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Old 01-09-2014, 06:12 PM
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"If I tell you I'll have to kill you"

Then keep a really straight face.


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"If I tell you I'll have to kill you"

Then keep a really straight face...


Sounds like a good way to get a free ride downtown to Jail when the guy calls the cops and says you threatened to kill him while carrying a Gun.
Just kill him before he gets a chance to call the cops.


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... Seldom does anyone with strong feelings change their mind as the result of an argument.
Phrases I'll never hear.

"Hmmm, you're right. I'll change my religion this afternoon"

"Hmmm, you're right. I'll go vote for the other guy"

"Hmmm, you're right. I've changed my mind about Gun Control (abortion, stem cells, buying from Larry Potterfield, Dillon vs Lee presses)"


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Just a thought, in regards to the OP. If someone has no real knowledge about guns (they were talking about getting their first one) then it would be safe to say they aren't knowledgeable about cc etiquette or steeped in gun culture, and you got to figure they don't have a clue about those questions being out of bounds. They don't know what they don't know.
That would be like expecting a boy raised by wolves to know you should never ask a woman her age.
I wouldn't tell them I was carrying if they asked me, but I wouldn't be upset by the question.
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An answer one could use to that question is from the movie "Unforgiven" when the Duke (Duck) of Death (Richard Harris) replies: "Let me assure you young man, neither I nor my companions carry firearms on our persons. We rely on the good nature of our fellow man and the forbearance of reptiles."

or just say "no"-I think that'd what I would do.
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"Hmmm, you're right. I'll change my religion this afternoon"

"Hmmm, you're right. I'll go vote for the other guy"

"Hmmm, you're right. I've changed my mind about Gun Control


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Why do you want to know?

(insert stupid remark leading to another stupid question)

Answer:
You undoubtedly know that I have a handgun permit.

(insert stupid remark leading to another stupid question)

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I don't feel comfortable discussing this subject with you.

(insert stupid remark leading to another stupid question)

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I have had something similar happen to me a couple times, once my son was with me. As I had told him from my previous experience, play dumb. I acted like I don't know what they mean by "are you carrying" umm, not sure I understand, carrying what? "oh never mind" is the normal reply. If the person persists, I say no or why would I carry a gun?

Nobody's business. If I open carry, and they ask, (which has happened) I just look at them weird and shake my head and walk away.

You did good by the way.. Just say no!
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Considering your background and what you've disclosed in the past, this surprises me.
I'm not sur what you mean here. If by background you mean the fact that I am a Christian I am absolutely convinced that there are some lies that are OK.

If I were sitting in a Dr's office and he asked me if I owned guns I would look him right in the eye and say no.

As for my past it is the precise reason I would say no now although to be honest only one person has really asked (and I told him no)
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I was in uniform one day complete with star, duty belt, duty holster, OC spray, baton, handcuffs, and a rather large 4 inch Smith & Wesson Model 686 when a citizen asked me if I was armed. Just sayin'.

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I was in uniform one day complete with star, duty belt, duty holster, OC spray, baton, handcuffs, and a rather large 4 inch Smith & Wesson Model 686 when a citizen asked me if I was armed. Just sayin'.

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I was put on the spot two days ago by a friend with several people around in a public place...he asked me point blank if I was carrying and he knew that I always do...I gave him a look as if to say...did you really ask that and then said...of course not...he called me later and apologized...my answer in public will always be no
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I asked if I was still wearing pants. The citizen looked and said, "Oh!" At least I wasn't carrying my rifle.

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My friends that know I carry ask me all the time, I always answer no. The only person that knows I am carrying no matter what I say is the wife. Because she knows I carry no matter what. Sometimes I will tell my friends at a later time or when we get home that I was carrying. They don't carry and don't understand why I lie about it.

I've had a couple friends accidently touch my gun and ask what it was. I just say my cell phone in a case. I never have my phone in a case but they pay no attention to it.

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Lots of people I deal with daily know that my business is holsters and accessories, primarily for those who need to carry concealed. I am regularly asked if I am carrying. I always tell them that the true test of my products is whether or not they can tell!
A few years ago I was traveling to Charlotte Autofair with my best friend, who happens to be a doctor. After a few hours we had to stop for gas late at night along the interstate, and choices were limited when we got off the exit.
After a couple of minutes of pumping gas in this very sketchy area with people milling around the store front, he asks "are you carrying?" with a hopeful look on his face. I replied "do I look like the kind of guy who would have a gun?". After he gave a nervous chuckle and a look like "well, are you?", I raised my shirt tail so he could see the 642 in my Lobo cross draw.
He has since developed a strong interest in hand guns and owns several, and has taken the concealed carry course.
Even my wife is surprised sometimes when we return home and I remove my Lobo (an excellent holster, btw). She always thinks it's in my pocket.
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Just a thought, in regards to the OP. If someone has no real knowledge about guns (they were talking about getting their first one) then it would be safe to say they aren't knowledgeable about cc etiquette or steeped in gun culture, and you got to figure they don't have a clue about those questions being out of bounds. They don't know what they don't know.
That would be like expecting a boy raised by wolves to know you should never ask a woman her age.
I wouldn't tell them I was carrying if they asked me, but I wouldn't be upset by the question.
He's not a bad guy, and I will see him again in February. Since we'll be in Switzerland, I won't be carrying. It's a good discussion point on he etiquette and further his education.

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Like Lobo I get asked the question as a matter of profession.

I look at it as a chance to help someone who, most of the time is a responsible person who just doesn't know they may have breached etiquette or put someone on the spot.

if it's in a crowd or some such I may not answer, if it's more intimate and I know the person enough I may answer but I do NOT show them the weapon and I explain why, that it is a safety thing that I do not draw the weapon unless necessary in a public place. That the safest place for the firearm is in its proper holster.

If it is a non-public place I may be able to unload and demonstrate a gun, but I prefer to not go from "loaded carry weapon" to "unloaded demonstration weapon" if at all possible. It's only ever come up with employees who need to be educated as part of the job, and again I take that as a teaching moment about how to properly clear a weapon, going through the rules as I go and it's only me and that person in the room.

There are a lot of people out there looking at buying a gun for the first time, maybe carrying a handgun when they are only familiar with long guns or no guns. Don't breach your own rules but I have no problems trying to answer their questions so long as safety isn't breached for anyone. Most aren't trying to be smart*****es they genuinely are trying to wrap their minds around carrying and if they should do it and how it works. At least those who approach me are in that mode, but again that's job specific in many ways.

Now, out in public with some dipstick trying to act macho? No I'm not answering that question honestly or trying to engage in an educating moment. I'm just not carrying at that point even if I am, which I am unless I'm someplace it's straight up illegal.
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I'm in a small office and we had a salesman from Ohio visiting and he wants to get his first gun so we start talking. All guns are Glocks and all rifles are assault weapons to this guy, so I can do a little educating. I ask pretty standard questions, what have you shot in the past, what do you want to use it for, where will you store it...

Conversation shifts to concealed carry I explain NH law, and I tell him I can give him no advice on Ohio law. He then flat out asked me "are you carrying right now?"

I hesitate for about 2 seconds and tell him no. He picks up on the hesitation and doesn't believe me. I get him off the topic and we go our separate ways.

It's none of his concern if I'm carrying or not. If I tell him yes, his next likely question will be show me. Not gonna happen.

I will not discuss guns with him in the future.

Anyone ever run into something similar? How did you handle it? Any advice for next time?

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I carried concealed every day, and had that type of question frequently. Are you armed, can I see it, please, pretty please, can I hold it? And the begging goes on nearly every day. I reacted just like you, I did not ever reveal where on my body it was, and never showed it to anyone.
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As someone that just got his first pistol and is planning to conceal carry this thread has been awesome! I will not be looking for a situation like this but if I ever end up in one I will be prepared for it after reading this.
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As someone that just got his first pistol and is planning to conceal carry this thread has been awesome! I will not be looking for a situation like this but if I ever end up in one I will be prepared for it after reading this.
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Welcome to the world of carry Muddratt. Forums are a great place to gather information, but sometimes things can and do go bad no matter how right you are and we are in an epic battle for our rights. A state or city hostile to citizen gun ownership sometimes cannot be avoided. Check this story that a family friend just emailed to us. He is an FBI agent stationed in Baltimore Maryland. Our friend said stories like this embarrass him.
http://tbo.com/list/columns-tjackson...land-20140112/

I have my own story of how Las Vegas police humiliated me for 30 minutes in rush hour traffic by handcuffing me and making me stand in the hot sun right in front of God and everyone (I nearly passed out). All because they pulled me over for an expired plate that wasn't really expired and I answered truthfully when asked if I had any guns in the car or on my person. I had my concealed carry permit and registration and told them yes I have my carry on me and I have a permit to carry in my wallet. It didn't matter to them and I was treated as a criminal until proven otherwise.
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After you have carried for 15 or twenty years, I have no doubt you will have your own horror stories to tell given the direction our country is heading.
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I'm in a small office and we had a salesman from Ohio visiting and he wants to get his first gun so we start talking. All guns are Glocks and all rifles are assault weapons to this guy, so I can do a little educating. I ask pretty standard questions, what have you shot in the past, what do you want to use it for, where will you store it...

Conversation shifts to concealed carry I explain NH law, and I tell him I can give him no advice on Ohio law. He then flat out asked me "are you carrying right now?"

I hesitate for about 2 seconds and tell him no. He picks up on the hesitation and doesn't believe me. I get him off the topic and we go our separate ways.

It's none of his concern if I'm carrying or not. If I tell him yes, his next likely question will be show me. Not gonna happen.

I will not discuss guns with him in the future.

Anyone ever run into something similar? How did you handle it? Any advice for next time?

Thanks - Matt
I avoid discussing guns with the vast majority of people because I don't want them to even have an inkling that I carry, or even own, guns. The only people with whom I'll discuss guns are a few trusted family members (who have their own CHLs), the UPS guy who delivers my internet ammo purchases(he knows what heavy boxes marked ORM-D are), and a handful of friends who run my favorite range facility. Given that, the guy asked a question of you that he had no right to ask, and I think you handled it wisely. It was none of his business, IMO.

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No one but my wife has ever asked me, but this thread is full of answers. Hoo boy.
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I was shopping for a new truck a while back and ended up talking guns with the salesman. He ended up asking me if I was packing. Normally I'm a big fan of the truth, but that day I lied and told him "no". As others pointed out, his next question would have been "can I see it?".
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I posted this in another thread:

I carry concealed because I feel there are tactical advantages and some people are not comfortable in the presence of firearms.

When I became of age to obtain a permit I learned that part of carrying concealed was also not letting your associates know you were carrying concealed. They would do stupid risky things "Don't worry Theo's gotta gun." I was apparently being cast in the role of security. Literally riding shotgun and not knowing it .......No thanks!
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I don't understand why anybody would tell anyone you carried a gun ever.

Further more, it is in my opinion completely unwise to take a gun out in ANY public place to show someone and handle it.

We just had a local 71 year old man at a restaurant showing a gun to his friend shoot himself through his hand and knee.

A year or so a ago a man shot a teenage girl in Florida showing a friend in a coat room his gun.

Guns should be holstered and carried in a safe and concealed way ALWAYS.

Never handled and never shown to anyone when concealed carry.

Frankly I think it irresponsible and like the 4 rules of gun safety there should be rules of CCW.

1. Keep your gun holstered and concealed.
2. Do not show your gun to ANYONE, do not tell anyone you carry.
3. NEVER handle your gun outside the home or a range. PERIOD.
4. Carry guns in an way to reduce accidental discharge, dropping them or losing them is Extremely unlikely.
5. Never intentionally bring a gun someplace where it is illegal or into someone's home or business where it is not allowed. Respect the rights of others and if you choose disassociate yourself with them if carrying a gun is all so important.
6. Carry a gun that is safe and low risk of accidental or negligent discharge.
7. Get trained in the proficient use and carry of you gun. Such training be self done.

I have seen guys DROP guns concealed on their persons. I have seen people pull guns out and sweep others.

Frankly, these rules are HARD to live by, but I write them to give pause that too many casual and careless gun carriers give CCW a bad name.

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Hmmm....I can't recall anybody ever asking, probably because I don't say or do anything that would give them that idea in the first place.

Oh, come to think of it...my 35-year old son did ask me once. We were walking through a shady part of town one evening and he quietly asked, "Dad, are you carrying?" My response, "Do I have my pants on?" He said, "Good. So am I."
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I just look around and ask "Why...are you expecting trouble?" The subject has changed both times I've been obliged to use that.

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If they reply with the countersign:" If I was expecting trouble, I'd have brought my rifle." Then I know I'm in good company. But I still never fess up.
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Can y'all tell me why y'all are so secretive? I get that it's your business and you're carrying concealed for an advantage. But I don't know why you won't tell friends. There's a group of us at church that love guns, have permits, and will gladly talk to each other about it. Thankfully one of those guys talked with me a bit when I was trying to figure out if I wanted to. I think if everyone would have been super secretive I wouldn't have known enough to know I wanted to get mine.

It just seems my immediate circle of friends has a much different culture than y'all. It's amazing to read almost universally from y'all that you don't tell and that universally at my church that we will tell. Don't get me wrong, we don't advertise to the whole church. There are many that have no clue. And that's great. But if one of them asked me I don't see myself lying to them.

So, why are y'all so adamant about not telling ANYONE?
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i generally don't discuss guns with non-gun people because most of them that would engage you in that type of conversation are looking for an argument.
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Can y'all tell me why y'all are so secretive? I get that it's your business and you're carrying concealed for an advantage. But I don't know why you won't tell friends. There's a group of us at church that love guns, have permits, and will gladly talk to each other about it. Thankfully one of those guys talked with me a bit when I was trying to figure out if I wanted to. I think if everyone would have been super secretive I wouldn't have known enough to know I wanted to get mine.

It just seems my immediate circle of friends has a much different culture than y'all. It's amazing to read almost universally from y'all that you don't tell and that universally at my church that we will tell. Don't get me wrong, we don't advertise to the whole church. There are many that have no clue. And that's great. But if one of them asked me I don't see myself lying to them.

So, why are y'all so adamant about not telling ANYONE?
In the context of this thread we aren’t talking about our friends we’re talking about random strangers. Surely I don’t need to explain why outing yourself to a stranger is unwise.

As for friends I mentioned up thread that I’ve had some really bad experiences that were directly related to telling a “friend” who really wasn’t a gun guy who then proceeded to share my business with a bunch of people I don’t know.

If I can keep that kind of hassle out of my life by simply keeping my mouth shut I’m all for it.

The church I’m in now has something close to 5000 members and I’d bet that 4950 of them don’t even know my name let alone whether or not I carry a gun.

I tell people that have a need to know which right now includes the members of our church security team and the pastoral staff of the church.

People get stupid when they know you’re armed, one of my first threads here was about another member of the church ministry team that kept trying to out me because he didn’t know any better. Anther friend of mine told me he had the same problem with a guy that works with him in the church café.

Again, the easiest way I know of to limit my exposure to Yo Yos like that is to keep my mouth shut.
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It just seems my immediate circle of friends has a much different culture than y'all...So, why are y'all so adamant about not telling ANYONE?
Immediate circle of friends who are gun people and like to compare notes? Trusted friends? Fine, and in any case it's up to you. Handle it your way.

I live in a seniors' apartment complex with a majority of the tenants old women up to age 88. I don't know if they are gun fanciers or not, but I doubt it. I'd rather not upset them if they are skittish about firearms, and they're nosy and gossipy.

Off the grounds it's simply nobody's business that I carry. One or two friends and relatives know, and don't bother asking if I'm packing. They know the answer already. No one I'm not really close to, and certainly no stranger, needs to know. I'll evade the question or lie without compunction.

I'm too old and tired to debate why I go armed, which often seems to be the reason people ask; and I don't need "My God, that old man has a gun!" attention.

My choice. You're welcome to whatever you feel works for you.
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Except for the "hesitation" you responded correctly. Remember, just because you have a permit to CC doesn't mean you've been anointed by King George himself, it means you're most likely operating along the ragged and precarious edge of law, and the interpretation of law by others who may not be so enamored of your views and choices.
Had you admitted to carrying a firearm the dweeb could have let out a girly-shriek and ran away claiming your making him aware of your armed status made him fearful which means shortly thereafter the bulls would have arrived to possibly take you into custody for disturbing the peace, perhaps even an assault charge, confiscate your gun, and initiate steps to have your CC permit rescinded.

I am personally NOT a proponent of CC permits and not because I don't believe in CC, but because the modern "permit" is nothing but another "Mother May I" regulatory tracking and sorting device that CAN and WILL be used against you depending upon local law enforcement, local DA, or even Federal dweebsters attitude of the moment. Anyone remember George Zimmerman? Yeah, he walked, but only after tonnes of cash, years of uncertainty, mountains of political pressure, and they will NEVER stop monitoring him until they finally "get him." The media will see to that you can be sure.

So when the conversation turns to carrying...or who is carrying what, where, plan in advance to LIE with a straight face and a clear conscience because you don't "owe" him or anyone "the truth" just so they can use it against you...it's like handing your enemy a sword then baring your neck...they MIGHT NOT slice your head off, but do you want to take that chance.

Since you choose to carry "under color of law" with a "Mother May I" permit, you are obligate to respond truthfully to an officer of the law when asked, whereas the dude you were talking too could have been standing there carrying ILLEGALLY and could LIE if questioned by LE, and unless they have probable cause...again let us look to George Zimmerman to see a situation where an entire house full of people stated they SAW him with a gun, but since he did not have if openly displayed upon LEO arrival they had no probable cause to search his vehicle. Sure, were he a less-notorious figure the cops MIGHT have conducted an illegal search of the vehicle figuring that like most often happens it wouldn't receive judicial notice, but with old Georgie they KNEW everything they did would be on camera and the LAST thing they wanted was to be caught on cam pulling their zippers back up!
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We don't even have concealed carry yet in Illinois (we sort of do, but no one, to my knowledge, has yet actually received a license to date) and an acquaintance who knows that I shoot asked me if I was carrying. I used the answer suggested earlier in this thread "why would you ask that?" and changed the subject.
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I've said it before, the most polite way of informing someone that they are asking too personal a question is to say:

"I usually am except when I'm not. But I have been known to lie about it."

Nonsensical? Sure. But it gets the point across.
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My answer is always "no," without emphasis nor embellishment. If it an idle question, you will be taken literally. Otherwise it may be heard as "yes, but I'm not talking." If asked for totally nefarious purposes (e.g., a hoodlum looking for weakness) it is heard as a definite "Yes! It's time to move on." Body language and poise speak louder than words to dispel the "prey animal" response.
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I have been asked by friends if I was carrying (while we were discussing gun-related news on TV) and my response was to look at them like they were an idiot, laugh at them and immediately ask, "Do I look like I am carrying a gun?!" while I lift my arms up.

They get all embarrassed and say something like, "Oh, no... I was just curious if you carried it or not."

This all takes place while my 1911SC Rounded-Butt Commander is strapped IWB into a pair of cargo shorts with a Button-down shirt. The Milt Sparks Nexus does one heck of a job of making that thing disappear:

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I think you handled the situation correctly. If it is not LawEnforement asking the answer should be no. I have stopped talking about firearms with people I do not know.
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"Don't ask, don't tell" has worked for me for many years when such conversations arise.

That said, I live in a rural community with only ONE other certified CCW instructor in the county (my name/contact number is legally published on the state's CCW website) so people who "know" me probably "know" the answer without asking...
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I read the whole thing. Thank you for all the other views and opinions besides mine.

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When someone asks if you carry, just say "I'm sorry, but I CAN'T" (Carry Always, Never Tell)
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I have had that happen and when no one is around I absolutely will show them. It's not a big deal. It's not like he killed my wife and raped my prize winning pig! :what:

I take out the ammo and the gun is no different than a stapler or a coffee maker. Often this takes out the awe and demystifies the gun. They see it, hold It and it's just material not a magical child death ray. If they wanna see the ammo also not a problem. I holster the gun and they can check out A BULLET. Basically it's the bullet that was originally chambered.

I treat it like with kids. Demystify it and they react normally. Yes a lot of people who have no idea about guns think they are all Glocks. I don't know much about airplanes and think they are all the same (within their respective class).

Why do people act as if asking to see it is so offensive? The horror. ...wow

Oh and usually this is followed by "can you take us to the range" and "I would like one where can I buy one?"
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I have no problem disclosing that I am armed- to an individual. If some leftist wants to create a CHP database, that's a different story. We are not sex offenders. we have no reason to make our information public.

If I get the question "OMG why do you need that?" I calmly explain if some idiot decides to start shooting up Wal-Mart, I could defend myself and possibly 100s of others. if I feel like being the a-hole, I'll say "because I'm legally allowed to." that shuts them up.

Fortunately, I have not met the person that thinks I'm more likely to go on a shooting spree because I carry. Anyone who believes that we would go through all the red tape to obtain and lawfully carry firearms just to shoot up a movie theater is mentally ill.

If I'm open carrying, well, there's your answer.
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inform them that such a question is a breach of privacy and discourteous
+1 here, I'd say this guy honestly didn't know the etiquette, and it's a good chance to teach him. I've had the question asked by somebody who should have known better and lied. We were in public and she had had more than a couple glasses of wine. I let her know later in the evening that that was not a question to ask in public.
My mother once did something similar, and worse. "Hey show Scott what you've got"... she said this in a church kitchen. Scott is a family friend and a police officer, I had no problem letting see my new 1911, but not in a church kitchen. He handled the situation pretty well, though he was clearly as uncomfortable about it as I was.
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For me it depends on who it is. Most of my friends are pro gun and the ones who are not pro gun usually are not anti gun, they just have no side and are generally good people. I am a vocal person and those who know me know that I go nowhere without a gun or two somewhere on my person so it is not a suprise to them. But, to take gun out of holster is a big deal to me. I find no good reason to take it and show it to someone I do not know very well and that I am sure is very pro gun. I do occaisionally show others that carry also as we compare and voice our opinions on them, but it is always in a private setting. The only people that see my gun outside my home are good good friends or the bad guy...although the bad guy will see it in a VERY different way
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