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10-20-2013, 12:31 AM
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Practice and more practice makes perfect
Island man popping in and would love to ask a ? The thing is In the states most of you guys have the low cost of rounds at your disadvantage, But how often do you guys go to the range, and take part in tactical training, here at home we call it the " Saturday Rumble" where real life scenarios are set up with different stages, 3 new one every week, not just the standing up and shooting at a piece of cardboard?????
Today I took part in my 3rd rumble, I try to make it every other Saturday, when I can spare the change. Most of us acquire this false sense of security because we know we have a loaded firearm, but when we are caught in a position where we have to defend self or family (did'nt say property, because it can always be replaced), we realise we cannot shoot an object 10ft in front of of us. So I saw from you have it, work the hell out of it, join groups that own a legal piece and go practice, peeping, running, jumping and crawling targets. Yes grouping is good yes but , you will never find a gun man standing in front of you saying put a group of three here or there, but will be moving and baking some shots(Jt) after you, so train to take away yourself (Jamaican talk) while still trying to defend yourself. My first 2 cents to this forum.
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10-20-2013, 12:55 AM
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I do the same thing in IDPA matches except we use live ammo. (much more realistic that way ). I also do dry runs in my shop at home.
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10-20-2013, 01:08 AM
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Yess we do use live ammo, and I must say, I must say, I'm getting more confident and more accurate while moving or at moving targets.
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10-20-2013, 08:29 AM
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No question that frequent and realistic training is beneficial, the more the better. That said, the cold, hard fact is this. No matter how real your training might be, you know in the back of your mind you'll be going home when it's over. God forbid it does, but till the real thing happens, you don't really know how you'll react.
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10-20-2013, 08:32 AM
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Cool.
Dynamic practice scenarios are far more interesting than simply standing on a line shooting at targets. They are also far more dangerous.
The very best shooting training I ever experienced went beyond even that what you described. The training added a vehicle to the mix. The LEO drove whatever he/she was assigned to a fixed point in response to a radio call. For safety and logistical reasons, the scenario was the same for all. It did require you to stop, shutdown the vehicle, exit, and fire with a handgun and long gun from vehicle "cover." The trainee then progressed to a series of shoot situations (pop up targets...good guys and bad guys) that involved firing whilst moving/running, reloads, and taking "cover" where available. "Cover" consisted of a mail drop box, a telephone pole, a fire hydrant, and a curb. (Yes, I do know the difference between cover and concealment. )
Believe me, it was incredibly stressful and physically challenging.
That said, I applaud your endeavor. But do be careful.
Be safe.
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10-20-2013, 09:35 AM
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My 2 cents,
I always tell me students that pratice will do nothing to make you a better shooter. what I mean by this is if you go to the range and shoot a paper plate 10 times at ten yrds in ten secs then go to the range next week and shoot a paper plate 10 time at ten yrds in 10 secs. you did nothing but wasted ten rnds. you need to TRAIN then practice what you TRAINED. push your self try doing it in 8 secs then at 12 yrds make it harder every time. I train at the range and practice in the basement doing dry fire, reloads ect.train hard and practice what you do in training but don't go to the range and do what you did last week. TRAIN TRAIN TRAIN! hope this is clearer then mud.
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10-20-2013, 10:21 AM
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I agree, while punching paper teaches you the basics of shooting, you need something interactive to get you thinking on your feet. Don't forget to include NO SHOOT targets mixed in with the pop ups because you never know when a panicked bystander is going to run through the field of fire just as you're drawing a bead on the bad guy.
Unfortunately I've only been to one IPSC-type shoot and I had a blast. In my late teens - early 20's the LGS had "Good Guy / Bad Guy" shoots where you would walk into a dark room (the range), load your weapon, holster and call "ready." The lights would come on and you had 5 targets in front of you at varying ranges. Two of those targets wore badges or some other designation IDing them as NO SHOOT. You had 5 seconds to ID the targets and double tap each one center mass before the lights went back out. Shots fired after the lights went out were a minus 1. You would reload in the dark (if you needed to or not), holster and call ready. Then you would have 4 seconds to repeat the stage. When all the shooters went through the stage, the targets were reset and you did it again only with 4 seconds then 3 seconds for the 2 stages. The winner was declared by score after the 4 stages had been fired. Not to brag, but I had "helped" my dad who was the range officer for his department qualify his officers, so I got more than a little practice in too, so I won several 1st place trophies during the GG/BG shoots, simple yet it was fun and gave me a small taste of "real life" shooting.
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