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12-19-2009, 02:14 PM
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How to Improve Snubbie Aim?
I shoot a Glock 27 a WHOLE lot better than my S+W 442.
Just prefer a revolver and a snubbie at that... any tips on where and how to improve aim?
At 15 feet I can hit paper but it is randomly inside and/or outside a pie plate.
When I slowed down, compressed the trigger and got the wheel moving, settled in and fired I was FAR more accurate and generally hit the circle.
Any tips, websites, drawings, video/DVD instruction?
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12-19-2009, 03:25 PM
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As with any revolver the trick is to slow down and have good DA trigger control. Start slow and work your way up to speed.
That said, CT laser grips cut my 30' snubbie groups to just a few inches.
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12-19-2009, 04:50 PM
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Wee Hooker pretty much summarized the solution. Gradually build up your speed and improve trigger control along the way. To become accurate AND fast shooting DA takes a lot of practice and I mean thousands of rounds not merely a few dozen rounds every month or so.
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12-19-2009, 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by n4zov
Wee Hooker pretty much summarized the solution. Gradually build up your speed and improve trigger control along the way. To become accurate AND fast shooting DA takes a lot of practice and I mean thousands of rounds not merely a few dozen rounds every month or so.
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Here's my .02.
You have to have a good set of grips and a strong grip. I squeeze a tennis ball daily both hands for a good workout and stress relief. I use a Tyler on my 36 to give me a larger gripping surface, though Uncle Mikes are the best IMO. I just don't like them hanging onto my shirt when drawing and they cause the revolver to print occasionally.
Grip the revolver with your left thumb over your right thumb past the meaty portion of your left thumb, right behind the big joint. Gives you much greater control of the revolver.
Buy some snap caps and practice, practice followed by more dry firing practice always watching the FS and using good trigger control like you did when you slowed up. TRIPLE CHECK they are snap caps and keep the gun pointed in a SAFE direction. I use 3 level 3 vests in the garage one stacked on top of the other for a safe back drop.
Start practicing again with live ammo and keep your speed down. You should easily keep all shots on a 10" paper plate at 15'. If you can't, keep practicing some more. Accuracy is way more important than speed. If you cannot keep them shots on that plate at that distance I recommend MUCH more practice until you can before carrying that snub as you can endanger innocents with errant rounds.
Don't give up! Just practice good sight and trigger control and practice some more! The speed will come along as you progress.
Good luck and have fun!
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I think one can become a decent DA shooter without burning a ton of ammo, but in order to do that you need to dry fire the snot out of your gun. Dry firing will do three things. It will help you develop the coordination that DA shooting requires, it will strengthen the muscles involved in DA shooting and it will smooth out the gun's trigger by polishing the lockwork. Of course one should still practice regularly with live ammo.
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12-19-2009, 06:43 PM
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As previous posts have stated, start slow and work up + practice.
I also find that having the front sight a bright color is helpful.
For this sort of practice, these are excellent:
http://www.outdoorsuperstore.com/pro...ITY)&cat=40302
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Those front sights are pretty hard to pick up quickly. You need to paint your sight a bright color, as was suggested. (I use Red nail polish on my M-36 front sight.)
Then, you also need a set of grips that fit your hand...exactly......for consistent shots. I like Farrar Unigrip, rubber combat grips during the cooler weather, and Spegel smooth wood Boot Grips for summer wear, under a T shirt. I also have the Spegel design rubber boot grips from Uncle Mike's. Bob
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12-19-2009, 08:50 PM
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Thank you for the advice.
I replaced the factory grips with a set of Hogue and really found the snap of the recoil easy to manage and was an afterthought. It seems more of a Chubbie than a snubbie with the larger grips but I like being able to latch all four fingers.
Ammo is rather hard to find. +P at about $30 per 100 at Wally World when available.
Any mild cheaper/milder range stuff that I can find and gun shows?
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Last week I put 12 out of 12 rounds from my Glock 27 in a 4 inch group from 110 ft. Of course they were slow and well aimed.
From my 642, I might make one shot on the target from that distance.
I know that's not the purpose of a snubbie though. At 20 ft I'm very comfortable.. even up to 30. For me the 642 is a lot more comfortable to carry all day and it's a lot less bulky.
As stated... and I'll say it again.... Practice. Figure out how it works for you. I found out I need to completely bury the front sight and concentrate on my trigger pull.
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what to do? I have a 638 and what I did was take a bore sighter insert it and practice firing (dry if course) and if the laser moved I messed up start slow and controlled and work up to drawing and rapid fire
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wnr700;
Although I like the looks of the primer-powered CCI rounds, why
not ask your LGS where you can get some reloads; he should know someone in the area. Then you'll have some lower powered rounds, which will make for better practice. The Plus P ammo is fine, but a
hole in your intended target is way better. As stated earlier, lots of
practice really pays off, whether with dry-firing or actual.
Works for me, TACC1.
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I know this wasn't the question, but I can't help myself.
Since "shot placement is king", and you admitted you're a better shot with the G27 ... IMHO, that's what you should carry.
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As others have stated, the use of "snap caps" is invaluable. With hundreds of dry fire practice with these I have managed to master the trigger on my 642. I now shoot that 642 better (meaning more hits where I want faster) than my fullsize M&P9. Which is why I want to trade my M&P for another small frame revolver.
Get some snap caps and focus on that front sight not moving through the trigger pull.
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Sometimes it's hard to remember.....?
Just how many dozen, hundred's, or thousands of rounds does it take one to put through their "favorite" gun, to make it their "favorite gun"?
And because it's so easy NOT to recall the number of caps you've popped out of your current "favorite", I'd ask this?
How many rounds did you shoot out of your current favorite, before it became your current "favorite"?
Dry firing
Laser grips
Low powered 148 full wad cutter .38 Special target velocity rounds
I don't care if you want to practice only while burning incense, as long as you practice!
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Practice, practice, practice.
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Quick tip
When dry firing, place a coin flat on top of the barrel. The goal being to complete the firing stroke without dislodging the coin. This will help encourage a steady grip and good follow through. With small, light guns with long trigger pulls, it's very easy to disturb the sight alignment before you can fire.
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How do you improve your snubbie aim? The same way you get to Carnegie Hall....practice, practice, practice!
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I gave up on the sights and now use instinct (point) shooting technique. To train without shooting, I have Crimson Trace grips and snap caps. Present the gun at an object, then engage the laser and see if the laser is on your intended target. Then pull the trigger watching for how much the laser moves around. When you can point at a target, and the laser confirms your POA, and the laser doesn't dance as you complete the DA pull, then you can take the laser off and sell it to the next guy.
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