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Old 06-08-2011, 02:49 PM
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I'm bidding on one of these on eBay for my Model 10. I really like the look of it and heard he made high quality holsters. Do any of you have one for your K-frame, and if so, how do you like it?
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Old 06-08-2011, 04:42 PM
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I have one I bought back in about 1982. Great little holster. Very comfortable and concealable.
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Old 06-08-2011, 07:35 PM
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I bought one of Roy's pancakes when I got my 66-no dash in the mid-70s. I still have both and neither are for sale. Roy made an excellent holster than concealed well. There have been a lot of Roy imitations since but I've yet to find one as good as Roys.
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Old 06-08-2011, 10:14 PM
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Thirded. I bought one, also in the mid-70s and was my off-duty / plainclothes holster for MY model 66 no-dash. ...and like ispcapt, neither of mine are for sale either!

Ispcapt: Did you ever work district 10 during the 70's?
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Old 06-08-2011, 10:24 PM
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I carried my Model 10 2 inch today in the beltslide holster I just got from Ray, and I loved it. Don't have the pancake, but if the slide I got from him is any indication of what he turns out in his pancakes, buy with confidence....that slide was tight, hugged the body, and stayed put all day on my adventures in Metro Atlanta....
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Old 06-09-2011, 01:58 AM
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I had an original Roy Baker pancake for a Colt Detective Special a few years ago. Nobody did the pancake better.
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Old 06-09-2011, 03:20 AM
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Unfortunately I was outbid with 4 seconds to go in the auction. Yeah, 4 seconds. I have to say I'm a little disappointed as I was really looking forward to getting it. I had never seen one of his until I stumbled across that one on eBay, but I will be looking for another. I love how rounded and smooth it is at the bottom.

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Old 06-09-2011, 06:35 AM
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Roy Baker is generally credited with the original pancake holster design. Just about everyone in the business has made pancake-style holsters, and quite a few variations have been offered.

Roy's Pancakes were generally a 3-slot design, allowing both strong-side and cross-draw use, and featured thumb-break retention. They were offered in plain, suede-lined, and basketweave tooled. The stitching patterns were basic ovals, roughly following the contour of the handgun, but abbreviated somewhat. The leather used was about 6-7 oz. weight vegetable-tanned cowhide. Forming was done in a press, with relatively little detail. Basic finishing appears to have been done with neatsfoot oil with a laquer top coat. All of this was typical of the trade during the 1960's to 1980's period.

If I remember correctly, the plain unlined pancakes were about $12.00 back in the mid-1970's. Many gun shops and sporting goods stores had display racks of Roy's Pancakes, indicating that there was some serious marketing effort going on, probably dealer floor-plan deals to grab a large segment of market share.

Overall, a great holster design idea and good quality production work. The fact that just about every holster maker in the world followed suit with pancake designs is a testament to Mr. Baker's contributions to the craft.
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Old 06-09-2011, 07:42 AM
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I will reiterate the comments of Ray (LOBOGUNLEATHER) and add that just about every successful holster maker of the last 40 years owes a tremendous debt to the late, Roy Baker. He was an innovator and his design contribution of the pancake style holster to this industry is nearly unprecedented. Perhaps for over a century prior to the introduction of the pancake style, holsters typically were one piece, fold over designs that usually rode low on the waistline. They changed very little for nearly a hundred years or more. Few makers of the 1940's through the mid 1960's addressed this as modern fashions changed to less concealable clothing. Baker discovered the ideal design in the late 60's or early 70's.

I was delighted to see this post as an opportunity to give the later Roy Baker the ackowledgement his memory so justly deserves. Shooter's, cops and sportsmen alike have benefitted greatly because of this clever design.

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I always liked the Bianchi 8L Shadow holster.
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Old 06-09-2011, 06:21 PM
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.38 Sharpshooter, you were prolly sniped on ebay. Software that waits till the last second and bids a predetermined amount.



How about a 5 slot lefty for my Model 13-1?

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Old 06-10-2011, 08:49 AM
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Ispcapt: Did you ever work district 10 during the 70's?
Nope. I was in District 14 in the 70s.

Got going thru my holsters and confirmed that I still have 3 of Roy's holsters. One for my 4" Mod 66, one for my S&W 39, and one for a Ruger Super Blackhawk.
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I carried a 4" M28 in one and as long as an adequate belt was used it was comfortable and secure. Later a Colt Cobra that I hardly knew was there. A K-frame should be a joy to carry in a Roy pancake.

I don't own a 4" N-frame currently, but the holster isn't for sale. There are plenty of S&Ws out there, but Roy's holsters are getting scarce.
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Old 06-10-2011, 12:16 PM
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I have 2 of ROY'S holsters 1 for a government 1911,and 1 for a mod. 39. they are a little less ridged than holsters made today. Interesting to note that the 1911 holster is designed to be used with the hammer cocked and the retention strap between hammer and slide.
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Old 06-10-2011, 08:33 PM
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One more vote for the Roy Baker pancake. Have one bought in the mid-70's for Model 66 4" and still use it. Very comfortable and no other holster has concealed a full size k-frame for me any better than this one. Only minus I have found is that it is not easily re-holstered one-handed as some other holsters but not a real problem. It was definitely a well thought out design.
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Nope. I was in District 14 in the 70s.
Ah, too bad. My patrol area included Pesotum (I was with the Sheriff's Office) and stopped off for coffee there many nights. Got to know some of the guys and I thought you might have been one of them. (Even dated the night dispatcher for a while -- fell in love with her voice on ISPERN! *hehehehe*)
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Am going to purchase a holster for Mod. 66-4inch. Advantages of lined versus unlined leather holster? Is lined necessary? Will be purchased from Lobo Leather. Thanks, Olman
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Call me naive, but it looks very, very similar to my Bianchi. I would assume the Bianchi is a similar clone of Roy's and readily available. I love mine.
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I have a Roy's original pancake holsters . looks like it is for a k model 3" or 4" it has an open bottom. It is stamped on the bottom line 35 then it looks like a 7 ev or hev stamped on it as well. Can anyone she'd light on this stamp. Patent number appear to be 3135858. Thanks for any help. Kenforgood54
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Am going to purchase a holster for Mod. 66-4inch. Advantages of lined versus unlined leather holster? Is lined necessary? Will be purchased from Lobo Leather. Thanks, Olman
Some folks claim that lined holsters cause less wear to blued guns. I haven't seen that to necessarily be the case, though. If your gun is stainless, there's certainly no need for a lined holster.
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I always liked his ad's ; Roy Baker, the Pancake Maker. LOL.

His design was a game changer. Same for the Rogers, break fronts. Which were molded plastic, or maybe pvc? I don't think kydex was invented yet.
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