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Old 10-04-2016, 01:19 AM
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The paper clip/magazine spring analogy is entirely irrelevant and wrong because if you don't bend the paper clip -- but bending the paper clip is the premise in this irrelevant analogy-- you will not exceed the yield stress of the clip and thus will hardly likely fracture the paper clip. Sure, substantially exceeding yield stress will fracture solid metal -- but this is NOT the mode of failure in magazine springs which operate BELOW yield stress.

All I'm saying is that a paper clip can be used as a spring, but it would be a very poor one, even if used BELOW yield stress like a magazine spring. So could a spoon, or a screwdriver. Other metals have the same properties as spring steel but in vastly different degrees.
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Old 10-05-2016, 11:06 AM
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...blah, blah, blah...
QED, you have made your point (multiple times), so it is time to let it go.

The condescending, know-it-all tone of your posts gets old really fast. Please just make your point and then move on.
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Old 10-05-2016, 11:59 AM
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QED, you have made your point (multiple times), so it is time to let it go.

The condescending, know-it-all tone of your posts gets old really fast. Please just make your point and then move on.
I guess this is as "technical" as you get. How sad.

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Old 10-05-2016, 12:13 PM
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All I'm saying is that a paper clip can be used as a spring, but it would be a very poor one, even if used BELOW yield stress like a magazine spring. So could a spoon, or a screwdriver. Other metals have the same properties as spring steel but in vastly different degrees.
Sure a paper clip is a very poor "spring," but that's irrelevant as I have attempted to explain previously in this thread; bending and fracturing a paper clip requires stress ABOVE yield, unlike stress in magazine springs, which is BELOW yield. THUS, the analogy that was directed to me regarding bending and fracturing a paper clip as some kind of evidence that magazine springs experience wear only when cycled, but not when statically compressed is a baseless and irrelevant analogy -- and is contrary to what magazine spring manufacturers have very clearly stated!

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Old 10-05-2016, 01:28 PM
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That's enough. I like to discuss and argue points. but this has gotten ridiculous.

To me this thread is locked.
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Old 10-05-2016, 01:45 PM
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Yes, it's somewhat pointless to respond to irrelevant posts, but I decided to factually reply to your post anyway. Carry on.
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I guess this is as "technical" as you get. How sad.
Your guess is wrong, so cheer up

I'm outta here.

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Your guess is wrong, so cheer up

I'm outta here.
Evidently your post can be totally deficient of technical content and merit -- there's no guessing there. Previously, by "guessing," I gave you the benefit of doubt. Carry on and cheers.
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Old 10-05-2016, 03:31 PM
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I take any tarnished rounds to the range and shoot it up. For me, it's a sign that it needs to be replaced. I don't carry ammo in my dai'y carry gun for more than 6-8 months before it is changed out and the old ammo disposed of at a range session.
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Jeez, another urine fest. I'm sorry I looked in on this one again. I won't repeat the mistake.
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Don't clean em, shoot em. Had a Detective who;'s ammo was so old they turned green in the cylinder. We took the pistol out in the back, shot all 5 rounds without a problem, then had to push the empty cartridges out with a down and small hammer. BUT,they shot.
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