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Given their (China's) less-than-stellar quality assurance/control record, guess I won't line up to be the first across the new bridge. The bridge should be blockaded when it opens by unemployed American workers.
 
The brilliance in charge never ceases to amaze me................:(
 
They mentioned that US steel companies were unable to meet the demand needed for this project. Of course they can't, we've outsourced that industry and many more years ago. The money we spend on this project is gone and will only return in the form of loans from China. When I think of the thousands of American workers trying to feed their families.......every one of those *** who approved this project should be fired and never work for a government agency again, or run for public office. Sorry for the rant but I have friends in the construction trades and understand what they are going through.
 
I hate it. The point is that America spend that much mony on war to terrorism that they almost reached the point of the end of their credit.

I dont like that. I dont like that the Chinese get that much power becouse they finance a lot of America's debts.

This makes America vunreble. I am not an expert but it gives me the creeps. God bless America.

Sorry for my bad English, but I have a fight with my window correction centre.
 
They'll try building it with the Chinese dry wall that has destroyed so many homes around here. Then we'll have to condemn and replace it.
 
I hate it. The point is that America spend that much mony on war to terrorism that they almost reached the point of the end of their credit.

I dont like that. I dont like that the Chinese get that much power becouse they finance a lot of America's debts.

This makes America vunreble. I am not an expert but it gives me the creeps. God bless America.

Sorry for my bad English, but I have a fight with my window correction centre.
Hi Thuer,
Thanks a million for the kind words. They get hard to come by sometimes.
Mike
 
Without singling anyone out, and I agree with the above posters, but think about Japan and the US. Japan almost owns the US due to the US people buying Jap cars. The profits from their car sales go direct to Japan. The cost of the parts made over there goes to Japan.

Yet the GM plant here is shutting down and already got rid of over 4,000 people. Many of those lost their homes.

Yes, the US outsourced jobs but the US consumer helped in that happening. ABC is doing segments on American made goods that are better, cheaper but left unsold in favor of foreign goods.

What was it Pogo said many years ago? We have met the enemy and the enemy is us.
 
The US was once a mighty industrial giant. No more, we are in decline. I bet it was mainly the EPA that put the steel business out of the US.

Working at HD dealerships I found that more and more parts are imported, because they have shut down so many chroming plants. The leather jackets are foreign made, because the EPA wont let us use the dies for the leather. The EPA guidlines make it that only a few chroming facilities exist, due to permits etc.

When things are made in the US, it is more expensive to produce because of this. You cannot really say it is the labor cost, because everything is automated. I see manufacturing shows on History or Discovery channel. A facility will have maybe a dozen workers and the place is filled with high tech equipment, replacing humans. So I feel it is the regulations imposed.

You may buy a name brand US product for 3x the price of an import, but you can hand it down to your grand children. The import stuff goes to the landfill within a year.

One problem is we have become a greedy consumer society. We buy what we want, not what we need. Instead of spending 1k on what you need (and saved for), you buy 5k worth of things you don't need, on a credit card. People want 5 tv's that are cheap so that you have one in every room, instead of one well made US product that might be double the cost of the import.

I would rather buy one $10 US made ice cream scoop, than a $1 import that gets thrown away in a couple of months. That US scoop will be around 20 years.

I try to practice what I preach, I own 2 Harley's, 2 Fords, all my guns are S&W, Colt and a Ruger.
 
On a positive note I saw a report on the news over the weekend on 2 manufacturers who are planning on pulling out of China after 10 years of outsourcing work there. Two seperate issues are driving this decision. One is that labor costs are currently going up at a rate of 40% per year. Second is that the quality has always been problematic and the Chinese response to complaints about quality is to just shrug.

Both manufacturers ran the numbers and have decided that manufacturing in the USA is now the most economical. Lower costs in terms of correction for Quality issues and Productivity in the US still leads the world. While bring 2000 jobs back to the US is a drop in the bucket you have to start somewhere and it could turn into a stream.

BTW, it wasn't just the EPA that killed off the Steel Industry in the US, it was a result of Environmental regs, piss poor management with an unwillingness to re-invest in state of the art upgrades, and unions who didn't think it was possible for the gravy train to end.

However, the factors that actually led to the US becoming the leading steel maker in the mid 20th century are still in place. Fact is that we are unique in that we have the raw materials and water needed for steel production in close proximity. Because of this I believe that in time we will see the Steel Industry re-emerge in the USA. Hopefully when it happens we'll remember the mistakes that led to the lean times we are experiencing right now.
 
What really hurt the US was WWII. We used up a lot of iron ore, which used to be scraped up off the ground, now it has to be mined. We used a lot of oil up, because of WWII we hit peak oil in the early 70's.
 
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I try to practice what I preach, I own 2 Harley's, 2 Fords, all my guns are S&W, Colt and a Ruger.

People ask me why I prefer S&W and Colt to Glock. I always tell them this:

I'm an American Son, I buy an American gun.

All three cars in the driveway are Detroit Iron as well. :cool:
 
I bet it was mainly the EPA that put the steel business out of the US.

Working at HD dealerships I found that more and more parts are imported, because they have shut down so many chroming plants. The leather jackets are foreign made, because the EPA wont let us use the dies for the leather. The EPA guidlines make it that only a few chroming facilities exist, due to permits etc.
Come on, you'd really rather that these types of industries would still be "self regulating" - which really means that they'd just dump all the carcinogens, etc. into the water table??? I agree with the rest of your comments, but this is pure bullcookies. I know I wouldn't want to live downstream from a chrome plating plant or a tannery & I doubt that you would either.
 
The EPA and OSHA cost American industry billions complying with excessive regulations. Clean air, clean water, and a safe work place are important but common sense and reason are also needed. When discharge water is cleaner than intake water something is wrong. When air quality into the carburator can fail an exhaust gas engine test (exhaust air cleaner than intake air) government has gone too far.

I won't even start on OSHA. Protecting stupid (can't read the book) machine operators is just the start. Rant off (it's not done, but stopping is important).
 
You can trash the Japanese automakers all you want but the fact of the matter is that they provide a lot of jobs for us Americans. Personally I've been a parts manager for a Toyota dealer for the last 24 years so I owe my living to Toyota. We were also a GM dealer until we were dropped last year in the bailout. Speaking from years of experience, GM vehicles are junk compared to a Toyota and the Government bailout pretty much proves that. Toyota also stands behind their vehicles better than GM would in a million years. Couple that with the fact that there is more of a Toyota Camry built in this country than there is a Chevy Suburban, and I wouldn't have a GM vehicle in the dooryard. I would be proud to have a Ford though, and my next new car, (my first new car), most likely will be a Ford Mustang Convertible.
I realize that there is something to the fact that the profits go overseas but I think that the jobs provided more than make up for this fact.
There, I've stirred the pot so go ahead and flame away!
 
Come on, you'd really rather that these types of industries would still be "self regulating" - which really means that they'd just dump all the carcinogens, etc. into the water table??? I agree with the rest of your comments, but this is pure bullcookies. I know I wouldn't want to live downstream from a chrome plating plant or a tannery & I doubt that you would either.

I understand what you are saying. I agree with the contamination issues. The way I see it, the EPA should be gone. Every State has an EPA, let them police the industry. One of the reasons we have freedom of the press is because they are supposed to be watch dogs. The Cuyahoga River in Ohio comes to mind. Devoid of fish and actually went on fire on several occasions.

The Federal EPA copiles on restrictions to eliminate industry, not to protect the environment. The progressive mind set in this Country for the last 100 years want every kid getting a college education and go into a service economy. If kids go to college, they can instill in them their progressive beliefs.
 
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