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Anyone else intrigued by these things? A $35 basic computer that will fit in a cigarette box.

The intent of the project is to use these in schools to fire up interest in hardware and software development, as interest in these areas have been dropping off lately.
Linux is quite powerful, and only limited by one's imagination.

Putting these computer tools into the hands of developing minds has got to lead to some interesting developments.

A full fledged, wifi enabled computer, able to stream live video and real time GPS info, all in a package that would fit in an average rifle stock. (Hey, this is a gun site, right?)
 
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Elsewhere the raspberry Pi project has been followed off and on for several months. The consensus is that it is a bit too lean on I/O to be any more useful than a PIC24 or a dsPIC33 microcontroler, which are computers in their own right. The difference is that you have to build the peripherals which makes them more versatile as function specific computers
 
venomballistics said:
Elsewhere the raspberry Pi project has been followed off and on for several months. The consensus is that it is a bit too lean on I/O to be any more useful than a PIC24 or a dsPIC33 microcontroler, which are computers in their own right. The difference is that you have to build the peripherals which makes them more versatile as function specific computers
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I am still interested in it . Now that they have it enclosed in a plastic shell to protect it a bit better.

Am still waiting to get one though, Looks like it is gonna be a good long while till they have sufficient stock to get them out to the masses.
 
vajohn1308 said:
I am still interested in it . Now that they have it enclosed in a plastic shell to protect it a bit better.

Am still waiting to get one though, Looks like it is gonna be a good long while till they have sufficient stock to get them out to the masses.
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it's been languishing like that since the beginning. if not development, bug squashing, if not bug squashing, manufacture.
I honestly hate to see them fail because of these things.
because it has languished as it has, its already last years model.

they way I see it, if your patient enough to wait for it, your patient enough to read the data sheets on parts suitable to build one. and if you do make sense of it all, by all means, clean and tin the soldering iron and get on it. Doing so embraces the core intent of the raspberry pi design
 
I understand the desire to get young people involved with technology, and I do consider the need for that indisputable. If we don't, we will play third, fourth, or fifth fiddle (maybe 27th fiddle) to everyone else in the world who does. On the other hand, I still have this arcane notion that kids should be able to spell, write, and do ordinary math without "devices" doing this stuff for them. So I am a bit on the fence, and my basic reaction is that I do not see why we cannot excel at both... ? We SHOULD be excelling at both. It is a good question, and the only answer I have for myself is that we aren't serious about it, and we don't want to because it might be a little hard, and we might actually place some expectations on kids that don't line up with the "everyone is special" philosophy that has at least aided in bringing us to our present deplorable position. That is really a depressing thought for me, but it is the one I keep coming back to every time I consider the matter. If I have gotten too far afield from the original topic, my apologies for the mini-rant.
 
M29since14 said:
I understand the desire to get young people involved with technology, and I do consider the need for that indisputable. If we don't, we will play third, fourth, or fifth fiddle (maybe 27th fiddle) to everyone else in the world who does. On the other hand, I still have this arcane notion that kids should be able to spell, write, and do ordinary math without "devices" doing this stuff for them. So I am a bit on the fence, and my basic reaction is that I do not see why we cannot excel at both... ? We SHOULD be excelling at both. It is a good question, and the only answer I have for myself is that we aren't serious about it, and we don't want to because it might be a little hard, and we might actually place some expectations on kids that don't line up with the "everyone is special" philosophy that has at least aided in bringing us to our present deplorable position. That is really a depressing thought for me, but it is the one I keep coming back to every time I consider the matter. If I have gotten too far afield from the original topic, my apologies for the mini-rant.
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trust me man ... such devices are a trick:D
should they be able to read, spell and do math ... yup. in fact, its ALL required to get anything at all out of such devices. You must do it for the device with exact precision before it can do the same for you later;)
I'm with you on your thoughts about the "everyone is special" mentality. it renders down to an excuse for mediocrity. I prefer a philosophy of "anyone can be specialized". Once an individual strength is recognized, it can be further developed to a level of excellence.
 
M29since14 said:
I understand the desire to get young people involved with technology, and I do consider the need for that indisputable. If we don't, we will play third, fourth, or fifth fiddle (maybe 27th fiddle) to everyone else in the world who does. On the other hand, I still have this arcane notion that kids should be able to spell, write, and do ordinary math without "devices" doing this stuff for them. So I am a bit on the fence, and my basic reaction is that I do not see why we cannot excel at both... ? We SHOULD be excelling at both. It is a good question, and the only answer I have for myself is that we aren't serious about it, and we don't want to because it might be a little hard, and we might actually place some expectations on kids that don't line up with the "everyone is special" philosophy that has at least aided in bringing us to our present deplorable position. That is really a depressing thought for me, but it is the one I keep coming back to every time I consider the matter. If I have gotten too far afield from the original topic, my apologies for the mini-rant.
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I agree, the basics do need to come first. I see this initiative directed at high school aged children, not any younger.

Also, computers and calculators should be banned from all pre-high school campuses.

The Ras-Pi isn't a snap together PC, it requires a good bit of command line programming to get it to go. Learning command line OS work is the same as learning a foreign language. It also teaches what is behind that slick GUI on which we have all become dependent.

Don't forget, we went to the moon in less than 10 years, and that was using slide rules, today it is estimated we will need 20 years or more to duplicate this task, and this is using today's computers. Our next generation of problem solvers need to first learn to solve the problem long hand, then speed up the process by programming a machine to do the same, but only faster.

When I went from paper tape to punch cards, I thought things could never get any better........
 
I find myself interested in this thread so .... lets roll back to the beginning and do a little dreaming.
what would you like to do with one?
A full fledged, wifi enabled computer, able to stream live video and real time GPS info, all in a package that would fit in an average rifle stock. (Hey, this is a gun site, right?)
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well thats not a bad objective.
Personally I'd like it in the form of a scope. Using the vid stream and a graphics layer to aim, we could have something going into night vision with push button crosshair style changes, laser range finding, real time ballistic solutions, kill cam and probably even an audio section for playing long distance love songs if your into that sort of thing
 
venomballistics said:
I find myself interested in this thread so .... lets roll back to the beginning and do a little dreaming.
what would you like to do with one?

well thats not a bad objective.
Personally I'd like it in the form of a scope. Using the vid stream and a graphics layer to aim, we could have something going into night vision with push button crosshair style changes, laser range finding, real time ballistic solutions, kill cam and probably even an audio section for playing long distance love songs if your into that sort of thing
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How about a rapid reaction force with each weapon (rifles, LAWs, MANPADS,mortars, arty, etc.) all online and networked. Targeting info fed to each weapon, with the designated target highlighted in each user's scope. Instructions fed as to which weapons are to be used, and which ordnance/ammo. Intel fed both ways in real time, video available from and to each unit.

This type equipment would also allow for direct targeting without the need for lazing the target, all done passive, no active emissions on target.

Think of CIWS accuracy across a large array of weapons, all networked.
 
I am not into fantasy electronics so I guess that leaves me more in Drew's frame of mind, though I do prefer Cherry above any other pie - particularly one that is just a smidge tart. When it comes to futuristic thoughts, especially about employing weapons and life/death decisions, boots on the ground seem like a more certain approach than video-fun-and-games from half-way around the world. I suppose we both are too old fashioned, but that is why there is always a "younger generation." Good luck to them! :)
 
M29since14 said:
I am not into fantasy electronics so I guess that leaves me more in Drew's frame of mind, though I do prefer Cherry above any other pie - particularly one that is just a smidge tart. When it comes to futuristic thoughts, especially about employing weapons and life/death decisions, boots on the ground seem like a more certain approach than video-fun-and-games from half-way around the world. I suppose we both are too old fashioned, but that is why there is always a "younger generation." Good luck to them! :)
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actually ... what you proposed isn't that far outside the realms of possible. in fact if such a project achieved about 2/3 that, the lethality of a single rifleman could eliminate the need for an armored division.
I'd love to test that one:D
 
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