There has been rumor lately that Federal is reintroducing the 125gr. non+P Nyclad in .38Spl., probably at SHOT.
I just checked their website and its now on there, so its true.
http://www.federalpremium.com/produc...un.aspx?id=828

There has been rumor lately that Federal is reintroducing the 125gr. non+P Nyclad in .38Spl., probably at SHOT.
I just checked their website and its now on there, so its true.
http://www.federalpremium.com/produc...un.aspx?id=828

I may FINALLY be able to shoot up the rest of this old box?

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Excellent, and thanks for posting that link.

If you believe the trial testimony in the Vince Marinello trial, Nyclads were around at least a couple of years ago, testimony was that old Vince went to Elliot's in Jefferson Parish and asked for a "box of the good stuff" and they gave him a box of Nyclads-Same type of bullet they dug out of his late estranged wife's face.
Old Vince is scheduled to be sentenced to Life in January.
FYI for any of you who is planning to off the old lady-do NOT leave your "to do" list regarding the murder in your FEMA trailer for the cops to find-bad juju for sure and it makes the poor defense lawyer's lot harder than it has to be

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I know the "Offing the old lady" remark was supposed to be humorous. However, those of us who love shooting sports and firearms have enough public relatlions problems without remarks of this sort. Sorry, but in my opinion that joking remark is in bad taste.
I am not looking for an argument and mean no disrespect. I have simply stated my opinion for your consideration.

When is it going to be on dealers shelves???????

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Guess I'm not the only one that has been depending on the box and a half or so I have left, rat-holed for about 5 years, shooting only enough the 5-15 rounds I've been carrying to refresh ammo when I re-qualify.
Wow, found a LEFTY DeSantis Apache ankle holster and bought it today, today must be my 642's lucky day.

I LOVE that NYCLAD stuff! Glad it's coming back. That blue color really stands out - no - wait - that's just wrong.

Hmmm...wonder if they decided to reintroduce the Nyclad when copper was through the roof? I also wonder if it will be cheaper than copper jacketed stuff.....and, available in 50 round boxes....naw.

When did it become fashionable to sell ammo in designer boxes of 20 rounds anyway? Twenty round boxes are useless for me.

Glad its back though, I always liked the Nyclad ammo...

I guess when it got up to a buck or so a round for good quality self-defense rounds. I'm very grateful that the department takes care of most of my carry ammo requirements...but Nyclads for the snub were never in inventory.

So noted. But my remark about "offing the old lady" had noting whatsoever to do with the method or instrumentaliy used-but instead was directed to the caveat regarding not leaving your "to do" list for the "po-po" to find.

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Cool! The Nyclad ammo is good stuff. I wonder if they'll bring back the 9mm load too?

This may seem like a stupid question.I know Nyclad ammo was used in the past for snub nosed 38 revolvers but what made that particular round so good and coveted? I have never seen a Nyclad round before ....Thanks Mike

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I'm sure that the load was quite the stopper out of longer barrels, but out of a snubbie it doesn't look so impressive. Look at the third photo and the chart further down the page.
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rd

were they originally designed as a coating to reduce airborn lead at indoor ranges? i also heard that the first ones had a bit thicker coating of Nylon on 'em and wouldn't hold any clear striations making them hard or impossible to identify in ballistics testing. later i think it became a way to use dead soft lead without leading up the barrel. i think the silvertip was along the same line of thinking, a lightweight bullet to get the most velocity out of the snub with just a thin excuse for a jacket so it might be able to expand. i have a soft spot for federal ammo because i think they have good quality control, and i like the Nyclad bullets and have a couple of boxes of 158gr +p's squirreled away somewhere but in reality it is mostly because they're blue and look neato.
nothing wrong with variety, and it's always good to see forum members get their wishes from manufacturers
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Rich

I had a Belgian Hi power that fed only Nyclad hollow points exclusively, and no other hollow point.

The thinking at the time was the nylon enabled Federal to use a softer lead, thereby allowing better expansion.

I have never shot Nyclad but the performance pic for the linked article does not look too impressive.

BTW, the Speer Gold Dot and Remington Golden Saber each look great if you rely on gelatin testing.

I think this is the right direction for Federal to go. More and more people are buying Airweight revolvers instead of steel ones, and figuring out how hard it is to control one with +P ammunition. I know I'll be getting some for my 37-2.

Chalk this up to internet rumor but this is what I remember;

The Nyclad was first developed to make ranges more environmentally friendly (if that's even possible) by reducing the amount of lead in the air. Because of how the lead hollow point is coated, it became a great stopper in that the rounds would open more reliably than current hollow points of the time. Again because of the current competition of the time the Nyclad became extremely popular because of its reliability. Now fast forward about 15 years and I am not sure how they would compare to some current samplings but I would bet what it had going for it is the past reputation and the fact that its not +p. One things for sure, Federal will probably sell as much as they can make!

With Speer Gold Dots, Hornady XTP and FTPs around, I don't have the need for this.

Yeah, maybe with modern loadings the Nyclad is not state of the art good, but I really like the idea of a very soft 125 grain bullet with not even copper to slow down the expansion, coupled with a LARGE hole for the hollow point and standard pressure in the aluminum frame. Seems like a very good compromise load, though it wouldn't be my pick for a bigger or heavier gun.

Excellent! I was down to my last 10 rounds of 125 gr. I still have a box of the 158 gr +P. Are they going to reintroduce it also?

That's good. I just shot up the last of my Nyclad stash a few weeks ago. Mine were 125 gr. +Ps I'd had (and been carrying) for over 20 years. Figured it was time to freshen up the stash.

Your memory is correct. That is all my wife has carried in her Mod 36 since the day Nyclad came on the market. Perfect load for a 2in gun for someone who doesn't want a lot of recoil, but wants a reliable stopper.

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I'd like to see Nyclads in .380 and .45 ACP.

Thank you all for educating me on exactly what this round is and its attributes as a carry round.This sounds like the ticket for all those who shoot +P in a airweight gun.Less recoil and reliable expansion without having to break your wrist getting competent with it.....God Bless....Mike

That is interesting. The 158 gr. +P did not expand so well. The 125 gr. (which is what Federal is bringing back), almost doubled in size, while still penetrating over 9 inches.

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Heavier , slower bullet with a much smaller hollow cavity.

My recollection is that Nyclads were not hugely popular while in production, which explains why Federal quit making the stuff. However, towards the end of the run the 125grain 38 non +P hollow-points acquired a following because it was a soft lead bullet that wouldn't mess up your barrel, and expanded fairly well at modest velocities.....and could be fired in 38s which were not rated for +P, such as the 442s in production at the time. I have two full boxes of the old stuff, have been hoarding it with hopes of selling it for a small fortune and funding a comfortable retirement, but alas, it must not have been meant to be!

How much over 9"? If it didn't reach 12, it stays on the shelf.

I was fortunate to be able to purchase 50 rounds of the +P, 125 grain Nyclads yesterday from a new friend on another forum. I think I'll use them for warm weather carry. I still want to buy some regular 38 special Nyclads to try out on the range though.

John

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Was this ammo made by Federal back when it was marketed by S&W?
Regards,
Ralph

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Not sure if the question is directed at my last post about my buying some +P Nyclads. Anyway, the rounds are stamped "Federal" not S&W on the base. I hope that answers the question.

John

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Back in the day , Nyclad was marketed by S&W. In fact, I beleive it was an S&W developement to include an S&W marked case head. I was just wondering if Federal made it for S&W back then.
Thanks,
Ralph

Here's what I remember(whether correct or not)
Developed by S&W, later sold to Federal.
Designed to reduce lead in the air for indoor ranges.
Supposedly was able to slip through more layers of clothing than other rounds because of the nylon coating.
Large hollowpoint cavity and solid lead bullet good expansion at close range with 2" snubs, and supposedly designed specifically for 2" snubs.

What I am missing here is that the link to Federal states the round is jacketed. I was under the impression the original ammo did NOT have a jacketed bullet. Is this correct?

Did S&W actually manufacture Nyclad ammo or any of its ammo?
regards,
Ralph

Anyone have it in stock?

Years ago when I was a young pup. My local sporting goods store had Boxes of Nyclads the slugs were round nose, semi wadcutter, and wadcutter. $5.99 per box of 500. as a newbe hand loader I bought 4 boxes 1,000 slugs for $24.00 Plus sales tax. When I got them home I dumped them out in a big box. some were RN swc anw wad cutter. I liked the look of the blue round rose with nickle brass. They shot gfreat out of my new 8" Colt phython. then I tryed the semi wad cutters. they were black in color but shot good and very clean. some of the 148 Gr wadcutter were coated to much to load in the 38/357 brass so I culled them out. I still have some of each and wish I could find some one wit a sizer to run the heavey coated 148 gr wad cutter thu but got distracted by a local caster who mad some real nice bullets.

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<span class="ev_code_BLUE">I bet you all the tea in China that Federal® brings them back in 20 round boxes, not the 50 round (original) packaging.</span>

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That's good news about reintroducing Nyclad non-+P .38s. Years ago I bought 300 rounds when their discontinuation was first announced and can now restock.

I read some time ago that Nyclad ammo was made for S&W by Fiocchi before they sold the rights to Federal somewhere around the early '80s. I don't know if Fiocchi also made any of S&W's other ammo.

Didn't Nyclads become popular after Marshal and Sanow published their infamous "Stopping Power" series of books? They were highly rated in short-barreled guns against other available ammo of the period.

It is my impression that Fiocchi made all the S&W ammo back then.

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And in honor of this thread, I found a Bianchi Speed Strip in a box of odds & ends the other day - loaded with S&W head stamped 158 gr. +P BLACK Nyclad HPs.

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