Model 41 misfires?

GaryO732

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Well I took my newly aquired Model 41 to the range this morning. Temp was about 45 degrees. After running a box of 50 Fed Champions with no problems, I switched to Rem 22 Target and began to get one or two misfires (duds) per magazine. When I examined the extracted rounds they had healthy and deep firing pin hits. Never seen anything like it. I have heard talk of increasing the pin spring but the hits looked adequate to me. What say you...?
 
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When you say hangfire,did you mean the round eventually went off or is it a dud that never fired.If it's a dud you could try firing them again. Remington rimfire ammo quality control seems to have really gone downhill lately.Odds are it's just bad ammo from Remington.Pick up some CCI standard velocity and see if that doesn't help.
Bill
 
You think it's the ammo???

+1, Bill.

If the problem goes away when you change ammo, don't use that ammo. I've had problems with Remington .22's myself. :(


Here's a refresher:

If it goes click and nothing happens, that's a misfire. Wait a while, keeping the barrel pointed in a safe direction (in case it's really a hang fire). This could be the gun or the ammo. If a firing pin mark shows clearly on the primer or rim (not as clear as a fired case, but clearly), it's very likely the ammo. If the problem goes away when you change ammo…

The definition of a hangfire is the momentary delay in ignition. If you hear the hammer fall, "click", then the report, "bang", you experienced a hangfire. The delay could be milliseconds or seconds, but it's noticeable. This is most likely an ammo problem and if it happened twice, I'd stop shooting that ammo and try something else. If the problem goes away when you change ammo…

If it goes "pop" instead of "bang" (like other cartridges from the same lot), that's a squib. Stop shooting immediately , open and clear the action and inspect the bore for an obstruction. Firing a second shot with a bullet in the bore is a great way to destroy a barrel. If the problem goes away when you change ammo…

Now let's see pictures of that Model 41! :D
 
I have had very bad experiences with Rem. 22 ammo from the cheap bulk to the best target rounds. This is running them in a M17, Colt Match target and even a Ruger. Remington has fallen into an abbyss I am afraid. Just my humble opinion.
 
If the Feds are working....it's not the 41 ...it's the Ammo.
Go back to the Feds and see how it goes.
 
I cleaned out the misc. rim fire ammo box and decided to use up some of it for practice, given the delivery problems with CCI SV.
After about 10 misfires in the 41 I went back into the house a got my M63, When I had a misfire I would try it in the M63 where it usually fired.
I was half way to sending my 41 to S&W when I discovered that some wouldn't fire in the 63 either unless I turned it 180, and tried again. Some of the worst was Eley Sport.
Some wouldn't fire at all after even 8 hits, but I got most of it to go bang eventually, 2,3,4,or 5 attempts on some..
I am glad I don't have to depend on it for anything.
 
It does sound like ammo to me, however just to make sure, shoot the Remington first, in a freshly cleaned and lubed gun. You mentioned that the Federals were fired first, the Remingtons after......so, it could, repeat, could be the 41 was dirty and that was a contributing factor.

The model 41 is a target gun with a tight chamber and slide. It requires frequent cleaning during firing sessions. I clean mine after every box (50) with a nylon brush and then a mop. Make certain you clean the face of the slide around and below the firing pin and at the lockup point (pardon the nomenclature).

That said, it is probably the ammo!!!
 
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Agreed, I think you will find that some ammo will allow you to go further between cleaning. I very seldom clean the rifled part of the barrel, only the chamber, ramp, breach face etc.
 

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