National Right-to-Carry Reciprocity Act to be voted on in the U.S. House of Representatives this week!

On Tuesday, November 15, the U.S. House of Representatives will vote on H.R. 822, the "National Right-to-Carry Reciprocity Act." Please contact your U.S. Representative and urge him/her to vote for this pro-gun legislation. This important bill would allow any law-abiding concealed carry permit holder to legally carry a concealed firearm while visiting any state that does not prohibit concealed carry.

Please contact your Representative NOW!!! and urge him/her to vote for H.R. 822, the "National Right-to-Carry Reciprocity Act".

My Florida CCP allows that already, or at least I thought...

Ill have to research further when I get home

This is ANY state. Florida is not honored in many states.

Some would argue it is not a good thing to allow the feds to push "the nose of the camel" into the individual states CCW tent, and allow them to set the national standards. Remember, they could, and would, severely increase your states restrictions under the guise of creating "uniform" laws.
House Vote Coming Soon on CCW Reciprocity Bill - Gun Owners Of America

Please explain what stops them from "severely increase[ing] your states restrictions under the guise of creating "uniform" laws." without conferring nationwide reciprocity?

They do not need the passage of this bill in order to "push "the nose of the camel" into the individual states CCW tent," they can do whatever they like.

Ken

While on the face of it I just do NOT trust Congress to keep it to a simple 1 page Act. Instead, if it becomes Law it will span 200 pages of more and all those extra pages will be full of restrictions, requirements, and new requirements. Just suppose they require you to submit to a Mental Health Examination on your dime. I expect that Exam will likely cost in excess of 1500 dollars and you'll have to shop around to find an Examiner who won't fail you simply because he doesn't like guns. Think about it, we now have a National Health Care Law that spans more than 2500 pages that were in large part written by the Health Insurance Lobby. Do you really want a National Carry Law that is written in large part by the Anti Gun Lobby? I'll pass.

Part of me thinks National Reciprocity is a good thing, sort of like my driver's license, but then I agree with some of the above posters, do I trust Congress? Not right now.

Perhaps Congress needs to pass a law that says all future laws must be no longer than two type written pages long and must be presented in layman's terms, not legalese. If a fifth grader can't understand it, it can't become law.

Like Princess Nancy Pelosi said during the Health Care debacle, "we have to pass it in order to know what's in it"...

My two Senators and my congressman would love to vote for a law like that. They probably think (he whose name must not be mentioned) is a right winger.

Does this have a snowballs chance of getting through the senate?

My CCP instructor told us the Florida license was one of the most widely recognized in the country.

Not having to worry about it sure would make it easier tho.

If the NRA likes HR822, I like HR822.

I don't have time to do the homework on every bill in congress, nor the ability to look for hidden nuance in every bill. That's why I pay the NRA (and others) to look out for my interests.

That sir is a very intelligent idea. I know some 6 syllable words and even a few 7 syllable ones, but a very good orator once told me to keep my classes simple, speak so a fourth grader can understand what you are saying.

That's not saying people are stupid, it means it will be easy to follow and folks won't get lost along the way trying to figure out what you meant two sentences ago.

Can you imagine if everyone could comprehend the Federal laws and there were no arguments over what the lawmakers 'truly intended'???

The law has a 0% chance of becoming law as is. Knowing that, why anyone would want to deal with the possible nonsense that's surely to appear is beyond me.

The Facts About H.R. 822, the "National Right to Carry Reciprocity Act"

Unfortunately, but predictably, H.R. 822 continues to be attacked by anti-gun organizations and the media. Regrettably, even some so-called "pro-gun" organizations have joined with the anti-gun Brady Campaign and Michael Bloomberg's Mayors Against Illegal Guns to try to defeat this pro-gun bill.

This critically important legislation, introduced earlier this year by Congressmen Cliff Stearns (R-Fla.) and Heath Shuler (D-N.C.) and cosponsored by more than 240 of their colleagues, would enable millions of permit holders to exercise their right to self-defense while traveling outside their home states.

There is currently only one remaining state (Illinois) that has no legal way for individuals to carry concealed firearms for self-defense. Forty states have permit systems that make it possible for any law-abiding person to obtain a permit, while most of the others have discretionary permit systems. (Vermont has never required a permit.)

H.R. 822 would mark a major step forward for gun owners' rights by significantly expanding where permits are recognized. Dozens of states have passed Right-to-Carry laws over the past 25 years, because the right to self-defense does not end when one leaves home. However, interstate recognition of permits is not uniform and creates great confusion and potential problems for travelers. While many states have broad reciprocity, others have very restrictive reciprocity laws, and a few deny recognition completely.

H.R. 822 would solve this problem by requiring that lawfully issued carry permits be recognized in all states with some form of a permit system, while protecting the ability of the various states to determine the areas where carrying is prohibited within their boundaries.

Opponents of the legislation claim that it tramples on "states rights." States, however, don't have rights, they have powers. And while many anti-gun lawmakers who've long pushed national gun bans, national bans on private gun sales, national waiting periods and other federal restrictions have suddenly become born-again advocates of "states' rights" in opposing this bill, several provisions in the U.S. Constitution give Congress the authority to enact interstate carry. Congress also has the power to protect the rights of citizens, nationwide, under the 14th Amendment (please see related article from last week's Grassroots Alert).

Next, despite what a few so-called "pro-gun" activists have argued, this bill would not create a federal licensing or registration system, nor would it establish a minimum federal standard for carry permits. Rather, it would require the states to recognize each others' carry permits, just as they recognize driver's licenses and carry permits held by armored car guards. Unfortunately, these self-proclaimed "gun rights" supporters, who have no active lobbying presence in any legislature, have an agenda that has very little to do with promoting the interests of gun owners. Here are the FACTS about a few of their claims:

Myth: H.R. 822 would involve the federal bureaucracy in setting standards for carry permits, resulting in "need" requirements, higher fees, waiting periods, national gun owner registration, or worse.

FACT: H.R. 822 doesn't require-or even authorize-any such action by any federal agency. In fact, since it would amend the Gun Control Act, it would fall under a limitation within that law that authorizes "only such rules and regulations as are necessary to carry out" the GCA's provisions. No federal rules or regulations would be needed to implement H.R. 822, which simply overrides certain state laws.

Myth: H.R. 822 would destroy permitless carry systems such as those in Arizona, Alaska, Vermont and Wyoming.

FACT: H.R. 822 would have absolutely no effect on how the permitless carry states' laws work within those states. For residents of Arizona, Alaska and Wyoming, where permits are not required but remain available under state law, H.R. 822 would make those permits valid in all states that issue permits to their own residents. Residents of Vermont, where no permits are issued or required, could obtain nonresident permits from other states to enjoy the benefits of H.R. 822.

Myth: If H.R. 822 moved through the legislative process, it would be subject to anti-gun amendments.

TRUTH: By this logic, neither NRA, nor any other pro-gun group, should ever promote any pro-gun reform legislation. But inaction isn't an option for those of us who want to make positive changes for gun owners. Instead, we know that by careful vote counting and strategic use of legislative procedure, anti-gun amendments can be avoided or defeated.

H.R. 822 is a good bill for gun owners. Don't listen to false or misleading accusations; instead, read the bill and our fact sheet explaining its provisions. Then, please contact your member of Congress and urge him or her to support the earliest possible consideration of H.R. 822 this year.

Originally Posted by Mphstiger1981

"Perhaps Congress needs to pass a law that says all future laws must be no longer than two type written pages long and must be presented in layman's terms, not legalese. If a fifth grader can't understand it, it can't become law."

Is there much doubt that's exactly WHY laws are written in legalese? Talk about job security. People misinterpret the Constitution even, but the Founders wrote their reasoning on the laws and people who dislike the Constitution- like our president- fail intentionally to recognize those supplemental wrirtings. IMHO

Is this the correct forum for such a remark? Al Queda dot com is thata way ------->

It's all about fund raising by the NRA.
First off it won't become law.
Second a lot of us gun types don't want anything to do with this bill.

AFS

I thought it was all along the same lines a 'legalese' and lawyer-talk. Didn't intend to be that political.