When I was a guard checking in contractors to badge them to enter our factory I was amazed what percentage of people "claimed" they left their wallets and driver licenses at home!

If you really want to know, call the state police (or your states equivalent) and ask for the person most knowledgable on firearm laws. Done.

Given the attitude about LTCs and firearms in general there, the penalty is likely only part of the problem. I could see administrative action that really sucks. If you use appropriate care, it will never be an issue.

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I just counted. I have 15 plastic items in my wallet (credit cards, DL, CHL, insurance and various other ID cards.) My wallet opens up to four pockets, each pocket can hold up to six cards. When closed, my wallet currently measures just slightly less than 1/2 inch and that includes, at the moment, 14 bills of various denominations. Closed, in pocket formation, it measures 3.5 inches x 4.5 inches.

You cannot tell that it is in your hip pocket.

I can't answer the question but this begs clarification.

This information is in direct opposition to the guy in Maryland traveling with his family to Florida and was pulled over. If I recall correctly the indicated they ran his plates and knew he could carry a gun - had a CWP. They make the family get out of the car, searched his vehicle, luggage and detained for about 2 1/2 hours.

He did not have his gun with him...but they knew.

So one LEO says they have no way to tell (the OP's case) and another pulls a guy over because he knows he has a CWP.

Something doesn't sound right here.

One of my brothers in Texas law enforcement told me several years ago, that they do not know you have a CHL till they run the DL#, not when they run the tags, but I listen to a scanner
and it sounds to me like they know a lot from just the plates.
I wonder if that has changed.

Then my question becomes can LE get a name for a licensed driver to run from a license plate? How else would the Maryland LE know about the driver? This case made TV NEWS here in Roanoke/New Castle Va area.

It depends on the way the state of registration enters the license plate info into their system. Some require that the registered owner(s) provide DL #s on the registration forms/renewals, and then that is associated with the plate.

The next variable is the software. In some states, the software automatically provides the DL info back when the plate is run. Illinois did this even in the mid80s. I watched mine run by a dispatcher as an experiment, and it took less than 10 seconds from entry to return. The return showed the car and its data (make, model, color, etc); the address to which it was a registered (A PO Box, of course, for safety reasons), and the registered owners (my wife and I). The software having picked up the DL#s, ran both, and showed any moving violations in the last year (none), wants, and DL stops (suspended or revoked, of course also none), along with all my endorsements (A, T, X, M, glasses restriction, etc).

When I got to Washington, the software here (ironically called "ACCESS") was flat out primitive/not set up that well, a real safety hazard for officers. The next interface issue is that when running a plate from State A in State B, the software involved (both state and NCIC) may not pick up the data from state A in a useful manner, and of course dispatchers and officers have a hard time knowing the nature of the responses from 49 other states, plus Canadian provinces and sometimes Mexico.

The entry of other stuff, such as a carry license, is a matter of state process and software design. Again, of course, how State B accesses the stuff from State A will vary and may not be familiar to officers and dispatchers. My recollection is that here, for example, the CPL data is not associated with the registration, but when our new software was put on the car computers, we could press another button for various other searches, and the data would populate the right fields for the search associated with that particular button. Some would not auto-populate, and we had to cut and paste just like on your home computer.

Hope that helps.

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Minnesota, known for Minnesota nice, allows carry without a permit-concealed or open-in certain instances. Be aware that the Minneapolis PD operate under their own rules. Carrying with a permit may get you hit with sticks and spread and cuffed.

This has nothing to do with the original post which regarded carrying concealed in a vehicle without your permit.

In Michigan they take your wepon may or may not give you a ticket ! You then go get your permit were you left it or here in Wayne county if you lost it go to the main clerks office downtown pay $25.00 and they issue you a replacement on the spot !
THEN



Take your permit to the PD that took your wepon and they will by law give it back to you !

I NEVER get in my vehicle and drive away from my house, WITHOUT the following:

My wallet, with all of my ID "stuff", DL, CHL, and at least a few dollars...

My Gun, and extra ammo...

My Cell Phone, with charger...

My Garmin vehicle GPS...

Extra reading glasses...

Clothing proper for the weather conditions, just in case I have car trouble, I am prepared for the elements.

Enough Water for at least several hours in the heat, again in case of car trouble.

WHENEVER I get in a vehicle, I ALWAYS have the above with me...

If you get pulled over in NY with a gun and no ID.... Good Luck.

They will take your gun. YOU have to get it back. They can detain or arrest you which will get your car towed. Un screw your self is a good way to put it.

I got in a motorcycle accident. I asked the officer present to take my handgun before they loaded me in the ambulance. He did. After I got out of the hospital, I went to the police station, showed them my permit and got my gun back with a "Good Luck".