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Old 01-19-2010, 07:41 PM
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hey guys, i have heard you all talk about carrying N frame guns, but there are not that many pics of them being worn. i would like to see a few pics of them being worn.

i would also like any info on an IWB N frame holster that is adjustable for cant if such a beast exists.

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Old 01-19-2010, 08:59 PM
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I shoot an N frame in IPSC and can't imagine carrying it around all day. You're gonna need a lot bigger size pants if you're gonna tuck it inside the belt.
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As guns get bigger, the holster, belt, clothing and the carrier's body must work in perfect harmony. A good hefty gun belt is a must. Carrying an N frame is very doable for many people, but it takes getting used to, and the only way to do that is to wear the thing. I carry a 5" full underlug 629 (read 3 lb. gun) all day at times, the more often I wear it, the easier it is.
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I shoot an N frame in IPSC and can't imagine carrying it around all day. You're gonna need a lot bigger size pants if you're gonna tuck it inside the belt.
The key to comfortable IWB carry is to not put it inside your pants, but between your belt and your pants. That way you don't need bigger pants or a smaller belly, you just need belts a couple inches longer.

I have carried my 625 MG a few times, but in a cheap-o Uncle Mike's IWB. It is actually a relatively light gun, with RB and pencil barrel.
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Old 01-20-2010, 11:05 AM
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The key to comfortable IWB carry is to not put it inside your pants, but between your belt and your pants. That way you don't need bigger pants or a smaller belly, you just need belts a couple inches longer.

I have carried my 625 MG a few times, but in a cheap-o Uncle Mike's IWB. It is actually a relatively light gun, with RB and pencil barrel.
Uh...that kinda defeats the purpose of IWB.
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Uh...that kinda defeats the purpose of IWB.
How so? You use the same waist, same gun, same holster, same concealment. What specifically is defeated?
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Not exactly the same concealment.....I have used this method with my P7....outside the pants you have to make sure you have enough cover garment for the bottom of the holster...it also hides a bit better IWB...
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thank you all for such wonderful commentary.

i carry iwb all day long, i understand what i will need.

i would love to see pics of holsters and them being worn, if possible...from the ones that wear them..
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outside the pants you have to make sure you have enough cover garment for the bottom of the holster
True, although that's never been a problem for me. Another advantage in addition to not having to loose weight, buy new pants, etc., is that it offers better sweat protection for the gun during those difficult months of the year.
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True, although that's never been a problem for me. Another advantage in addition to not having to loose weight, buy new pants, etc., is that it offers better sweat protection for the gun during those difficult months of the year.
As does selecting a holster with a bodyshield.


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I don't have a pic, and won't subject the good members of this board to that horror, but I carry a 4" N frame in a Sparks VersaMax 2 without any problem. You just have to adjust your wardrobe some as was stated earlier. A good gunbelt is an absolute must.

As far as finding an adjustable cant IWB for an N frame, I am afraid you will have to go to a custom maker and pay dearly. It is hard enough to find an IWB for an N frame to begin with.

Any chance you are left handed?

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Yep, I include body shield on all holsters I order, well worth it.
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Not an IWB, but here's a fairly comfortable and concealable rig I made for an N frame.
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LOL! It would be no problem to mirror image one. I was just showing you that it can be done and somewhat comfortably.
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I feel like a 4 inch 625-3 is a really good carry gun for me. Enough gun for almost anything I will run into.






When I go into bear country or when the mood strikes me I carry a 3” 629 in a Lobo IWB.



I carry the 2 inch also but that thing really kicks the snot out of my hand. The holster for the 2 inch is a Milt Sparks that cost me over $165 by the time I paid shipping for the gun both ways. They didn’t tell me I was going to have to send them the gun until I waited about 7 weeks. Not the happiest purchase of my life.

The one for my 4 inch is from Bullseye enterprises and cost me about $27 with shipping. It feels good and I like them to be low and deep behind my belt.

The lobo is still new to me, no pix wearing it yet but it feels good. I will buy more from him. I think I’m done with Milt Sparks.
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I don't know if there is an IWB for an N model. I carry my model 58 .41 magnum in OWB Galco. Makes a nice fit and covers pretty good with a loose shirt. I'm a big guy too.
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Hi:
Younger and slimmer I carried a 4" Model 29 "Off Duty" in a Safariland IWB holster at 11 O'clock. Also used a "Berns-Martin" shoulder rig.
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How so? You use the same waist, same gun, same holster, same concealment. What specifically is defeated?
The purpose of IWB is to eliminate the need to conceal that portion of the gun that resides below the waistband. If you have the holster outside of your pants, you are not covering the lower portion of the gun with your pants. You might as well use an OWB holster (since that is effectively what you have).

FWIW, I carry a 329pd (4" N frame) in a Galco summer comfort. It works, but it rides just a tad high on my frame, and I would prefer a bit lower riding holster.
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Sometimes carry a 4 in N frame in a leather Fist #19 IWB holster. Even when carried IWB a good belt is an absolute must.

With a good belt a round butt N frame can actually conceal quite well, and I'm not a large guy. I wear Wrangler cowboy cut jeans.

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Thanks to all who have responded. some good working info here.


Most of the pics i have seen so far carry the gun just a bit too high for my taste.

Was hoping for pics of a holster that sat down in the pants more, with less of the grip out. and more forward cant..

the search continues...
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Old 01-21-2010, 11:26 AM
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The purpose of IWB is to eliminate the need to conceal that portion of the gun that resides below the waistband.
I disagree, there are several objectives of the IWB carry, not just one purpose. You ignore easy-on/easy-off, the ability to move the holster to other locations without taking off belt (such as moving from hip to crossdraw when driving), closer fit to body than allowed with belt holster, etc. If the only benefit was the one you mention then IWB carry would not be as popular as it is .
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I disagree, there are several objectives of the IWB carry, not just one purpose. You ignore easy-on/easy-off, the ability to move the holster to other locations without taking off belt (such as moving from hip to crossdraw when driving), closer fit to body than allowed with belt holster, etc. If the only benefit was the one you mention then IWB carry would not be as popular as it is .
Well, I suppose there are different strokes for different folks. The IWB holsters that I use (Sparks SSII, Galco, etc) do not allow you to slide the firearm around on the belt while in use. Unless you are using a clip-on, than you can't reposition location easily. I have used both a clip-on and conventional IWB holsters. For me, there is no comparison regarding comfort, concealment, and retention. The clip-on just didn't cut it.

There are many OWB designs (paddle holsters, snap loops) that allow easy on/off and some repositioning without disrobing. As far as fit, I agree that most IWB's really put the gun tight to your body, but a well designed belt holster can do the same (if the maker so chooses).

I don't think there is anything inherently wrong with wearing and IWB as an OWB, I would just prefer to use a good OWB if I were going that route. As always, quality and fit makes a large difference in comfort and concealment. It’s not like you are wearing your underwear on the outside of your pants .
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The IWB holsters that I use (Sparks SSII, Galco, etc) do not allow you to slide the firearm around on the belt while in use. Unless you are using a clip-on, than you can't reposition location easily.
I'm not aware of any IWB that you can just slide around your belt to reposition, seems that your belt loops would prevent that whether your holster was clip or snap loops. You are correct that the clip allows easy relocation, which is why I am a big fan of those. In any event, to each his own, here's some of mine...

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http://www.miltsparks.com/Summer_Spec.htm Longuner, here is a pic of a Sparks Summer Special. I like the SSII because it sits a bit lower at the waist.

If you wear a clip IWB inside your pants, then you might be able to slide it around, since the loops are not preventing you from doing that. If you wear it OWB, obviously the loops preclude sliding it around.

The Summer Special's loop around your belt, so the holster cannot come out on the draw, no matter how hard you tug. I used a nylon clip holster for a while, but I abandoned it once I picked up the Sparks Summer Special II. Both were easy on/off, but the nylon job squirmed around a bit much for my liking. I never bought a quality clip holster. I do like IWB's on/off convenience, which is why I am also partial to paddle holsters.

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That's a nice looking holster. I would not recommend any clip holster made of nylon or similar material. I have tried them, and they do not function nearly as well as leather w/steel clip. One significant problem is most of them will not stay open to reholster the weapon. Don Hume makes excellent IWB leather holsters with very strong steel clips, and they are not expensive at all.
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I have been using Galco Summer Comfort IWB holsters for several months now. I use them for 2,2.5,3, and 4 inch N frame revolvers, and one for a 3 inch L frame.

Price is about $60 or so, and they are available. I am too old for green bananas, let lone waiting 6 months for a holster.
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I picked up a holster years ago that I still have somewhere for an N frame IWB. it is a "fobus" type holster. It keeps the cylinder above the belt line so no need for bigger pants. Can be used with any barrel length. I keep it around in case I need it. Used it for my 28 when it was the only gun I had. When all guns must go this one will never leave. I bought it cheap and fixed it up. Put around $400 into it and believe it worth every penny. Almost sold it once but quickly got my wits back. It has an additional number on it like a PD would used. Thought TX DPS might have issued it but when I contacted them they said no. One day I'll get a letter on it and maybe try to trace it's background.
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I have a matching pair of Kramer - IWB and OWB in mahogany horse for 3" N-frame (Ahrends boot grips) and a dump pouch - I find them entirely satisfactory - the color often said to be an issue with horse is first rate the stitching is good enough. The shorter N frame get to be top heavy with the cylinder above the belt - which I think is almost necessary to get the pistol back and tight to the body in the hollow of the back. The choice is bulky with the cylinder behind the belt though with enough cant to put the grip vertical I suppose it would be minimized. There is no Utopia.
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thanks everyone,

i have ordered a tucker heritage IWB for my 29 will see how that works, may be what i was lookin for, i hope.
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Check out Simply Rugged, Leather gun holster, concealed carry holster - Simply Rugged Holsters? - Proudly made in the USA

Rob is a great guy to deal with, his holsters are top quality, and what he doesn't have on hand he will build for you. I carry a 3" 629 in one of his pancakes with the InsideOut straps. It can't be seen, even under a summer shirt and it's darn comfy! (sorry, no pics)
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Sorry, don't currently have any pics while worn. Here is a Lobo for a 4" N frame.

Here is a Milt Sparks Summer Special for my M21-4 TR. It rides fairly low.

And I just today got a new Fist IWB for my 325NG, but no pic yet.
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Here's that new Fist IWB for the 325NG. Well made and very comfortable.



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Roundgunners pic shows how well IWB hides stuff. A good gunbelt is a must, and then you just have to find the so called "sweet spot" - the place to put the holster & gun where it is most comfortable for you.
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Here's an interesting IWB holster for large frame revolvers.

http://hoffners.com/min4a.jpg
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Here's an interesting IWB holster for large frame revolvers.

http://hoffners.com/min4a.jpg
That holster is well made but sits REALLY high. Mine chafes my armpit with a 686. I will admit I am 5'3" so taller folk may find it acceptable, but be warned.
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Here's an interesting IWB holster for large frame revolvers.

http://hoffners.com/min4a.jpg
It must have been a year or two ago, but someone on this forum got that holster, I think for an N frame, and it was an unworkable mess.
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I saw it referenced here last year and was intriqued due to the high ride design, which keeps the cylinder above the beltline, but the price tag has keep me away - so someone didn't like it, huh?
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I posted a couple photo’s on page 2 I think, but didn’t have any with the new 3” Lobo or the 2” Sparks



I also like the JIT holster, especially if the IWB has been on all day, some times ya just don’t want it right next to ya anymore!



This is with the 3” 629. With the 2” 625 it does not go past the bottom.
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Bought a Hoffners' and it was au unworkable rig as all the weight of the weapon was above the belt and only the bbl on a Mtn Gun below the belt.

It shifted all the time and the grip kept printing. I'm a retired cop and wore a handgun daily for 30+ years. Best out there for my bucks is the Sparks Versa Max. The wait is fairly long but the product is worth it.

Been wearin Sparks leather since 1973.
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I have carried my 3" 629 in a SimplyRugged Sourdough with inside-out straps quite a bit. Works just fine...
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Reading this with interest as I was thinking of getting a Lew Horton 657 3" as a carry gun. Might have to stick with something a bit smaller for CCW. But just might get that .41 Mag "just because."
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I have carried N frames since the mid 70's daily....either as a duty weapon or as a concealed off duty gun..I am fond of big guns that shoot big bullets.....I am retired and still my EDC is usually an N frame. I carry a M-29 4" or a M-58 4" or a LH 24 3" IWB in a CABO ( carry a big one) holster.....I just checked their site b-4 this post and they may be out of business now.
I also use a 38 year old Smith & Wesson IWB clip holster that I "stretched" years ago by soaking it in water and putting a 3/4" drive deep well socket in it that corresponded with the diameter of the N frame.....if I go OWB I use the Galco street combat.....I have also used the Simply rugged with the belt loops....They all work and if I dress for the gun you will never know I am armed. I prefer the gun to ride so that the heel of the butt touches the inside of my elbow when my arm hangs naturally....I have seen some N frame kydex rigs on some other forums that were IWB's but don't know who they were made by. I have Hogue synthetic finger groove grips on my sq butt N's. I have big hands and cannot tolerate the gun shifting in recoil during rapid DA.

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Not an IWB, but here's a fairly comfortable and concealable rig I made for an N frame.
Nice holster, you do good work.
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You need enough of the grip exposed to lock in before the gun leaves the holster. The VM2 or SS2 holds the grip tight to your side, so concealment is not an issue. That said, you have to be a bit of contortionist to draw a 3" or longer barrel. I'm more comfortable putting a 4" into a pancake holster, which can ride lower, but is harder to cover. If I ever carry a 6" again, it's going to be in a Tom Threepersons holster.
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I saw a guy at a local gun shop yesterday w/ a Ruger Alaskan in an IWB holster, the grip was almost to his armpit. You really are trying to fit a round peg into a square hole with guns this size.
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I can comfortably carry my 58 in a horsehide SS2. Build makes a big difference. I'm tall and thin. The SS2 really keeps the butt tucked in tight.

If an N frame is going to be concealed you need small stocks on it. The butt is the difficult part. A good belt and holster minimize the weight.
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Don Hume makes a reasonably priced IWB holster for N Frames that is comfortable. It isn't as nice as a Milt Sparks Summer Special but when I bought mine it was half the cost. I have both the Hume and the Sparks holsters for a 4" N Frame and the Hume is more comfortable to wear. Both are secure. Buy your pants to fit with the holster. You don't comfortably add a N frame IWB to even moderately tight jeans.
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How so? You use the same waist, same gun, same holster, same concealment. What specifically is defeated?
I NEVER wear untucked shirts, which I HATE.

I don't wear vests, sport coats or anything of the like.

That means that my "cover garment" is my tucked dress shirt or polo shirt.

If the IWB isn't between my pants and me, I'm open carrying.

I have two modes of concealed carry, IWB and pocket carry. For me, anything else would be open carry. I have no objection to legal open carry. I just choose not to do it myself.
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