have yet to shoot the Eley because it's listed as mildly corrosive and I'm not always the best about cleaning after a range trip.

Hi....I shoot standard velocity in revolvers, and high velocity in rifles. Prefer Winchester.
Sometimes trying to eject six fired HV cases from a revolver is difficult due to case expansion. In rifles, ejection is one-at-a-time, so no difficulty with HV rounds. BT

I shoot Aguila,CCI and Winchester in my Revolver -

SSS SNIPER SUB. 60GR SP - Muzzle Velocity:950 fps. - 120 ft. lbs.
CCI - Velocitor 40gr. GDHP - Muzzle Velocity:1435 fps. - 183 ft. lbs.
Winchester -
Bulk 333 box 36gr. Plated Copper HP - Muzzle Velocity:1280 fps. - 131 ft. lbs.

I shoot the following in my Rifle -

Aguila -
Interceptor 40gr SP - Muzzle Velocity:1470 fps - 192 ft. lbs.
High Velocity 38gr. Plated lead HP - Muzzle Velocity:1280 fps - 131 ft. lbs.

CCI -
Velocitor 40gr. GDHP - Muzzle Velocity:1435 fps. - 183 ft. lbs.

Winchester -
Bulk 333 box 36gr. Plated Copper HP - Muzzle Velocity:1280 fps. - 131
ft. lbs.

My "gold standard" is the CCI Mini Mag.

Substitute standard is the Winchester Wildcat.

For serious target use in a boltgun, Wolf Match.

Substitute standard target use: Fiocchi Subsonic.

Noah

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Like it has been said before: a lot of it depends on the gun that you are shooting it.

I have a Walther PPK/s that is chambered in 22LR. I never made it through a magazine without some sort of a jam. Then while at Bass Pro shops one day, I bought 4 boxes of CCI Mini-Mags. I started shooting with no failures until I begain wondering at what point it would fail. Four hundred rounds later - no failures.

I do not use them in my good guns (S&W 41, Pardini, Benelli,...), and I cetainly wouldn't shoot Stingers in them.

In general, I, like a lot of others, have found the standard velocity ammo to be more accurate. This is especially true with some of the top-shelf stuff. However, there have been exceptions.

I bought a Remington 597 from Academy for less that $100 when it was on sale. Being half asleep when I left for the range, I forgot to grab a selction of 22 ammo. No problem, I had a couple of boxes of Wolf Match in the bag. I wanted to shoot the gun, so I tried it with the Wolf. It was terrible. I handed it to the Range Officer (I knew him well), along with some of my comments, which I can't repeat here.

He took it apart, floated the barrel with a shim, and finally brought it down to me (I was shooting something else on the pistol range). With a big grin he handed me the rifle and the ammo, along with a handfull of "golden bullets". He remarked: "Cheap guns like cheap ammo, it just can't digest that high dollar stuff".

Incidentally, the problem I had with the 597 was grouping. There weren't any failures to load or jams.

My 34-1 snub has had ejection problems with certain ammo due to expansion and works best so far with Federal bricks and the Taurus 94 4" eats anything but I am still experimenting. Remington bulk is the worst for duds.

Wolf Match (Made in Germany) has been remarkably accurate for me, but there are only three semi-auto rifles in my stable that will cycle it -- an old Remington 552 Speedmaster, a Mossberg 151K, and a High Standard A102 Carbine.

With the proper recoil springs, Wolf Match will cycle in my S&W Model 41s.

Noah

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+1.

When I still had that stuff, I was averaging about 3 duds per 100. They were dead duds, too. After waiting for several minutes I'd wipe them down and try them again -- definitely dead.

Noah

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One of the supreme joys for me of shooting 22s is the quest for the right ammo. Over the years, I have found preferences abound for CCI Mini Mags - solid and HP, Win Super X HP, Wolf Match [or ditto SK Std +] and CCI Blazer. One rifle, a 10-22, loves old Rem Golden.

The search for 'best' 22 ammo [i.e., having the least cost/greatest benefit] in a given arm is splendid fun.

Cheers,

Dyson

Amen to that, Dyson! I've got a giant pile of different .22s that I try through new guns. Every gun has its preference, that's for sure.

In days of yore, I used Remington green box target. It doesn't seem to be of the same quality nowadays that it was in the '80s.

For plinking, lately I have been very pleased with the consistency of the Federal AutoMatch bulk 40-grain RNLs in the 325-round box. It's been remarkably reliable and of perfectly decent accuracy.

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+1! They're not cheap, but they're the only thing my Browning Buckmark really likes.

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Whatever provides reasonable accuracy and reliablity in the particular firearm.
One ammo may provide perfect reliability and accuracy in one gun and be horrendous in the next gun, even in the same make and model of gun. I often buy 2 of any gun that I like, so this comes up a lot more than you would think when it comes to RF firearms. Forces me to keep all kinds of RF ammo. I probably keep at least 15 different kinds for different guns. A big PIA, but necessary.

Anything I can find!

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I like fedral bulk & winchester they work good in all my guns

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For bullsye pistol shooting from either my PArdini SP Walther GSP I prefer Wplf Match Target or SKJagd [istol match. For practise in these smae guns i use Aguila SE.
For general plinking with my 22 conversion units I use either the Aguila SE or if the unit requires a HV round then Federaal copper washed bulk pack or Remiongton Golden Bullets - for serious work with these same unitys I opt for CCI Mini Mags.

CCI Mini-Mag 40 grain CPRN. Cost a little more, but in 1000's of rounds never an issue.

My Ruger single six will eat anything with no problem.....however my Browning SA .22 that is about 45 years old, does best with CCI Minis, PMC Moderators, which are sub-sonic, and Fiocchi HP or CRN.

I don't use my .22s for anything other than plinking. Honestly, whatever is cheapest is what I buy. I often end up with 40 grain LRN Remington Thunderbolts. My local gander mtn. has had .22s in stock constantly.

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