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Old 01-17-2009, 03:58 AM
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http://www.theoutdoorwire.com/tow_release.php?ID=138783

Fiocchi's Shooting Dynamics line encompasses a wide range of pistol and revolver caliber offerings encompassing lead round nose, full metal jacket, jacketed hollow point, full metal jacketed hollow point, and jacketed soft point bullets. This incredible variety of product offerings has made this line a favorite of shooters for more than twenty-five-years. Fiocchi, never resting on its laurels, continues to develop and improve upon its Shooting Dynamics handgun ammunition products with the goal of achieving the ideal synergy between shooter, firearm and ammunition. And the addition of the new Fiocchi 9mm Luger 158-grain, full metal jacketed subsonic round is certainly a welcome addition and achieves that goal.

Developed for the high volume shooter, Fiocchi's popularly-priced new 9mm Luger subsonic round, just like all of the ammunition products in the Shooting Dynamics line, takes no back seat when it comes to performance.

Fiocchi's 9mm Luger subsonic round leaves the muzzle of a 5-inch barrel at 940 fps, well under the sound barrier, while generating a powerful 309 ft./lbs. of energy. At 50 yards, the bullet loses little momentum while generating 893 fps velocity and 279 ft./lbs. of energy. At 100 yards, this quiet performer still produces 852 fps velocity and 254 ft./lbs. of decisive energy.

For more information on Fiocchi's new 9mm Luger 158-grain, full metal jacketed subsonic ammunition or Fiocchi's full line of rifle, pistol, rimfire, shot shell and unique rounds contact: Fiocchi Ammunition, 1662 Nevada Way, Boulder City, Nevada, 89005 • 702-293-6174 • or visit www.fiocchiusa.com.
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http://www.theoutdoorwire.com/tow_release.php?ID=138783

Fiocchi's Shooting Dynamics line encompasses a wide range of pistol and revolver caliber offerings encompassing lead round nose, full metal jacket, jacketed hollow point, full metal jacketed hollow point, and jacketed soft point bullets. This incredible variety of product offerings has made this line a favorite of shooters for more than twenty-five-years. Fiocchi, never resting on its laurels, continues to develop and improve upon its Shooting Dynamics handgun ammunition products with the goal of achieving the ideal synergy between shooter, firearm and ammunition. And the addition of the new Fiocchi 9mm Luger 158-grain, full metal jacketed subsonic round is certainly a welcome addition and achieves that goal.

Developed for the high volume shooter, Fiocchi's popularly-priced new 9mm Luger subsonic round, just like all of the ammunition products in the Shooting Dynamics line, takes no back seat when it comes to performance.

Fiocchi's 9mm Luger subsonic round leaves the muzzle of a 5-inch barrel at 940 fps, well under the sound barrier, while generating a powerful 309 ft./lbs. of energy. At 50 yards, the bullet loses little momentum while generating 893 fps velocity and 279 ft./lbs. of energy. At 100 yards, this quiet performer still produces 852 fps velocity and 254 ft./lbs. of decisive energy.

For more information on Fiocchi's new 9mm Luger 158-grain, full metal jacketed subsonic ammunition or Fiocchi's full line of rifle, pistol, rimfire, shot shell and unique rounds contact: Fiocchi Ammunition, 1662 Nevada Way, Boulder City, Nevada, 89005 • 702-293-6174 • or visit www.fiocchiusa.com.
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Old 01-17-2009, 06:43 AM
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I seriosly doubt that expansion is reliable and 309 fpe leaves me yawning. That load sounds like the answer to the question no one is asking.
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Old 01-17-2009, 07:49 AM
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Might be a good training load for beginners. Reasonable recoil and noise.
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Old 01-17-2009, 10:04 AM
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Sounds like it is intended for use in suppressed guns.
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Old 01-18-2009, 04:04 AM
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Pretty dopey to not have prices on the stuff?
It helps to know how badly you are, or aren't being boned by a supplier?
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Old 01-19-2009, 08:51 AM
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$14.49 a box here.

http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/catalog1/product_info.php...o/cName/9mm-fmj-ammo
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Old 01-19-2009, 11:12 AM
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I seriously doubt that expansion is reliable...
Please note that the round is question is a FMJ, not a JHP.

Could be a useful round for when maximum penetration is desired, such as a hiking gun.
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Old 01-19-2009, 02:44 PM
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I seriously doubt that expansion is reliable...
Please note that the round is question is a FMJ, not a JHP.

Could be a useful round for when maximum penetration is desired, such as a hiking gun.
Yes, I guess that one won't expand very well will it. (rolleyes at my own brainfart). I'll be curious to hear from anyone who's used that ammo. It seems like it would result in low slide velocity/lack of reliability perhaps?
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I went thru a box of their .40 fmj today and shot great no problems... Sigma .40
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Old 01-21-2009, 07:24 AM
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UZI brand had some of this 158-gr 9x19 stuff out in the late '80s, and I shot some because I got a deal on it. Not real fast, that's for sure.
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I hold with the "suppressor" crowd...my experience was also with an UZI...sonic rounds sound like a string of small firecrackers coming out
the supressor, at sub-sonic you just hear the bolt cycling "tink, tink, tink" and the bullets making a firm "plop, plop" as they impact the ground. Maxing out the bullet weight is about the only way to wring-out any energy, as 950fps is about max sub-sonic velocity at sea-level...that
supresser was about two feet long...I've always got kick out of movies where the villian is running around with a stogie-sized "silencer" on a
revolver...Jack
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158 round nose, 940 fps? They've reinvented the old 38 special lrn that was such a proven non-stopper!
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Old 01-24-2009, 07:11 AM
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158 round nose, 940 fps? They've reinvented the old 38 special lrn that was such a proven non-stopper!
That's pretty much the point I was trying to make in my first post. You just articulated it better.
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Old 01-24-2009, 11:58 AM
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158 round nose, 940 fps? They've reinvented the old 38 special lrn that was such a proven non-stopper!
lol, that's what I was thinking.
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Old 01-25-2009, 08:27 AM
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Sounds like it is intended for use in suppressed guns.
ditto...

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I hold with the "suppressor" crowd...my experience was also with an UZI...sonic rounds sound like a string of small firecrackers coming out
the supressor, at sub-sonic you just hear the bolt cycling "tink, tink, tink" and the bullets making a firm "plop, plop" as they impact the ground. Maxing out the bullet weight is about the only way to wring-out any energy, as 950fps is about max sub-sonic velocity at sea-level...that
supresser was about two feet long...I've always got kick out of movies where the villian is running around with a stogie-sized "silencer" on a
revolver...Jack

+1. When you see "subsonic," think "suppressor." In order for the supressor to absorb the noise of the muzzle blast and bullet, the round MUST have a muzzle velocity below that of the speed of sound, which is approximately 1100 fps at sea level.

With subsonic ammo, you essentially hear the mechanical noise of the weapon superimposed over a muted "flatulence."

If supersonic ammo is fired, you hear sharp cracks. Muted, but still quite loud. And supersonic ammo will damage some suppressors.

Given the low velocity, the subsonic ammo makes up for it with heavier bullet weight, and relies on the shooter to put several holes in the target.

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