Armed Robbery and Police Response

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My daughter was robbed at gunpoint tonight while at work. Can't divulge too much info because I don't know what I can and can't say.

The idiot walked in and pointed a gun at a customer and demanded all the cash. At which point she screams "I don't work here"!

He then pointed the gun at my daughter and a coworker. They gave him the cash and he fled on foot.

They immediately called LEO. They must have been close because they caught him less than 200 yards from the store.

I arrived and after talking to my daughter, I went and thanked the officers.

There were four of them. I told them who I was and they all said, "you must be the pissed off dad". Then one says "too bad you weren't here to stop it".

I replied "probably a good thing I wasn't here because it wouldn't have ended very well for one of us".

So another cop says "Too bad because you could have saved us tax payers some money".

I was a little surprised by that. But at least everything ended well.
 
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I'm glad your daughter is fine.

I've been in law enforcement 27 years, and the attitude espoused by the cops is exactly what I would expect.
 
Depeneding on your daughters attitude towards firearms and CCW restrictions in Washington, you/she may want to look into getting her a CCW permit. Glad everyone is OK, except for the scum bag. Sounds to me like he is a prime candidate for perforation, 2x CM, !x face.

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She doesn't mind guns and has asked about it. But she's got some growing to do first.

She's young (24) and she needs to get her mind around things like situational awaress and so on.

She started shooting at a young age and does very well. But that was paper targets.
 
My wife was the victim of an armed robbery in a peaceful group setting.
Without a long story, the guy ended up cornered with his pants around
his ankles before she allowed him to flee, thena 15 mile high speed chase
where the cops end up put the same pants around his ankles again.

She,we were very lucky his intent was not to injure, but it created a huge trauma for our daughter who was there and a lesser dent in my wife.

I mention this because the story of a robbery is very different the the experience of one. Can be somewhat exaggerated and delayed reactions.

I wish you and yours the very best and feel blessed we both have no real tragedy to live with.

My Best

John
 
I am very thankful that your daughter is OK. Keep an eye out for post-acute stress symptoms.

And the robber ought to be on his knees praising God that you or another father didn't appear on the scene to permanently interrupt his neurochemical circuitry.


Bullseye
 
And the robber ought to be on his knees praising God that you or another father didn't appear on the scene to permanently interrupt his neurochemical circuitry.
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I'm of the "all's well that ends well" school of gun fighting and police work. If it was my daughter, given how the situation ended, I would be thanking God that there was NOT anyone else there with a gun to intervene. Because to paraphrase Forest Gump, intervening heroes are like a box of chocolates......you never know what you're gonna get...
 
marlin.357 said:
After that teaser I think we need the rest of the story....
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Without a very long and detailed story let me sum up with this.

If all you have is a Machete, hanky over your face and dreadlocks and no belt..............................


Whatever you do....DO NOT attempt to steal my wifes purse.

Even if she is teaching a yoga class.

Could have been very bad, I am grateful she was not severely
injured.
 
MaximumLawman said:
I'm of the "all's well that ends well" school of gun fighting and police work. If it was my daughter, given how the situation ended, I would be thanking God that there was NOT anyone else there with a gun to intervene. Because to paraphrase Forest Gump, intervening heroes are like a box of chocolates......you never know what you're gonna get...
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Amen. If I were the victim of such a crime, even though I was armed, I would give the robber whatever he wanted if I thought he would just leave. Same if I witnessed such a crime. As long as it appears that it can be resolved with handing over a little cash with no one hurt and no shots fired, let him go. If he becomes irrational, or starts talking about going into the cooler, or the restroom, then I would consider taking some kind of action.

I have really thought through what I would do. I know that what one thinks he/she would do isn't what always happens, but I think all who carry weapons for protection have a duty to at least consider what they would do. I am severely limited because of choice of weapon. I carry a j-frame loaded with BB +p heavy .38. Not exactly the weapon to get into a big gunfight with. I consider it a five-yard weapon. I am limited by physical infirmities, nothing terrible, just the stuff that goes with being over 60. I am not a police officer. As far as I'm concerned, for me a successful encounter with a holdup man would be if he took the money and ran, and no one was hurt.

I ain't going in no back rooms with any robber, nor am I going to get in a vehicle with one, though.
 
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A friend of mine ( a now deceased deputy sheriff ) used to say he used the code DSAF to describe a situation where a waste of breath vermin failed to survive a deadly encounter as could have occured here. DSAF meant " Did society a favor ".
 
Before I met my wife she worked at a small cafe and weigh station. A guy got released from jail, then robbed her the same day. He didnt have a gun but pretended he did. Had her lay face down on the floor and said he was gonna kill her if she looked up. He was soon caught, but it made her hinkey. She wasnt used to guys that pack before me and it took a little while to straighen her out to my views, but we are almost there!
 
Just another quick thought. I never read the statistics on it, but in my experiance with all the women I knew or dated, a woman that works in a store is far more likely to be robbed than a man! Years ago I had another girl friend that ran a mans big and tall store. She was very petite. While I knew her she got robbed I think, 3 or 4 times! The store was near the freeway system in lancaster california. Besides that it got burglared a few more times. I was a guard for someplace else on graveyard, but she started to have me called when the store got hit. I chased the alarm a couple times myself and both times got there before the sheriffs dept, and they were 4 or 5 miles closer than me. Under the circumstance I was lucky I didnt catch them. Wouldnt have went good for me on my job! But now it dont matter.
 
I understand the cop's sentiment. I might have said the same. Though, as a practical matter, things could not have turned out much better. A Forum member recently reported a situation at a golf course where he found himself at gunpoint while unarmed. All ended well.

I would never suggest being unarmed in either situation.... yet introducing a second gun could not have improved the outcome much, but the downside could have been great. I'm not sure what my point is... It's hard to second-guess fate.
 
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