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Old 05-06-2014, 11:06 AM
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I don't want to start a firestorm today but since I have a few Browning Hi-Power pistols I have given some thought of making one an alternate carry gun. Anyone else use one as a carry gun? My plan is to use 124grn or 147 grn ammo as a defense round.

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Don't know why it would start anything either, if that's what floats your boat. MHO? A skosh big and heavy for EDC, but that's me.
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Old 05-15-2014, 07:43 PM
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Carry a HP all the time with un-tucked shirt . Don't even know it's there. Flat and slender and very,very easy to shoot accurate and reliable. At a $1000 a pop today for a new one with tax and worth every penny!! When I carry a belt gun it's a Colt 1911,45,38super or a 9mm Browning Hp.When you are gonna fill a holster it pay's to carry the best.
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I have owned 3 FEG HP9's in the past, and for some reason sold them. I found this one by accident at a local gun shop about 10 days ago for $250...so I took it home. It fits nicely in my pants pockets using a very thin suede pocket holster designed for something else. Loaded with Remington Golden Sabers...it's a B series SN, probably 1990's, all factory stock and near perfect...



I have always liked the BHP and the 1922 Browning designs...IMO, vast improvements over the 1911...both very usable carry pistols today. And the FEG is far lighter than many of the big revolvers I used to carry, even with a full mag.
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Did someone say BHP?

I love mine!

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I bought this HP in early '72 just after I got back from Vietnam. I was "asked" to take part in local operations to catch people who were stealing materiel from an Army fort, mostly guns and explosives, and selling them.
The experienced guys carried mostly Government Models (I don't recall ever hearing anyone saying "nineteen-eleven"), but a few had Hi Powers. Based on their recommendation for the high capacity and the effectiveness of Super Vel ammo, I bought one.
I had acquired a forced proficiency with the GM, but never took to the HP. I gave it to a colleague in the mid-'80s. I know where he lives, so when I read this thread I asked to borrow it for a pic. He RELUCTANTLY agreed and reminded me that HE "knows where I live!" I guess he wants it back . . ..
As I was photographing it I noticed the cartouch on the right side of the trigger guard, and on the barrel over the chamber. It appears to be a crown over an oval with "PV" in the middle. I can't figure out what is between them, and which seems to form part of the chevron below them.
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Apart from the 1911, no other semi-auto pistol has as much real-world combat experience as the Browning High Power 9mm. It was standard issue for around 55 or so countries, and the only issue anyone ever had was the small nub thumb safety, which is slow to disengage when the pistol is carried in Condition 1.

That was no real issue to certain special forces, however, as they just carried it in Condition 0 instead and avoided the problem entirely. Condition 0 is cocked and UN-locked. In other words, cocked with thumb safety in the off position. With the trigger pull weight of 6 or 7 pounds in military guise, such carry method was no less safe than the modern day striker fired pistols which generally have a lighter trigger pull, with admittedly longer "slack."

The majority of High Powers, however, were carried in Condition 3, magazine usually with 12, instead of 13 rounds, as a fully loaded magazine is sometimes problematic to lock-in with the slide closed, and empty chamber.

The High Power Mark III, and the current pistols from FN have a MUCH better thumb safety, allowing a true Condition 1 carry with proper quick disengagement of the thumb safety.

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.....I noticed the cartouch on the right side of the trigger guard, and on the barrel over the chamber. It appears to be a crown over an oval with "PV" in the middle. I can't figure out what is between them, and which seems to form part of the chevron below them.
Can somebody tell me what they are?
It's actually what's colloquially known as a "Pineapple Proof". Up until the late '60s, BHPs were marked with a pair of proof stamps; the "Belgian Lion over P.V."...smokeless powder (Poudre Vive) proof and the "Proof of Liege" final proof which consisted of a crowned oval within which are the letters E.L.G. (Epreuve de Liege).

The "Crowned Oval P.V." "Pineapple Proof" combined the two .....
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IMO, Browning did good with the 1911, but he really got it right with the BHP...the 1922 is a classic piece of machine design, too, and I occasionally carry one of those...
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Well this is a "old" thread........ that never dies........ but it is the S&W Forum.........

By 1990...........

I had retired my Walther PPK in favor of a S&W 3913........

My 1911 for a Sig 220.......

My Browning HP in favor of a 6906.........I later added a 5906 and 915 to my high-cap carry list.

Today the PPK only comes out with "formal dress"..... the 1911s are long gone..... but I still have 2 Brownings that often go to the range in 9mm or with a Ceiner .22 conversion Kit.

For a full size service automatic....... they carry like a compact and fit almost everyone's hand like the per-verbal glove...... the HP will always get two thumbs up from me!!

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As much as I hate it, my high power is now doing duty as a "Fun at the range" gun only. The overall benefits of carrying my Shield 9 for edc cannot be dismissed. The Browning is just too heavy to carry, and the additional 5 rounds don't compensate.

I've MADE myself carry the BHP because I like it, but at the end of the day my back screams "why are you doing this to me when you can be just as protected without torturing me?" It's a sad realization
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isn't it strange...Two of the most desired and sought after semi auto's are from designs over 100 years old......Mr Browning obviously knew his stuff......I have either owned or fired both in all kind of shape. Seem they were all dependable.....I remember while in the Corps qualifying with a old 1911 that had some much play in it , yet I qualified and never had a fail to fire.....I have never ran into a BHP that I wouldn't trust my life with...Says a lot for old designs...I guess when you get it right the first time no need to change it...God bless John Moses Browning......
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Old 11-23-2014, 10:41 AM
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I wonder two things after considering this thread:

How does a hi power handle in relation to an M&P FS?

How do you ever get past how beautiful a well blued HP looks?

The old GM's and HP's, while not as practical certainly do a helluva better job pleasing the eye than say a glock or M&P does...
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An old thread revisited. I still am carrying one of my Hi-Powers whenever I think I may need Hi-cap . Over 40 years using the Browning and I am still very comfortable with it.
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A "T" (1967) Browning HP sits at my side as I type this. I'm a happy man.
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Browning was probably the greatest firearms designer who ever lived, but it was Saive who made the High Power into the svelte classic that it is.
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Monsieur Saive was also a genius in his own right. He designed the FN-FAL battle rifle, after all.
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It's actually what's colloquially known as a "Pineapple Proof". Up until the late '60s, BHPs were marked with a pair of proof stamps; the "Belgian Lion over P.V."...smokeless powder (Poudre Vive) proof and the "Proof of Liege" final proof which consisted of a crowned oval within which are the letters E.L.G. (Epreuve de Liege).

The "Crowned Oval P.V." "Pineapple Proof" combined the two .....
I had never paid attention to these marks. So. out of curiosity, I removed my BHP 69C vintage from its holster (I'm about to go out) and checked. There it is! I learned something new. BHP back on hip. I'm out of here.
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since you brought it up...Some time back I shot a japanese take off on a SW 39...The big difference was the finish on the pistol and it had the type of trigger you spoke about....that trigger was far before it's time..I always thought it would fill the void between single action as the regular single action pistols and the double action first shot pistols...Back then it cost about 350.00 and was sort of a **** shot as there was really no reliable testing on it....I wondered why some body at least one of the enhancement company's didn't take advantage of the design...
wish my old brain remembered the name of it.....If anyone remembers the name forward it just for my memory's sake....Thanks guys you can always get an answer on this sight. It is interesting that somebody did a take off on that action, or basically took that action and probable enhanced it.....
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.....I remember while in the Corps qualifying with a old 1911 that had some much play in it , yet I qualified and never had a fail to fire.....I have never ran into a BHP that I wouldn't trust my life with...Says a lot for old designs...I guess when you get it right the first time no need to change it...God bless John Moses Browning......
I remember in the late '60's Army, the 1911's would rattle when shaken, and the thought was to replace them with DA larger capacity 9mm's...

And when that happened, people started calling for those old .45's back again...

Browning did get it right quite often!
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If the bottom hadn't fallen out of the real estate market a few years ago, I'd still have this one.

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Now this is an OLD thread--but a GOOD one. Jeff Cooper had good things to say about the BHP in his book, "Fighting Handguns",1959. First time I ever shot one was at a Canadian pistol match in 1960; a borrowed Canadian Army Inglis in a "commando match". Pretty racy stuff in a revolver-oriented bullseye shoot.

Just picked up a 1990 Mark III in minty condition today. The mag disconnect has to go, and a set of Spegel grips are the only way to fly.

Can't remember a gun-related thread with as many glowing comments as this one. All true.
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Carry the gun. Get a good holster rig and wear it. It's too much for me to carry something like that, but you don't need my opinion.
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Well... a nice example of the Inglis tribe...





There's still lots of them hard at work:



But there's better BHPs available for EDC...

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Oh yes... the OPs question... this has become more of a "cool HPs" thread and I kind of forgot about that. Although, he probably made his decision about five years ago.

Of course you can carry them. I carry in a Tucker Texas Heritage IWB tuckable holster, the belt slide seen above, or an original Uncle Mike's Sidekick, depending on the carry environment and purpose. The Inglis does not get carried.

Carry ammo (should anyone actually care) is Federal HST 147 grain standard pressure ammunition.
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To some it's a pocket gun! He has taken from the small of his back at times so he at least believes in belt/mexican carry
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............Browning Hi Power when the custom gun folks just down the road added their version of it to their line up.

Browning Hi Power - 1911 Pistols
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Very nice! From reading the list of customizations, I could very easily get use to one of those.
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Horseshoe Leather out of the UK makes an excellent custom Small of Back holster that is awesome for the BHP. Takes awhile to get it because they are always backlogged. Nothing wrong with a BHP. Enjoy.
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My .40 caliber Mark III is my alternate carry gun (in a Bianchi X-15 shoulder holster when I'm on the road). With a spare mag on my belt I don't feel under gunned in the least. It's the best shooting .40 caliber I own. Added a couple of pics:

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I carry a 1911.... if I had a HP I would have no problem carrying it.
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This thread makes me post a couple more of my lamented BHP by Heirloom Precision. The detail of the work was just outstanding, as you can see from this front sight with the inlayed band of gold.



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That is one fine BHP Guevera. I can understand the pain of missing that one.
Tell us about the knife with it up above.
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This one is with me a lot lately. The High Power is my old '67 T; holster is an Israeli IWB lefty.
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I carry a 1911.... if I had a HP I would have no problem carrying it.
I'm sure you wouldn't. The HP is only slightly leaner...

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I usually don't carry this one; it's relegated to the car. It's in condition 3 mostly. Note that I'm left-handed and there's no ambi safety on this '67 T High Power. My 442 or 649 is always with me.
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I usually don't carry this one; it's relegated to the car. It's in condition 3 mostly. Note that I'm left-handed and there's no ambi safety on this '67 T High Power. My 442 or 649 is always with me.
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Us SoCal guys have similar tastes. An EGW T-Series and my Novak. I am not a big fan of the BHP trigger, but lord do they feel good in the hand and carry great.
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