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Old 03-11-2010, 11:37 AM
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Last night in Springfield, Missouri, a couple of masked men invaded a home there armed with a knife. The home owner was obviously prepared and shot one at least and they are still looking for the other one. I was just wondering how many of the folks on this forum, being interested in firearms and all, are actually aware and prepared for such an event? Speaking for myself, I'm never very far from a loaded weapon. Not paranoid, just aware. I have heard though that perfect paranoia is perfect awareness. I wonder how much time the home owner had to pull and shoot. Maybe he was just sitting there admiring his 65-4 at the time? If it happened here, that would probably be the case The police report said the perp was shot in the back, so he must have been retreating.
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I have a loaded Sig 220 in .45 auto secreted within easy reach in the house. At night, I also have an H&K USP in .45 auto in the bed headboard, together with a 230-lumen compact flashlight set for strobe. The house is alarm protected, and my pit bull dog sleeps at the foot of our bed. Security bars on doors and windows. Cell phone on the headboard. I think I'm reasonably well prepared. If I were a potential home invader, I think I'd try to find another potential victim. A home invasion is something up with which I will not put...
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I have a ton of guns--locked in the safe. However I do keep a .38 always close by, sometimes a .44 special. I used to live and work in high crime areas, however we are now retired and live probley in one of the safest areas in the country.
45 years ago I did have the experiance.
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A home invasion is something up with which I will not put...
I say, wonderfully phrased, Sir Winston!

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Old 03-11-2010, 12:55 PM
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A 686+ with night sights is at the bedside every night, and placed in the drawer next to me in my office during the day. I sense that this leaves some holes in my preparation, which I'm pondering how to fill in.

Like feralmeril, crime is extremely rare in my neck of the woods, and violence(except for an occasional domestic case) is virtually unheard of. I know that the possibility still exists, though; and I want to be as prepared as possible.

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I have my house booby trapped like Lex Luthor's hide out in the first Superman movie.

In case anyone gets past that, right now I have my G27 in an uncle mikes retention holster on my hip.. I very often open carry around the house. If I feel like getting "more comfortable", I'll have my LCP, but I'm always within a few feet of a gun, if not carrying one.
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Old 03-11-2010, 01:10 PM
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Not paranoid...just prepared.

House main floor...Browning hi-capacity 12-gauge pump, S&W 4" 500 & S&W 642/CT.

House lower level...Browning 10-gauge pump, S&W 5" 460v & Browning 9mm hi-power.

Garage...Browning Upland 12-gauge pump.

Strategically placed & "all set to go" with assorted goodies for 2-legged & 4-legged critters.
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My HD set-up is 2" deadbolted storm doors/db interior doors,alarm system,and outdoor lighting..no pit bull, but 3 loaded Smith revolvers in .38 spl where we spend the most time..

Location..urban neighborhood with a good deal of crime,drive-bys,and recent home invasions..a shoot-out,4 bad guys,7 blocks from my house a few weeks ago..no arrests..
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1964, parkersburg, wv. I am young and infatuated. I am new in town, running a job. I was introduced to a girl. The girl is a GF to a tough 6 ft 3" italian about 5 years older than me. I met him through a guy that worked for me. He is undependable, a bad worker and I had to fire him shortly after he introduced me to his buddy that is suppose to be hooked up with the mob. I take that with a grain of salt and figure it is BS. The guy wants to go on a double date. I had another girl lined up. I go first to pick him and his date up. They get quibeling and she is attracted to me. We leave him flat footed. She is a looker and wild.
Some time later at night, I see him and his buddy that I fired stakeing out my apartment while she is visiting me. They scratch out as I start down the outside stairs. I later have a serious aldtercation about it with the ex employee.
I set up my quarters a little different. Move the bed away from the window that was visiable, put a loaded pump 12 gauge shotgun the boys didnt know I had behind a open closet door in the liveing room, put my EMPTY revolver they knew I had in plain sight on the dresser.
A few days later I am sitting on the john and heard something in the kitchen that has a door to the outside stairs.
I came out and here they are! They had carded their way in. The big ex BF is wearing dark glass`s, slapping a 24 oz coke bottle from one hand to the other and sez, "Heard yer looking for me".
The other named rick, is more impaytiant sez something like screw it, lets take him now! I have very long arms and am able to keep him at bay with left jabs. I get very lippy trying to get them madder and also hope they see the revolver on the dresser that is closer to them, than me. I have manuvered to where I can grab the shotgun behind the open closet door.
The big one must have sensed I had something. To my amazement he backs off and queits down rick.
We have a few words and they left! To this day I thank God and wonder if I really would have killed them!
Now, I am just a fat old man.
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I'm not in a very high crime area but I have:
deadbolt doors, w/steel security "screen" doors; deadbolt windows; 638IWB on me all the time I'm dressed, (within very close reach when I'm not); 65-5, 3" w/me at night; 12ga. Maverick w/4-0 and 00. Hope I never need them!
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Old 03-11-2010, 04:07 PM
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I have progressed over the years from condition White, to a gun on the wall, to a loaded gun on the wall, to several guns conveniently concealed in several places through the house - to ALWAYS CARRYING!
I have a local alarm system to wake me if an unannounced visitor enters.

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Old 03-11-2010, 06:14 PM
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A car full of what must have been drunks tried to get in my house at 4:00 a.m. on a Sunday morning in early December (they had a dead-bolted front door between them and eternity, as a 12 ga. express load of #4 buck would have been quite decisive from my Ithaca 37 at 30 ft., thank God they didn't get in) and there was a stand off about a mile from my house a few days ago. Murders, ect. I could live in a better area, but it could be much worse. I've been given **** for it, but I even carry in the shower. Since the early December incident, I frequently keep a long gun within arms reach (usually "Kate" my 1963 18 " Wingmaster X 5 9 pellet 00), especially when I'm in the basement, in addition to the handguns I carry.
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I live in a very safe neighborhood that has had one break-in in the 20 plus years I've lived there. It was a disgruntled employee and the homeowner caught him inside the house. However, my M&P9 is still on the nightstand every night. You just never know...
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I live in a rural, relatively crime free area. Even so, I have a home defense plan and firearms are only a part of the plan.
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To pull off a home invasion with a knife you must be either very confident with a blade or extremely stupid...due to the outcome, I vote the latter.
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I live in a bungalow style house in a questionable nieghborhood so I carry my 9ve loaded with +p hollowpoints at all times. If someone kicked in my front or back door while I was sleeping they would only be about 8 steps from the bedroom door. If I had to open the nightstand drawer and reach in for a gun it would be too late. I made my own bedside holster so I can draw quickly in a sleepy haze. I may still be in the bed when they get to my room but I'll have a bead on em
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I have a 340PD (loaded with Speer "short barrel" 357s) in a basic Uncle Mike's IWB holster clipped to my lounge pants or jeans whenever I am home, as well as several of the big 4D maglites distributed throughout the house.
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In the mid 80s while still on active duty I had just returned from a fairly long deployment. I had been home long enough to become comfortable and sleep soundly at night. We had a small 2 bedroom house in Norwich, CT. We lived in a neighborhood of houses that were all about the same and not a high crime area.

At about 1:30am my wife woke me up to tell me she heard a noise at the front door. I listened but didn’t hear anything, I was not real interested because up to then I thought I was the master of alert and prepared, and I didn’t hear anything.

She woke me again and told me she knows she heard someone not knocking, but forcing the lock on the door. That got my attention, I had enough time to pull on a pair of shorts and grab the 4” Dan Wesson 357 Magnum that spent the nights on my bookshelf headboard before the door to the bedroom opened.

I had the gun up and a sight picture on him before he even knew I was there. The bedroom was dark and the hallway he had just come in from had a fish tank with an always on light. He was perfectly backlit, had a claw hammer & screwdriver in one hand, I couldn’t make out what was in the other hand, I almost took the shot, but it felt like time slowed down and my mind was running fast, I knew I had time to evaluate the threat and went into automatic.

Special weapons security training taught us to yell “stop” or “halt” or “alto” and a couple others I can’t remember anymore if you had time and control. I had the time and upper hand as long as the other hand did not come up. He did stop, dropped the stuff in his hands, and started pleading for me to not shoot him. I got him to put both hands behind head, and drop to his knees.

My ex-wife was screaming hysterically for me to shoot him and he was begging for me not to. He is very lucky I was the one with the gun in my hand because, I’m pretty sure she would have emptied the gun on him at 5-7 feet. The difference of a couple days saved his life.

I can’t remember what was in his other hand now but it was inconsequential. When the local PD got there (about 20 min) they took control of him and did a good search of the house, we had not left the bedroom to secure the rest of the house in case of additional intruders, at the time I only had one gun and it seemed like the logical thing was to stay put with the threat and wait for the Calvary.

When the PD came they came in force, 3 squad cars and the shift supervisor who I knew in passing. He told me he had no idea whose address he was off to at the time, but the call came in as a homeowner holding intruder at gunpoint and got everybody’s attention. I’m pretty sure that was before it was called “home invasion”

The next day, my next door neighbor (about 10 years younger) asked me what happened and told me he had seen this guy at a dance club earlier in the evening. He knew him from school and tried to borrow money.

My best guess is the half drunk intruder thought he was breaking into my neighbor’s house to get stereo equipment or TVs or whatever to pawn for money thinking he would not get home until after closing time.

I saw the guy working in the local package store a couple weeks later, he hurried off to the back room, I talked to the owner of the store and I never saw him in there again. I never asked about any charges but my guess on that would be nothing was done to him in the justice system, but I bet if he breaks into anymore homes he will be sure nobody is home.

Not too long after that we got another gun so we could have his and hers. The other gun was a Dan Wesson also, in 44 Magnum so it could be a bowling pin gun.

This is my current bed gun, still on the headboard. Now I have the light and laser, and my present wife has a CrimsonTrace 442 in her purse next to the bed. We have a dog now too so I get to sleep soundly.
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If I'm dressed, I'm always armed with at least one gun. If not dressed, there's still one or more within reach. Don't misuse the word "paranoid," which implies fear of that which is either not possible, or is so infinitely improbable as to be unimaginable to a rational person. Home invasions and other assaults are real, not imaginary, and not all that uncommon, even in "low crime" areas.
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Not to steal your thread but 2 bad guys did a home invasion in Henderson, NV last night ran away from the original house and broke into the house of an off duty METRO officer. The officer shot 1 in the leg
and Henderson caught the other one !.
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I don't usually carry in the house, but the gun I carried during the day is within arm's reach.
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I read somewhere to never challenge an old man to a fight... if he is too old to fight, he will just shoot you... lol!
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A friend for whom I'll be housesitting soon advises that there have been recent burglaries in his quasi-rural neighborhood involving nighttime entry of occupied residences, attributed to gang members renting a home in the "hood". So far, no one has been injured...
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If I am awake I have my SW99 in .40 loaded to the brim in winchester pdx1 hollowpoints on my hip and my 638 with the same type of loads but in +P on, period. if I am asleep my LED minimag and my sw99 arn't far away, and my brother in law keeps his desert eagle in .50 ae by the bed along with his 'back up gun from hell' a Mac-10 with a full mag of hollow points and my pitbull don't like 'surprise guests' either
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