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08-23-2009, 07:22 AM
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winchester bonded pdx 9mm 124 gr.jhp
Has anyone tried these they are +p rated for SD? Any comments or suggestions for 9mm carry ammo.
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08-23-2009, 11:34 AM
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IMO any of the "premium" or LEO ammunition manufactured by the major companies is the best performing ammo you can buy. I've always found them to be reliable and accurate out of any of my pistols.
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08-23-2009, 12:17 PM
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As a general rule, bonded bullets aren't really necessary unless you're planning on shooting through laminated glass-like windshields.
Frankly, virtually any quality JHP round from any major manufacturer is much, much better than anything available 20 years ago. Bullet placement is far more important than any minor differences in bullet design.
+P ammo frequently has less penetration than standard velocity (you're driving the same bullet faster) which can cause it's own set of problems.
Find something readily available in your area and practice, practice, practice.
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08-23-2009, 01:12 PM
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Been hoping to find it and a 147 loading for months here, even on line it's no dice?
I'm beginning to think that wide availability, along with anything below a buck a bullet for "good stuff" is now as much a thing of the past, as leaded premium @ 104 octane.
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08-23-2009, 05:17 PM
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OP, check out this month's American Rifleman for some data.
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08-23-2009, 06:03 PM
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Quote:
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OP, check out this month's American Rifleman for some data.
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As a matter of fact, I read that with interest. Given Hornadays end game and the rather off the wall testing, I have to wonder how the Critical Defense line handles intervening obstacles like limbs of the body.
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08-23-2009, 09:15 PM
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Glad I wasn't the only one with that take on it, amigo.  I had been thinking that it sounded like a pretty neat go, until I saw what their engineer said about the maximum penetration they were designed to develop.
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08-23-2009, 11:26 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Spotteddog
Been hoping to find it and a 147 loading for months here, even on line it's no dice?
I'm beginning to think that wide availability, along with anything below a buck a bullet for "good stuff" is now as much a thing of the past, as leaded premium @ 104 octane.
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Leaded 104? Heck, we still have that! 110 even! 
Of course, it may have something to do with the drag strip half a mile from the station... 
The major hype of these rounds is coming from their adoption by the FBI. They can't be bad then, and are as readily available as any other premium round in these parts (few and far between, but there). Heck, I have a box in .40. I think I still prefer the Talons though.
If someone wants to look at it from a legal liability standpoint it's also a good choice: "It's good enough for the FBI, so I figured it would be good for me."
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