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Old 09-26-2017, 07:52 PM
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True story:

US Army Basic Training, 1968. Bayonet instruction under the tutelage of a Guamanian Sergeant First Class who, with absolutely no inflection or punctuation in his presentation, instructed us as follows:

Gentlemens with the bayonet you always go for the soft fleshy parts of the body You never want to get your bayonet stuck in the bony parts like the ribs If you ever get your bayonet blade lodged in the bony parts of the body you do not make like John Wayne and put your foot on the man's chest to pull out your bayonet You just fire one round from your rifle and the recoil will free the blade of your bayonet Any questions gentlemens.

I had to be the one to ask: If there is one round left in my rifle what the heck am I doing in a bayonet fight?

That cost me about a hundred push-ups, and I never got an answer to, what remains in my mind, a very valid question.

Judo, jiu-jitsu, karate, aikido, ken-po, boxing, and other sporting exercises are all well and good for younger folks in top physical condition willing to commit themselves to a regimen of training and exercise in order to show the rest of us how it should be done. I am not a young man in prime condition, I am a great-grandfather with two bum knees, a hernia, a problem shoulder, COPD, compression fracture of the lumbar spine, and a few other issues (some related to multiple Purple Heart medals over 40 years ago). I do my absolute best to avoid any type of physical conflict. I may not be able to run away as well as I might have done years ago, so I have to concentrate on what I am capable of, such as gouging out an eye, twisting a gonad sack until the design specifications have been exceeded, kicking a knee in a direction it wasn't designed to go, or such other expedients as the situation may allow (assuming that I am not able to escape any other way). A stout walking stick has come in handy on occasion, with both man and beast.

Fortunately, I have not had to resort to such awful behavior for a long time, and I haven't had to shoot anyone for weeks and weeks. Trying my best to keep things that way.
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Grew up boxing with my Father who boxed in College. Then was exposed to hand to hand and knife fighting. But at my age if I'm not shooting I guess I'm pistol whipping them.
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I will fight to the end, long as i can win in 3 seconds im good, after that im in trouble.
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In my 30 years on the street I was involved in many scrapes making arrests but always managed to come out on top, but that was 20 years ago. I'll be 71 soon and walk w/a cane so I cannot run and getting into a fistfight is unrealistic, I'll lose quickly and probably be badly hurt. My gun is an absolute last resort, as it should be, and I'll rely on my situational awareness to keep me safe.
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at 72 years, i have no intention of going "hand to hand"...however, if i am attacked, i have no hesitation of pulling the trigger and taking you out.....
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at 72 years, i have no intention of going "hand to hand"...however, if i am attacked, i have no hesitation of pulling the trigger and taking you out.....
If you were the target of a sucker punch in someone's "knock out game", would you not try to evade or parry the blow rather than just receive it and immediately go for the gun?


Unarmed transitional skills to access the weapon would still be considered H2H.

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If you were the target of a sucker punch, you wouldn't see it coming. Otherwise it wouldn't be a sucker punch.
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Hopefully we're not going to get caught up debating the precise definition of a sucker punch.

A sudden unexpected strike with the intent being to catch you off guard is simply what I'm referencing. Obviously if you never see it, you can't defend against it.
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Hopefully we're not going to get caught up debating the precise definition of a sucker punch.

A sudden unexpected strike with the intent being to catch you off guard is simply what I'm referencing. Obviously if you never see it, you can't defend against it.
Correct! I wrote earlier but being aware of where you are, who is around will go a long way to keep you out of trouble. Talking your way out might be a option depending on circumstances.

Staying out of bad areas also goes a long way, but sometimes you just have to be where you are. Heck even good areas if you watch the news after something nasty happens they always interview some neighbor that says, things like that never happen in this neighborhood.
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Correct! I wrote earlier but being aware of where you are, who is around will go a long way to keep you out of trouble. Talking your way out might be a option depending on circumstances.

Staying out of bad areas also goes a long way, but sometimes you just have to be where you are. Heck even good areas if you watch the news after something nasty happens they always interview some neighbor that says, things like that never happen in this neighborhood.
I agree. The problem is so many people are speaking in absolutes and the reality is no one can be aware and alert to every potential threat every waking moment of their life. Nobody. No one is perfect in this regard. Look at how famed Chris Kyle lost his life.

Situational awareness, understanding pre-attack indicators and avoiding high risk areas and situations do go a long way in avoidance and preparation... Do you carry religiously? You may not be as safe as you believe. - www.GrantCunningham.com www.GrantCunningham.com

However, it's not always enough... The Myth of Situational Awareness

People often speak of being alert of ones environment, but how many actually know what to look for? nosofttargets.com

Unless you never go out in public, you will be in very close proximity to multiple people on a regular basis and someone intending to do you harm will try to give as little indication as they can of their intent and they are often very good and experienced at doing so. Irregardless of how soon you may pick up on it, an unarmed defensive response will very often be necessary to avoid or at least mitigate the damage done by the initial strikes to even get to the gun. You simply may not see the assault coming from a distance or have adequate time to access your weapon before the attack comes.

Effective(unarmed)counter-ambush methods is the key to many of these defense scenarios, but they are completely overlooked by many gun centric individuals who think they are safe just because they carry a gun.
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I no longer wrestle, box or bar brawl..............

But, I can still defend myself, if need be.
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When I had to start taking cumadin many years ago, the doctor told
me I couldn't get into any more knife fights. So, just to be on the
safe side, I try to not get into any kind of fights anymore. At 82 I've
been there & done that.
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Yes, I'm over 55.
Yes, I've trained in "hand-2-hand", which was used to some extent daily until I completely retired from cop-work 2 months ago.
Now, training mainly consists of staying in shape (weight control; regular cardio exercise program).
Luckily, my experience goes back ~40 years, however, in karate and kung-fu. I don't have advice for someone just starting out other than to just get what training you can or desire. Otherwise, consider some other non-lethal weapons too, such as, pepper-spray or some form of impact weapons (which can still benefit from actual training, however).

I still shoot regularly, often several times per week. All this makes for a busy-enough retired life.
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This thread is over three years old. When it was still pretty new I posted that my age and physical limitations made running or fighting impossible (running) or impractical (fighting).

Now in a few weeks I'll be eighty. In addition to stage 3 COPD (no, I stopped smoking twenty-five years ago) I've developed three kinds of heart trouble. I have to use a four-wheel walker; my cane is no longer sufficient.

I'm pretty sure my situation is not unique on this forum.

I get out far less these days. I never go to bars, or knowingly visit high crime areas. But wherever I go, I am easy pickings for the kind of lowlife piece of excrement who likes to rob and/or beat the goo out of frail geezers.

Even more than when I posted here three and a half years ago, if I'm attacked my priority will be positioning myself so that my gun can be deployed. I pray it won't be necessary, but if it is that will be Job One.

I'm not ready to check out or be turned into a turnip. Not just yet. I'm afraid I would miss something interesting.
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No, not debating the definition. The point is, if it's a sucker punch, you won't see it coming. Therefore, you won't be able to evade or parry.
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...if I'm attacked my priority will be positioning myself so that my gun can be deployed. I pray it won't be necessary, but if it is that will be Job One.
I think this is key.

You are not alone, but neither are you defenseless. I don't think anyone on this thread expects anyone to be Jackie Chan. At least I don't. My philosophy is that you need to put some thought into empty hand defense even if it's only to position yourself to get your gun out.

It's really about awareness and proximity. If I can keep the bad guy at a decent distance, I greatly increase my chances of winning the altercation. If I can't keep that distance, how can I make some distance?

The point here is, just having the gun isn't enough. You have to be able to deploy it when it's needed. The fact that a person can stand and move around tells me that they can do something. It might not be pretty, but there is always something.
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No, not debating the definition. The point is, if it's a sucker punch, you won't see it coming. Therefore, you won't be able to evade or parry.
Actually you are. Textbook definition of a sucker punch is an unexpected punch or strike. That in no way indicates to me that it cannot be defended. Irregardless of what it means to you, most schools do teach sucker punch defense and usually differentiate between it coming from the front, side or from the rear. Debating semantics doesn't have any value.
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I guess that I would like to direct this question primarily to the older guys like me that routinely carry. I'll define "older" as over 55. Younger guys can feel free to chime in too especially if you have specific knowledge or experience in self defense training (you there Rastoff?)

Everything I've ever read says that you are much more likely to be involved in a close quarters physical altercation than a gun fight, which makes sense. It also makes sense that you can't just shoot unarmed assailants and not expect serious consequences. We are generally urged to train for this sort of combat if we undertake the responsibility of carrying a firearm. As I've aged a bit and developed typical aging changes (mild back issues, some shoulder issues, maybe heart, etc) I simply am unable to realistically train in Ju Jitsu, Krav Maga, or similar disciplines the way I maybe could have in the past. And I realize it will only get worse in the coming years. I can still effectively train with a firearm however. We all carry to defend ourselves and to be prepared, but my concern is I feel a nagging sense of being ill-prepared in this area. I stay in reasonably good shape and intend to continue to; maybe I could hold my own against some younger guys, but the effects of aging can't be stopped, and my fist-fighting days are dwindling fast! Obviously the biggest advantage of aging is wisdom and patience...ie being smart enough to avoid fist fights, but some unarmed attacks may not be avoidable.

So the question for some of you fellow mature guys is do you train for physical altercations,
if so how? Any recommendations? General thoughts on the subject?
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I am a 61-year-old handicapped USN Vietnam veteran. My Glock 17 is loaded and ready for all altercations range 0-100 yards. My numb right leg makes me vulnerable to hand-to-hand stuff, so I'll just shoot him/her.
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many of us that have been hurt in a work place accident caused in my case by a negligent employee's unsafe act don't have a choice ..

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to answer the question .. many of us older people ( I'm 67) have more ailments that limit mobility and ability to fight off an aggressor in a hand to hand combat situation ..

COPD a lump together of all breathing ailments with no cure affects 10 million of us with 70% over the age of 45 .. many don't realize how bad it is effecting them till it reaches stage II of III stages and they are in their late 50's and older .. would limit any one with it from running away .. many with COPD are on O2 and lug around a tank or O2 concentrator ..

many of us have ailments that they are unaware of .. such as 4-6% of the male population that has smoked have abdominal aorta aneurysms of various size that if they were hit in the abdomen could rupture .. many families don't find out their loved one has one till it is the cause of death !! I've lost 2 friends with one in the past 10 years .. one while surgeon's were trying to repair it .. Rupture of the AAA occurs in 1–3% of men aged 65 or more, the mortality is 70–95%

High blood pressure and other heart ailments can make it harder for the older population to do any kind of exertion that would raise their heart rate .. pace makers, stints and other electronic devices are implanted for heart conditions that would have killed you just 15 to 20 years ago !!

The list of ailments the elderly have is quite long .. I could go on but won't .

An instructor I took a class from told an elderly man that in some cases it might be best to fight from your back lying on the ground fending off an attack with your feet till you could draw your weapon .. instead of trying to run and being attacked from behind or standing taking punches to the head or body !!
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An instructor I took a class from told an elderly man that in some cases it might be best to fight from your back lying on the ground fending off an attack with your feet till you could draw your weapon .. instead of trying to run and being attacked from behind or standing taking punches to the head or body !!
This is, and always has been, my point. There is always something you can do.

People make claims that they cannot fight. That simply isn't true. What Whitwabit said is true, there are plenty of people who can't afford to raise their heart beat or stress level on a regular basis. Even so, that doesn't mean they are completely helpless.

What it does mean, is that they need to learn alternate means of defense. Laying on your back and kicking could be one such method. Since I don't know what ailments everyone reading this has, I can't suggest methodologies. It would take too long. But, you can find a self-defense instructor in your area and work with them. Any self-defense instructor worth their salt should be able to guide you in alternate methods.
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I'm too old to run (not that I would), lost some speed due to bad knees and back to mess with hand to hand. Plus I don't want to get all sweaty. That's why I bought a hand gun.
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When I was a military cop I only had two moves when my charm failed. Move One was to hit the offending party in the face or forehead with my radio. Those of you who remember the old Motorola brick can imagine the effect when it was swung lustily enough. I would then gracefully transition to Move Two, which was a rear chokehold, also applied with vigor. If I could maneuver myself behind him first, I would just go directly to Move Two.

These two moves were viewed with favor at the time. I once was enthusiastically choking out a hardheaded young brawler at the entrance to the NCO Club when my soon-to-be bride walked out with some friends from her office. Hi, honey, said she. Hi, dear, said I. Grrrrrkkkkkllllllkkaakkk, said my new friend. She stills laughs about it.

Sadly, such antics are frowned upon today. Radios are tiny things, and necks have grown weak and collapsible. In later years we just resorted to the law enforcement dog pile, which is quite the bonding experience but led to me getting hurt more often by flailing arms, legs, and handcuffs.

Then tasers brought the fun back, but I was never issued one.

Now as a semi-retired gentleman of leisure I use common sense, my considerable charm, foul language, and a gun, in that order. (Though I am thinking about carrying around an old Motorola, just for old time’s sake.)
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I am going out to the range now to practice with my S&W 629 with my WC bowling-pin loads. The next match is on Sat 28Oct2017.
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...of my crime fighting career. 😳 One 'dogpile' stands out, for certain. We were fighting a BIG guy on PCP or some other drug that made him immune to pain (at the moment) and quite impossible to control. Eventually there was a moment when it was likely we could get the cuffs on him and someone said: 'Cuff him' as all of us reached for ours. 'Course he was thereupon loose...and the battle started anew.

It ended relatively well for all involved...including the BIG dude. Lotsa uniform items needed replacement, though.

For those not in LE or fighters, you cannot 'win' if you can't hurt your adversary. And LE is a contact sport, absolutely.

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When I was a military cop I only had two moves when my charm failed. Move One was to hit the offending party in the face or forehead with my radio. Those of you who remember the old Motorola brick can imagine the effect when it was swung lustily enough. I would then gracefully transition to Move Two, which was a rear chokehold, also applied with vigor. If I could maneuver myself behind him first, I would just go directly to Move Two.

These two moves were viewed with favor at the time. I once was enthusiastically choking out a hardheaded young brawler at the entrance to the NCO Club when my soon-to-be bride walked out with some friends from her office. Hi, honey, said she. Hi, dear, said I. Grrrrrkkkkkllllllkkaakkk, said my new friend. She stills laughs about it.

Sadly, such antics are frowned upon today. Radios are tiny things, and necks have grown weak and collapsible. In later years we just resorted to the law enforcement dog pile, which is quite the bonding experience but led to me getting hurt more often by flailing arms, legs, and handcuffs.

Then tasers brought the fun back, but I was never issued one.

Now as a semi-retired gentleman of leisure I use common sense, my considerable charm, foul language, and a gun, in that order. (Though I am thinking about carrying around an old Motorola, just for old time’s sake.)
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I guess that I would like to direct this question primarily to the older guys like me that routinely carry. I'll define "older" as over 55. Younger guys can feel free to chime in too especially if you have specific knowledge or experience in self defense training (you there Rastoff?)

Everything I've ever read says that you are much more likely to be involved in a close quarters physical altercation than a gun fight, which makes sense. It also makes sense that you can't just shoot unarmed assailants and not expect serious consequences. We are generally urged to train for this sort of combat if we undertake the responsibility of carrying a firearm. As I've aged a bit and developed typical aging changes (mild back issues, some shoulder issues, maybe heart, etc) I simply am unable to realistically train in Ju Jitsu, Krav Maga, or similar disciplines the way I maybe could have in the past. And I realize it will only get worse in the coming years. I can still effectively train with a firearm however. We all carry to defend ourselves and to be prepared, but my concern is I feel a nagging sense of being ill-prepared in this area. I stay in reasonably good shape and intend to continue to; maybe I could hold my own against some younger guys, but the effects of aging can't be stopped, and my fist-fighting days are dwindling fast! Obviously the biggest advantage of aging is wisdom and patience...ie being smart enough to avoid fist fights, but some unarmed attacks may not be avoidable.

So the question for some of you fellow mature guys is do you train for physical altercations, and if so how? Any recommendations? General thoughts on the subject?
Thanks in advance!

I know what to do. I taught it at one time. Heck even put it to practice a time or two........However, those days were 35 - 40 years ago. Nowadays I steer clear of those areas. If I have to use it, I guess I will rely on "muscle memory" and pray for the best.
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This is a 6 yr old thread. But entertaining and relevant.
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Pushing ten years, actually. Stay safe out there.
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Before I respond (Again) to this discussion. I would like to say that I miss Shoulda Zagged. He was truly a gentleman.

I also miss Sergeant Lumpy and I suspect that he is no longer among the quick.

This discussion is 10 years old. When it started I was 48. I'm going to be 58 by the end of the month.

Things have changed. I'm not going to go over my list of ailments, suffice it say I wouldn't last 30 seconds in a real fight and that I have a hard enough time getting up off the floor in yoga class let alone in a fight. Running anywhere is also out of the question.

I want to say this the right way but I don't know if I'm going to.

Avoidance and abiding by the rule of stupids is now my primary strategy.

I also never go anywhere without OC spray. I'm sitting on my couch with a little bottle of UDAP in my pocket.

This is the part that I'm going to get wrong or at least not as clear as I want.

It doesn't matter why you hit me, it's not unreasonable to assume that if you knock me on my butt you're going to check my pockets. Even if you didn't intend to mug me if you knock me down you might as well take my money. And while you're doing that the odds of you finding my gun are better than excellent. That's also the reason that I'm not prepared to Grapple with anybody. If you knock me down or you start wrestling with me I have to assume that my life is in immediate and imminent danger

I don't know how else to say it but I have to assume that if you get your hands on my gun you're going to use it on me.

And that's the mentality that's going to govern my reaction to your assault.
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At 77 I'm too old to fight, too slow to run but, I can still shoot straight.
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With respect to the bold text, that's only half true and the older you get the less true it becomes. If you are on the wrong side of 55, with physical challenges, your justification for using deadly force increases in direct proportion to your decreased ability to use just your body to fend off an attacker. All you ever need in a gun tolerant jurisdiction is fear of bodily harm or death. The goblin attacking you need not be armed, just physically able to cause serious injury/death.

I took martial arts for 20 years. Can I do that stuff today? Unlikely, but maybe some of it. It's much easier to pay attention to my surroundings and if I perceive danger be prepared to use a weapon.
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I’ve found at 55 years old that I can still train fairly intensely. What I can’t do is train that way as frequently.

I regularly train Brazilian Jiu Jitsu and Mixed Martial Arts with professional fighters in their 20s. I currently hold a black belt in BJJ.

I have a number of injuries including no disc at C4-C5, both shoulders surgically repaired, three tendons torn off my groin, a shattered ankle, and a skull fracture from a socket wrench.

I’ve managed to train around these injuries because I’ve always kept myself fit and strong. I can still deadlift 450 for reps.

I think the key to being able to train in empty hand stuff well into advanced age is staying on top of your personal resiliency and managing injuries as best as you can.

I teach close quarter shooting skills that involve grappling for a living and have a ton of injured, diminished, older clients (well in their 70s) that are able to participate in training that is properly scaled for them. Certainly there are those that absolutely can’t but I think many would be surprised at what they CAN do.
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No, not at 72. That’s why I cc every day and shoot often.
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When an undergrad I was too near a sudden bar fight and got swept into it quite by bad fortune and my geographic location - no clue what it was about. I was 6 foot 1 inch and a sinewy 180 pounds and a guy held me by the ankles at arm's length and used me to pile drive objects that were, apparently, already on the floor with the top of my head. I rather lost all interest in fisticuffs after that. I'd do whatever was required, if necessary, and if it ever happened again I'd fight filthy. My son and I do work the heavy bag fairly often but that amounts to a cardio workout for me.

Had a bud that was one tough hombre, large, temperamental, fast and actually liked to fight. We're no longer acquainted - I knew that hanging out in his vicinity could result in serving as a pile driver again someday. He said he phased out of it in his mid 30s because as good at fist fighting as he was, he occasionally met guys that were measurably better at it.

Luckily, since college, my situational awareness has kept me out of frays.
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Hand to hand?

I will dazzle my opponent with my glacier like reflexes.
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Not anymore. At my age things start snapping off pretty easy.
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at 85 I have an aluminum cane designed for self defense.
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I'm 70. By myself I'll give the best I got. In a crowd I'm surrounded by much easier targets. Too bad we can't fight our way into a better world. Joe
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Will be 73 in a few weeks. Have hip replacement, 2 C- spine fusions and about to get 2nd one redone, pin in thumb of left hand, 4 carpitunnel releases ( 2 in each wrist) arthritis from head to toes, shoulders to fingers. I do not go into questionable areas during the day and dang sure not at night. Been CCW one of my LW Commanders and will continue to until.One may guess what might happen if some thug starts to get close to me, remember the 21’ rule.
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I'm 57 and basically do this workout twice a week, if possible. I wrestled in high-school and trained in American Kickboxing, bjj and mma into my 40's. It's a good idea for everyone to at least use the machines at the gym. Many have discounts for seniors. The video was taken last year, btw.

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I'm 74 now. When I was much younger and a FTO, I would tell the new guy, "the headbone is harder than the handbone" if you got to hit someone use a flashlight, nightstick, jack or sap.

I haven't been in that situation in more than 30 years. Pistol whipping a thug with a Airweight J frame doesn't seem to be an option. I'd likely choose door number two.

I shoot once a month with group of other geezer LEO's, none of them notice printing on me. Nor do I spot it on them. We all believe at our advanced age surprise is our best advantage.
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I turned fifty this year. I work in Corrections where I still occasionally get to "sprint and rassle", often with a nice thick and lingering cloud of pepper spray hanging in the air. I can still do it, but Lawdy! I sure do feel it for a couple of days afterwards!

Outside of my department required training (Which I consider to be generally next to worthless) I just do the same grappling I've done since I was younger. I just quit much sooner, and I'm sure to roll with partners who really mean it when they say "let's roll at fifty percent" That being said, it is darn hard to bite back the ego and not try to hang with the younger guys. But...I was gifted a badly torn up shoulder from training that serves as a reminder of what happens when I let my ego get out of hand. That shoulder helps me make future smarter decisions in that regard...
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