Whatever I'm holdin... Just get behind me

on the home front, shotgun is my first choice with a handgun being a very close second.
where I came from in the north woods, when things went bump in the night, more often than not it was some form of critter. some would beat a retreat, others were territorial and would face you down. Shotguns have proven to have the quickest first shot of all weapons, and properly loaded, the most lethal.

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it just needs more voltage

Revolver or Auto makes no difference. It the person that controls it that make the difference.

There's an old addage that used to be my signature line that sezs 'it ain't the gun, but the man behind it'.....

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Before I retired from the Army, it was an M1911A1 or, reluctantly, an M9 for me because that's what we were issued and I wasn't messing with my muscle memory/motor skills. For my wife, it was a double-action revolver.

Since I retired and the odds are rather slim that I'm going to war, it is a double action revolver. In an agency full of Glocksters, I carry a S&W Model 686-6 loaded with Remington 125 grain SJHP .357 Magnum rounds on duty. One of these days a Glockster will beat me during qualification, but it hasn't happened yet.

Off duty, I carry revolvers, too. Can't mess with muscle memory/motor skills.

ECS

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Luke 22:36

256 posts to compare an apple and an orange...



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This thread, Elvis, and Michael Jackson all have one thing in common....

Can you guess what it is???

Nevermind.

ECS

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Luke 22:36

There is not one single handgun that is consistently capable of a "one shot stop." There are both revolvers and pistols that are chambered in calibers that certainly are capable of making a one shot stop but not everytime.

People have died from being shot once by a .22 lr; and peope have survived being shot by .45 acp and .357 Magnum loads.

Its been beaten to death - the original poster's general themes of his posts have convinced me he has an as of yet revealed agenda regarding firearms and defending onesself.

Bottom line - it doesn't matter what the gun is that you are carrying; what matters is (and this is my definition of gun control) the ability to hit what you are aiming at, consistently, until the threat is stopped.

All this is subjective. Any firearm is subject to failure, as for the revolver being abandoned for the auto by the military that is simply not the reason. It is a simple fact that autos are more complicated and experience malfunction from time to time due to either ammo or mechanical problems. Revolvers on rare occasions do the same but are almost always still fire-able even if only as a single action or down a "bad" cartridge.
It was already posted that statistically the gun fight is 2 to 3 rounds and at less than a few feet. And no matter what the gun or caliber these 2-3 rounds are going to determine the out come.
I hate to depend on spray and pray instead of skill and or training. With that said I am not against the auto there are some very dependable and tactical guns and I own and carry some from time to time. I have no doubt I will preform the same with either, the circumstances and the opponents ability will be the difference or it will be a moot point.
I carry a gun with the full knowledge that the gun is my tool for survival and like all tools it's nothing but expensive steel if the craftsman is not up the job. And for all others I hope they are up to the task, both physically and mentally. After the fact is a whole other issue you are going to have to deal with too.
So good luck and be prepared!

I’m having problems with my right hand. The preliminary diagnosis is Radial nerve entrapment resulting in limited mobility and weakness in my right hand and wrist. I’ve been shopping for a pistol with a properly fitting grip that is also light and concealable. The trigger on my snubby is as light as I can make it but a pistols trigger usually starts out even lighter. I went to my local gun shop and tried the Glock 19, Springfield compact and an M&P9c. Even though I’m an S&W fan I tried to keep an open mind while comparing these 3 fine firearms. I preferred the M&P9c, it had the best feeling trigger, fit my hand the best and had the best balance for me. It weighs only about 1 ounce more than my 442 with a Pachmayr grip and laserlyte laser sight installed and it looks small enough for pocket carry. I can carry the M&P9c with an extra loaded mag and have nearly half a box of ammo on me. The snubby would serve as backup on my left side. It’s hard for me to call my left side my weak side. I’m right handed but because of my condition my left hand’s stronger. Just need to raise the funds.

Good reminder for any discussion like this.

Along the same lines, my dad, who has had a lot of real life combat experience, will remind us now and then that statistics are "... just statistics."

The US military was still purchasing revolvers long after 1911. Most of the Navy and Marine pilots carried revolvers during WW 2. They were issued tracer rounds to use for signaling rescue watercraft and aircraft. Lt. John F. Kennedy was carrying a 38 revolver during the rescue of the PT 109 crew. The Air Force Air Police (later Security Police) carried mostly S&W Combat Masterpieces up until the M9 began to be issued. Semi autos are flatter and easier to conceal. Semi autos have the advantage in firepower until the magazines run dry. Loading a revolver with loose rounds of ammo works pretty well. Running and auto dry and then reloading loose rounds into the magazine(s) seems a little slower. A revolver will handle light loads or heavy loads without any change or trouble. An autos recoil spring is adjusted for bullet weight and pressure. The revolver is faster to get into action for the first shot. There is no safety to work and you don’t have to worry about whether a round is in the chamber or not. A revolvers grip is more natural and can be changed to suit the shooter. The autos grip size is dictated by the size of the cartridge and magazine capacity. The revolver is not critical as to bullet shape from wadcutter to round ball. If the cartridges will go into the chambers and the cylinder will turn, it will usually work. You don’t have to go shoot a couple of hundred rounds to see if it is reliable with a certain type of ammo. A revolver doesn’t depend on a box magazine. Most magazines are flimsy sheet metal and easily damaged. An auto may be sensitive to different brands of magazines. Some magazines may not work with some types of magwells. Revolvers don’t sling brass all over the place or throw it at the shooter or others. You don’t have to spend so much time picking brass up at the range. If you reload ammunition, it is a lot easier to find all your brass. Revolvers are better for long range shots. The sights are taller and allow more elevation. Their single action triggers are better than most automatics, especially double actions or Glocks. The revolver will fire if pressed hard against an adversary. Many autos will be pushed out of battery from such pressure and will not fire. A revolver will usually work fine if fired from inside a coat pocket. An auto will usually malfunction due to the slide tangling with the fabric. That means you can have a revolver in your hand and ready to fire while completely concealed. An adversary won’t know you are armed until the bullets hit him. An auto can have the safety accidentally disengaged or have the magazine accidentally released. This makes it more likely to fire when you don’t want it to or not fire when you want it to. A dud cartridge in an auto means you have to eject that cartridge and chamber another round. On a revolver, you just pull the trigger again. A squib cartridge will generally put either type out of action. Revolvers can handle cartridges from 22 Short to 500 Magnum.

Jimmy's solution: carry both ! (and a cell phone)
In the house, yard, neighborhood I CCW a S&W "J" Frame 2".
Shopping, Dinner out, Movie, etc I add a Glock Semi-Auto with an extra magazine to my "J" Frame. Reason: BGs mostly run in "Packs" and if "Push Comes To Shove" and Retreat (i.e. Run Away") is not an option, I want FIREPOWER.

Bad guys DO often run in "packs." This is just one answer to the dumb question "Why do you need a magazine that holds so many rounds?"

Our home fire extinguishers are not limited to seven ounces of fire retardant. Why? Because you might have a BIG fire!

Do you NEED a high-cap magazine? Simple answer: YES.

John

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Dumb question, indeed! The only people that ask that question are people that have no clue what they are talking about or people who are part of the gun banning agenda. I need magazines that carry fifteen rounds in my home defense pistol because I can't carry spares in my underwear.

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A semi-auto is easier to conceal, quicker reloads and more rounds to begin with. A revolver is more reliable as a rule, has a better trigger as a rule and are easier for the average shooter to master.

I can't believe someone revived a Sirrduke thread!!

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Life Is A Gift. Defend it!

Zombie thread.

Pleeeeeze let it die.

No!

ECS

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Luke 22:36

Don't make me tell dirty jokes to get this thread locked. <G>

SirDuke is gone, but several times new posters come on and revive his threads.....

Coincidence?


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