Federal Brass marked "NT"
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PS. forgot to mention that the .45ACP uses a small pistol primer instead of a large. Make sure that you sort them before trying to load...large primers just don't quite fit...some people throw away all small primer 45's...I just wait until I have enough and load them on my Dillon when it is set up for small primers. Often times mine are used in what is called a "lost brass" USPSA/IDPA match.
Randy
Randy
Thanks.
I went back and checked a few more...by golly, they are small primer pockets. They appear to have an insert that makes it look like a crimped large primer pocket. Oh well, I guess the few that I "removed the crimp" from will still work with a beveled pocket.
I have never seen these before. I have some Speer TMJ "Clean Fire" 38 +P's and they look like any other +P brass.
Good to know.
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mistergizmo
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Speer and Winchester also produce these "non-toxic" loads, but Speer doesn't indicate any ID on the headstamp to help you out.
Many of these loads have the frangible heads so they can be used in indoor ranges.
Small primers will fit, but don't expect these rounds to duplicate the performance of your regular large pistol primer loads.
Many of these loads have the frangible heads so they can be used in indoor ranges.
Small primers will fit, but don't expect these rounds to duplicate the performance of your regular large pistol primer loads.
mistergizmo, I have noticed on my 1911's and my 25-2 revolver that I have slightly improved accuracy with the NT/small primer over my large primers....load is the same (6 grains of Unique/230 FMJ). I don't understand that and it is not a huge difference but it is consistently a slightly smaller group by about 1/4- 3/8's of an inch.
Maybe some of our reloading guru's could figure that one out I don't understand it, seems like it is defying logic to me.
Randy
Maybe some of our reloading guru's could figure that one out I don't understand it, seems like it is defying logic to me.
Randy
mistergizmo
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Guess we'd have to agree that your mileage may vary ....
Especially for bullseye target shooters, I wouldn't assume that load performance would be comparable just because of the primer difference. There have been numerous technical articles published over the years showing performance differences among large pistol primers from different manufacturers. Some are "hot", some are not. Some are hard, some are soft.
I'd want to test my pet BE loads, maybe with a Ransom Rest, at 25 and 50 yards, before making a permanent switch.
And, as mentioned above, there's a real problem if you're using a progressive loader and haven't been diligent in separating your brass.
Especially for bullseye target shooters, I wouldn't assume that load performance would be comparable just because of the primer difference. There have been numerous technical articles published over the years showing performance differences among large pistol primers from different manufacturers. Some are "hot", some are not. Some are hard, some are soft.
I'd want to test my pet BE loads, maybe with a Ransom Rest, at 25 and 50 yards, before making a permanent switch.
And, as mentioned above, there's a real problem if you're using a progressive loader and haven't been diligent in separating your brass.
I hadn't planned on making a permanent switch....just noticed things with the SP. Gave me a use for the range pickup brass that most just toss out. It would however be interesting to do a Ransom test with a good match gun and see for real what it reveals.
Thanks!
Randy
Thanks!
Randy
I used to hate hearing THAT sound... The one where the 550B is trying to STUFF a LP into one of those small primer pockets. CRUNCH!!!!!!
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