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Old 04-08-2014, 10:12 PM
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Wisconsin’s Attorney General is stating they will honor the Illinois License to Carry.
Reciprocity | Wisconsin Department of Justice :: Attorney General J. B. Van Hollen I look for Montana and Nevada to add Illinois in the future. They just look at the states laws and if they meet their criteria they will honor them. I believe Illinois law meets their criteria. Texas could add Illinois in the future as they have granted Unilateral Recognition to other states that don’t have reciprocity in their laws. They honor NY, CA, CT, HI, NJ, MA, MD and other states that don’t have reciprocity in their laws. There is an outside chance for Virginia to honor Illinois. They do honor some states who don't honor them. Time will tell if VA honors IL. Most of the other states that don’t already honor IL need to have signed agreements or Illinois must honor them before they will honor Illinois.

At Handgunlaw.us, we get a lot of questions asking when we are going to make a Mobile App. Handgunlaw.us provides access and information free of charge. We don't have sponsors and accept no ads. We do this because we recognize the information is needed and most average computer users don't understand how to find the information they need. Handgunlaw.us will never have a mobile app for the site because there is no real need for one. Simply put, if you have a device that can use a mobile app, you already have the capability of browsing the site using your browser. I do use an App - “Gun Safe” - which links to the pages on Handgunlaw.us. They link to us with our permission. Handgunlaw.us and Gun Safe are not affiliated in any way. Others have violated our DMCA protections, copied our info, put it on their Site or in their App, and called it their own compiled information. Once we contact them they generally remove it without further action. I have all the CCW Apps I can find on my NEXUS 7 and use them for research.

I also have been ask many times what states has the best laws. Look no further than Kansas! They can only post buildings. By 1/1/18 if any city, county or State building does not have armed guards and metal detectors they can’t keep CCW holder out. They also have a law that states if a CCW holder walks past a no gun sign they have to ask him to leave first. There is also a bill on the Governor’s desk right now that will preempt all local Open Carry and Knife Laws in Kansas and most believe he will sign that bill. Yes you have to have a permit/license to carry but Kansas also honors all other states permit/licenses. Check out Kansas Carry Law.
http://www.handgunlaw.us/states/kansas.pdf
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Thanks for the update Gary. The CCW world owes you a huge debt of gratitude.
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You are the go-to guy before any interstate trips.
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Gary, I used your website every time I travel. Thank you for this great resource.

I'll be heading to Wisconsin for vacation and see this in the reciprocity section: "Missouri, Only licenses issued/renewed on or after 8/28/13 are honored in Wisconsin." My permit was issued in 2012 so of course I am disappointed with the cutoff date. I think that coincides with the change in MO law to have the sheriff issue the permit instead of the DMV, but there was no change in training requirements. Do you know anything more about why Wisconsin recognizes only the newer permits?
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From all I understand it has to do with background checks. Something in MO changed on how or who they do their background checks through. NICS etc.
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Thank you for the update Sir.

Now if only Illinois would begin to recognize Wisconsin CCW holders....
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Reading between the lines in Illinois news, it appears they are having
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In Illinois the list of prohibited places is EXTENSIVE. It includes,

Parks, Libraries, playgrounds, rest stops
Bike paths, walking trails (unless owned by the IL DNR)
Airports
Zoos, Amusement parks
Any permit based public events
Public transportation
Government buildings (all local, state, courts, etc)
Schools, Universities, child care facilities
Hospitals
Bars, some restaurants, temporary liquor stores, casinos
Stadiums
Any private property with a 4x6" guns prohibited sign

So whats left, where can you legally carry?

Your own home (was legal before, without a permit)
Your car (glove box and latched center consoles were legal before, without a permit)
Some businesses / private property

That's it. No public property, no rest stops, few gas stations, no parks, practically nowhere is legal. Ultimately, carrying concealed in Illinois and going about normal daily business is still illegal. May as well skip the permit?
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Pretty much. Illinois carry is a joke and Illinois residents have a long, hard row to hoe.

Do not dismay. Ohio used to be nearly as bad in 2004, but Ohioans have steadily chipped away at the stupid restrictions and we are now to the point where concealed carry here is almost on par with yardstick states like Florida.

In some ways we are ahead, as you cannot legally go armed into a bar/tavern in Florida, but you can do so here if you have an Ohio CHL or one from a state we share reciprocity with.
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I wanted to say thanks, and I love your site! I'd like to mention though that I have to disagree with the second part of this:
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Handgunlaw.us will never have a mobile app for the site because there is no real need for one.
There are a lot of people with limited connection to the internet who live in either mountainous or more rural areas, who do not always have internet availability, even if their devices are capable. I think an app would be a fantastic idea, although I see the problem given that you don't have adds or sponsors, and creating such an app and keeping it updated could be costly unless someone was volunteering their services.

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You can view Handgunlaw.us on any smartphone and don't need internet as long as you have phone service. I do it everyday. I have to go outside my house to get two bars on my phone. I live in a very rural area. So Rural that I was born and raised in a county that has one stop light and it is not in the county seat. Moved to the county next door and it has 45 people a square mile.

An app is not needed. It is a convenience more than a need. At least that is the way I see it. Handgunlaw.us is free and Apps cost money to download. An App would not have the info Handgunlaw.us supplies and would be limited. I have every CCW app available and non of them come close to Handgunlaw.us except for the "One" that just links to our state pages. We are not partners they just link to us.

Also money is a big issue. It cost a lot of money to build an app. I can't do it. Then someone to keep it updated. I put in a min of 2 to 3 hours a day just researching and updating to keep Handgunlaw.us up to date. Many days are longer but few are shorter than 2 hours.
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In Illinois the list of prohibited places is EXTENSIVE. It includes,

Parks, Libraries, playgrounds, rest stops
Bike paths, walking trails (unless owned by the IL DNR)
Airports
Zoos, Amusement parks
Any permit based public events
Public transportation
Government buildings (all local, state, courts, etc)
Schools, Universities, child care facilities
Hospitals
Bars, some restaurants, temporary liquor stores, casinos
Stadiums
Any private property with a 4x6" guns prohibited sign

So whats left, where can you legally carry?

Your own home (was legal before, without a permit)
Your car (glove box and latched center consoles were legal before, without a permit)
Some businesses / private property

That's it. No public property, no rest stops, few gas stations, no parks, practically nowhere is legal. Ultimately, carrying concealed in Illinois and going about normal daily business is still illegal. May as well skip the permit?
Often, the places where folks are prohibited from carrying are the places you need it most. For example, most big cities are against it, yet these crime-ridden places are more likely to be the place you need a CCW to defend yourself. Oh well, the gun owners will have to work at amending it and put the anti-gun people on the defensive for years to come fighting gun-friendly amendments.
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