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I live in SC, work in NC. Have a SC concealed carry permit.
So I leave home in the morning, drive 6 miles into NC. What do I do with the handgun?
Thanks fo your comments
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07-13-2011, 12:40 PM
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Best I recall SC & NC reciprocate and if that is the case then carry everywhere it is legal and anywhere there is not signs prohibiting carry otherwise leave it locked safely in your trunk. To be sure you can check Handgunlaw.us you can find out all the states that reciprocate.
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They do reciprocate. If you get stopped just make sure to tell the officer up front that you have a SC CCW permit and carry a weapon on you (required in NC).
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thanks for clearing that up.
I had viewed the map before and since SC was in yellow and NC in blue, I ***-U-MED they were not reciprocal. I slowed down and read the fine print.
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07-15-2011, 05:06 AM
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I live in SC. I know I can carry in NC but the laws for the vehicle storage is different in NC than SC. In SC we can have the gun loaded in the glove box, even if you don't have CCP. NC I do not know. I usually leave mine loaded but in the trunk or behind rear most seat of vehicle if no trunk. I hate to be ignorant.
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They do reciprocate. If you get stopped just make sure to tell the officer up front that you have a SC CCW permit and carry a weapon on you (required in NC).
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Shouldn't that be "if you're carrying a weapon on you"?
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My advice; Once you start to hear banjo music pull a U turn.
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what do you mean? that looks just like my place.
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I live in SC, work in NC. Have a SC concealed carry permit.
So I leave home in the morning, drive 6 miles into NC. What do I do with the handgun?
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Not enough info. What time do you leave in the morning and what speed are you traveling each way?
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No...its actually the Welcome Center & Rest Area just as you cross the state line. Over flow parking and pinic/cooking area is here in the back.
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I live in SC. I know I can carry in NC but the laws for the vehicle storage is different in NC than SC. In SC we can have the gun loaded in the glove box, even if you don't have CCP. NC I do not know. I usually leave mine loaded but in the trunk or behind rear most seat of vehicle if no trunk. I hate to be ignorant.
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In North Carolina, the basic gist is the gun can't be easily accessible IF you don't have a concealed carry permit. If you have a permit, doesn't matter if it's on you, under the seat, in the glove box, etc.
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I'd rather be judged by 12, than carried by 6.
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I'd rather be judged by 12, than carried by 6.
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Living in NY, you'd likely be judged
As an almost lifelong NC resident (stuck here in TX for now). If you do NOT have a permit to carry, NC requires the firearm to be in the open (such as on a seat or dash) while SC lets you (maybe requires) you to have it in a console or glovebox.
The above is if you want it to be handy, if not then toss it in the trunk/back of the station wagon/SUV.
I once got stopped by the NC SHP at one of their famous checkpoints. I told the young trooper I had some handguns on the seat. He asked why I had so many. I said "I only have three" while the senior trooper behind he chuckled.
This was when most of the troopers were still carrying the .40S&W 96 with a single spare mag, but the young trooper had a double mag pouch so I knew he was wet behind the ears (the NC SHP issued a dual magazine pouch for the .357SIg Berettas and this was at the start of the transition).
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I live in Georgia and travel to NC & SC alot. We actually have a cabin in the NC mountains. The info here is correct. If you have a SC or GA permit you can conceal carry in NC except into financial institutions, gov buildings, any building where the owner has posted a "no guns allowed" sign, any place that serves alcohol, & you can not have any alcohol in your system while you are carrying. That means you can't have a beer with dinner while carrying a gun.
Without a permit you aren't allowed to have the gun in the car in any area that is accessable to you or any passenger. If you have a trunk, that is where it should be. A locked glove box isn't good enough evidently. The law was left vague enough to allow a local leo to lock up anybody with a gun kept anywhere in their car separate from the locked trunk, if they don't have a permit. It's a crab shoot in NC.
Oh, if you are buying a gun in NC...forget about it if you are from out-of-state. In order to purchase a gun...any gun, you have to go to the local sherriff's office and obtain a weapons purchase permit. Each sherriff can have their own rules, but one rule that is universal is no sales to non NC residents unless it is an antique for a collection, then they still don't have to issue the permit...it's up to the sherriff. Again a crab shoot...
BUT it is legal to open carry in NC without a permit. Again the laws are left vague & have slowly been vetted out by court rulings, but it is legal in the state to walk around with a gun on your hip without a permit. Good luck with that...
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Without a permit you aren't allowed to have the gun in the car in any area that is accessable to you or any passenger.
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Incorrect
NC Department of Crime Control and Public Safety
"Handguns in Vehicles
It is unlawful to carry a concealed handgun in a vehicle unless the person has a North Carolina concealed carry permit. A person who is not a convicted felon may carry a handgun if not concealed. A handgun is concealed in a vehicle if it cannot be readily seen by a person approaching and if it is readily accessible. A handgun under the front seat or in an unlocked glove box or console is illegal. A handgun openly displayed or in a locked glove box, locked console, or in the trunk is lawful"
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Oh, if you are buying a gun in NC...forget about it if you are from out-of-state. In order to purchase a gun...any gun, you have to go to the local sherriff's office and obtain a weapons purchase permit.
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Once again, Incorrect. Long gun purchases go through the federal NICS system unless you choose to use a NC CCW permit or a "pistol purchase permit" which allows you to bypass the NICS check.
Handgun purchases are already restricted to non-FFLs.
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Incorrect
NC Department of Crime Control and Public Safety
"Handguns in Vehicles
It is unlawful to carry a concealed handgun in a vehicle unless the person has a North Carolina concealed carry permit. A person who is not a convicted felon may carry a handgun if not concealed. A handgun is concealed in a vehicle if it cannot be readily seen by a person approaching and if it is readily accessible. A handgun under the front seat or in an unlocked glove box or console is illegal. A handgun openly displayed or in a locked glove box, locked console, or in the trunk is lawful"
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Yeah, that's how it reads when you simply pull it up, there are instances where people have been charged with concealing a gun when it's in the seat because the car itself concealed the weapon. It is the view of some that unless the gun is on the dash for easy viewing you could conceivable be charged with concealing the gun if the car itself blocks the view of the gun. Liberal judges don't care that it stretches the law. That is what they do.
Plus as to the glovebox being a place one can carry a gun without a permit, this quote is from the NCsheriffs.org site:
"It is our recommendation that firearms should not be carried in a glove compartment regardless of whether the compartment is locked or not."
http://www.ncsheriffs.org/images/200...Laws%20Pub.pdf
When the official sheriff's site of NC tells you that it's their view that you should not carry a pistol in the glovebox because it doesn't meet the criteria of the law, you might want to pay attention!!!!
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Once again, Incorrect. Long gun purchases go through the federal NICS system unless you choose to use a NC CCW permit or a "pistol purchase permit" which allows you to bypass the NICS check.
Handgun purchases are already restricted to non-FFLs.
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I was referring to a non resident buying any gun. Non residents must get a purchase permit from the sherrif whether it's a handgun or a rifle. Their law seems to allow for a non-resident to buy a collectable gun as long as the sherriff signs off on it. Again from the same site:
"Under North Carolina law, it is unlawful for any person, firm, or corporation to sell, give away, transfer, purchase, or receive, at any place in the state, any pistol, unless the
purchaser or receiver has first obtained a license or permit to receive such a pistol by the sheriff of the county where the purchaser or receiver resides, or the purchaser or receiver
possesses a valid North Carolina-issued concealed carry permit..."
Plus:
"North Carolina Requirements:
A county sheriff is only authorized under N.C.G.S. § 14-402 to issue a permit to receive or purchase a handgun or crossbow when an application is submitted by a person who is a resident of his or her particular county. The sole exception is that the sheriff may issue a permit to a non-resident when the purpose of the permit is for collecting. Prior to issuing a permit, the sheriff must fully satisfy himself/herself by affidavits, oral evidence, or otherwise, that the applicant is of good moral character and that the person, firm, or corporation
wants to possess the weapon for one of the following purposes:
a. The protection of the applicant’s home, business, person, family, or property; or
b. Target shooting; or
c. Collection; or
d. Hunting."
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That's the first time I've ever heard, that a State allows a NON-resident to purchase a handgun. I thought only residents of a State were allowed to buy handguns in that State, unless of course if they were transferring thru an FFL. Is that what I'm reading?
And one needs a permit to buy a crossbow? Heck NY's better than that.
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The sheriff's group is a political org, I'd listen to what the state says.
The part about issuing a permit to a non-resident means then can issue one to a resident of another NC county, an FFL still can't sell to someone to another state unless they transfer it to a FFL.
Once again (my last post in this thread), someone from another state would be able to buy a long gun in NC. There is no need for a permit since NC uses the feds for the check.
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I live in SC, work in NC. Have a SC concealed carry permit.
So I leave home in the morning, drive 6 miles into NC. What do I do with the handgun?
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No...its actually the Welcome Center & Rest Area just as you cross the state line. Over flow parking and pinic/cooking area is here in the back.
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SUUUEEEEE! SUUUEEEE!
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One post says "If you do NOT have a permit to carry, NC requires the firearm to be in the open (such as on a seat or dash)..."
Another post says "Without a permit you aren't allowed to have the gun in the car in any area that is accessable to you or any passenger. If you have a trunk, that is where it should be. A locked glove box isn't good enough evidently.."
Methinks this is why we all hate having different laws in different states. Now I'm REALLY confused...thank God I have a permit...
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Being a lifelong N.C. resident and retired LEO I will attempt to clear up some of the confusion.
1. It is perfectly legal to carry in N.C. with a S.C. license as long as you follow N.C. laws.
2. Regardless of the statement by the Sheriff's Assoc. it is legal to carry a handgun locked in a glove compartment in N.C. if you do or do not have a CHL.
3. A handgun can be legally carried open on the dash or front seat without a CHL.
4. Residents of adjoining states, with proper ID can purchase long guns in N.C. but not handguns. I have never encountered a situation where an out of state resident has been issued a permit for collecting purposes and I've worked in a gun store for 10 years. Not saying it isn't a law, just saying.
5. The pictured house appears to be someone's hunting cabin based on some of the items outside. Even if it is still being used as someone's home it is no different than many others in N.C. and those other states where the detractors live.
I grew up in one very similar.
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Sounds simple- got a permit, carry it concealed. Don't? Have it in the glovebox in SC, lay it on the seat when you cross the line.
Buying in a different state is no big deal to me, gonna buy in town with my FFL or online anyway.
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The pictured house appears to be someone's hunting cabin based on some of the items outside. Even if it is still being used as someone's home it is no different than many others in N.C. and those other states where the detractors live.
I grew up in one very similar.
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There's nothing wrong with that place that a few minutes with a dustrag wouldn't fix. There is at least one place within walking distance (four miles) from here with a much bigger lot and a lot less organization. Don't recall what the house looked like, but the old double-decker bus is an eye-catcher (or eyesore; beauty is in the eye of the beerholder). However, MA barely recognizes their own carry permits (just joking); they certainly don't recognize anyone else's.
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