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Speedloader/Moon Clip carry question.
I am taking the steps to obtain my CCW and was looking for advice on how people carry their Speedloaders or Moon Clips. Do you use pouches? Some kind of container? Carry them loose in your pocket? Or do you prefer speed strips for easier carry? Maybe even loose rounds? Would just like to see what everyone finds comfortable and practical.
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Moon clip loose in the pocket; never an issue.
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I have speed strips, a dump pouch and speed loaders. I always carry a dump pouch. I like the Galco brand. If I have a loose pocket handy, I'll toss in a speed loader as well. Some like HKS. I have both, I perfer Safariland. Can't speak to the moon clips. I've never used them.
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I always carry a speedstrip in my watch pocket. Its always there, regardless of the gun that I carry that day. If I'm carrying my M19, I carry a double pouch that is nylon (HKS brand?) that I carry on my left side, pushed through the belt loop at the 9:00 position. That places a pocket of the pouch on either side of the loop and stabilizes the pouch on my belt for quick acquisition.
These pouches are about the lowest profile set up that I've found and I've tried numerous brands and styles. It puts the most rounds on my person with the least amount of bulk.
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I always carry a speedstrip in my watch pocket. Its always there, regardless of the gun that I carry that day.
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North Mountain IDPA Moonclip Holder Usually, most things involved with Idpa are silly and backassward, but this works. The shroud on the front is very helpful in keeping the clips from hanging up on zippers and seams of anything you might wear to conceal your gun. I think it just plain works. Bob Perdue is a great guy and stands behind his products 100%.
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I have a couple of these. Not too bulky. Its called Split Six . 3 rounds sit on the inside, side of your belt and six on the outside.
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FWIW, I had a Taurus 905 revolver. It used those flimsy metal clips. I couldn't carry them without them bending and getting distorted in my pocket. Sold the 905 since that flimsy moon clip just didn't work for me. I didn't want to carry a speedloader pouch on my belt (although a speedloader pouch is way less obvious than a magazine pouch to the uninitiated "masses" out in public).
One of the guns I carry all the time is my 642. I use Bianchi speed strips for reload. You may consider the speed strips. Also, on the very rare occasion I carry one of my 2.5" K frames, I carry speed strips with it, too. I have been using speed strips for so long that carrying speedloaders doesn't even occur to me anymore.
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This is how I carry my S&W and Ruger Speed Loaders.
In the Big Creek Kydex Carrier is an F Model Jet Loader for my SP101.
Shown is a J Frame Shoot A Moon Carrier for 5 Shot 38 Special, 357 Magnum, or 9mm.
Moon Clipped ammunition is for my 442 Pro Moon Clip.
California Competition Works makes this style moon clip carrier for all moon clip guns that I know about.
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Over the years, I've tried just about all of them and settled on speedloaders carried in Desantis Second Six pouches for concealed carry use.
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I carry strips in my pocket. I also carry a lit of other stuff too, making speed loaders a little haphazard and bulky. For me, revolvers are BUGs.
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I carry six in a belt slide and a speedloader in a leather vest pocket. I use the leather vest as a cover garment because I don't like untucked shirts.
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I just carry a couple of speedstrips in my left front pocket.
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I saw this last week offered by Mike Barranti, one of the neater ideas I've seen.
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I really like the look of that design! I've been using Split-Sixes, as another poster linked. I really don't think I will get away from them, as they are easy-on, and easy OFF the belt. Such as, LOL, when you have to drop-trow in a public facility.
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My primary reload is a "New York" reload - a second handgun ready for use. For me, I have the second piece accessible to my other hand, and since I pocket carry most of the time, that means the back-up gun to the primary is either in my left front, or left rear pants pockets. My secondary reload is a speed strip on my belt in either a woven nylon or flat leather pouch.
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Okay, I've been accused of trying to "out ammo" the Glocksters in my agency, but on duty I carry two twin speedloader carriers for my S&W 686-6 duty revolver with HKS speedloaders, one S&W Model 37 in my pocket with a Bianchi speedstrip holding .38 Specials for whatever I need to reload. (At that point I would have already gone through 30 rounds of .357 Magnum and 5 rounds of .38 Special.)
Off duty I carry two speedstrips of .38 Special in a double dump pouch. If the weather is cool, I'll drop a Safariland speedloader in each jacket/vest pocket loaded with either .38 Special or .357 Magnum (depending on which K frame I'm carrying). I also usually carry my Model 37, too.
Might have to try those Split 6 carriers for off duty.
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This is how I carry my S&W and Ruger Speed Loaders.
In the Big Creek Kydex Carrier is an F Model Jet Loader for my SP101.
Shown is a J Frame Shoot A Moon Carrier for 5 Shot 38 Special, 357 Magnum, or 9mm.
Moon Clipped ammunition is for my 442 Pro Moon Clip.
California Competition Works makes this style moon clip carrier for all moon clip guns that I know about.
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I'll bet those give a big signature with summer(light clothing). I'm well over 200 lbs but, don't think I could get away with your suggestion.
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I use a generic cell phone clip on cordura pouch to carry two Hks speedloaders. One sits on top of the other. No one notices them sitting on my hip 9 o'clock.
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moon clip carry
When I carry my S&W 329PD 45acp, I carry the extra moon clip in my left chest pocket, with my cell phone. It is very easy to get to & reload. I also carry my spare magazine for my 45auto in the same place. For other revolvers I carry speed strips also in the left pocket.
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FWIW, I had a Taurus 905 revolver. It used those flimsy metal clips. I couldn't carry them without them bending and getting distorted in my pocket. Sold the 905 since that flimsy moon clip just didn't work for me. I didn't want to carry a speedloader pouch on my belt (although a speedloader pouch is way less obvious than a magazine pouch to the uninitiated "masses" out in public).
One of the guns I carry all the time is my 642. I use Bianchi speed strips for reload. You may consider the speed strips. Also, on the very rare occasion I carry one of my 2.5" K frames, I carry speed strips with it, too. I have been using speed strips for so long that carrying speedloaders doesn't even occur to me anymore.
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FWIW I carry 2 speed strips & 3 HKS speedloaders in my pocket 2 weak hand side 1 strong side just in case. If you look @ some of the old leather patterns a 2x2x2 belt pouch was available had a local guy make a leather 1 & I sewed a nylon web version. Carried it for years. Now wear suspenders making a version for them.
Easy to pluck 2@ a time to reload my model 19. Plus I have an 8 shot taurus for ccw if in Summer no 8 shot .357 speedloaders.
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Short answer: try them all and use the method that best suits you, your gun, your clothing, and your situation.
I know you wanted specifics, and I gave you principles, but I see others already responded with good choices. I use a pouch for two speedloaders, but...
Lets examine this analytically.
1. Most incidents are stopped by merely displaying a gun
2. Most gunfights are resolved in a couple of rounds
3. If you think running out of rounds is a problem, then I strongly suggest a semi-auto
4. If you are going to reload in a gunfight, I hope you have the good sense to take cover first.
5. If you are behind cover, just about any method of reloading will work, but loose rounds are really slow. The rest are comparably fast
There are seldom any one size fits all answer with guns. You have to experiment and train to be prepared. The situation may change everything, such as wearing summer clothing. But i appreciate the spirit in which you are seeking advice.
Btw, I have trained with speedloaders and snap caps to reload my 686 plus in less than two seconds. But I havent tried it for a while and dont know if i have retained the skill. I also dont know how i will react under pressure.
On my TRR8, i have to use moon clips because there is no good speed loader for it. Moon clips are a little slower, and when you have 8 cylinders there is more of a chance of a bullet hanging up. I have a rubber speed loader for it that works surprisingly well, but rounds tend to fall out of it rather easily.
I highly recommend the TRR8, but this 8 shot, five inch, N frame monster isnt exactly a concealment piece. It was designed for police entry.
My trusty J frame sits in my night stand. If i go out, a revolver isnt what i want. Thats just me.
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I agree with the previous post. Revolvers are pretty bulky to begin with - carrying spare ammo on your belt makes it worse. In the rare event I leave the premises carrying a revolver, I usually drop a speed strip in my right front pocket (either Bianchi or Tuff Products) and/or a speed loader in a coat/jacket pocket (Safariland or HKS).
However, "back in the day" while on-duty law enforcement with a concealed K frame, I used the Safariland "Split-Six" pouch and a 2x2x2 ammo pouch for spare ammo. But that was on duty as opposed to off-duty or CCW carry.
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What revolver and holster is pictured? I may want to look at the holster for my S&W Mod. 13.
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What revolver and holster is pictured? I may want to look at the holster for my S&W Mod. 13.
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Ron, if your referring to my photo you'll have to ask Mike. Believe it's an N-frame of his in a 'Summer Special.'
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When I carry my M-60, I carry two speed strips in one pocket.
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HKS Speed loader in my offside pocket for my 638.
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Front left pocket, next to the mag for my .45
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Lets examine this analytically.
1. Most incidents are stopped by merely displaying a gun
2. Most gunfights are resolved in a couple of rounds
3. If you think running out of rounds is a problem, then I strongly suggest a semi-auto
4. If you are going to reload in a gunfight, I hope you have the good sense to take cover first.
5. If you are behind cover, just about any method of reloading will work, but loose rounds are really slow. The rest are comparably fast
There are seldom any one size fits all answer with guns. You have to experiment and train to be prepared. The situation may change everything, such as wearing summer clothing. But i appreciate the spirit in which you are seeking advice.
Btw, I have trained with speedloaders and snap caps to reload my 686 plus in less than two seconds. But I havent tried it for a while and dont know if i have retained the skill. I also dont know how i will react under pressure.
On my TRR8, i have to use moon clips because there is no good speed loader for it. Moon clips are a little slower, and when you have 8 cylinders there is more of a chance of a bullet hanging up. I have a rubber speed loader for it that works surprisingly well, but rounds tend to fall out of it rather easily.
I highly recommend the TRR8, but this 8 shot, five inch, N frame monster isnt exactly a concealment piece. It was designed for police entry.
My trusty J frame sits in my night stand. If i go out, a revolver isnt what i want. Thats just me.
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I personally don't care how many rounds you want to carry. You can explain to yourself why you ran out of ammunition during your gun fight. I will carry as much as I can reasonably accommodate in my clothing at the time. I dislike speed strips. Speed loaders are where it's at as I'd like to reload my teeny tiny slow poke snubnose as quickly as I can when I need to.
The moonclips that came with the TRR8 are brass generic. With the .38/.357 the groove is not spec'd in SAAMI, so they are all different. My advice is to buy Hearthco clips specific to your carry ammunition and do not use Winchester as the clips are very thin due to the narrow groove. I believe Maxxfire makes a speedloader for the 8 shot as does the five star speedloaders. Either way saying that moonclips are slower is false. Practice.
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I shoot IDPA in SSR (speedloaders) and ESR (moonclips) and am without a doubt faster with moonclips. In fact it could be that I don't shoot semi-autos as much I am realy faster with the moon clipped revolver. Jim.
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I shoot IDPA in SSR (speedloaders) and ESR (moonclips) and am without a doubt faster with moonclips. In fact it could be that I don't shoot semi-autos as much I am realy faster with the moon clipped revolver. Jim.
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As a fellow revolver guy if you dot shoot the semis as much, the reason you are faster is that you are more efficient. Less misses, less extra shots, more deliberate actions. The semis are still faster through the stage once you get the accuracy down. Enjoy the wheel!
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Homemade double speedloader case
Worn opposite the revolver on my homemade shoulder rig, this double speed loader holster has easy-to-grab leather thongs that are attached to elasticized loops that hold each speed loader in place. Pull the thong/rubber loop up and over the speed loader knob...for quick removal.
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This all fits in my front left pocket. I think I'll be alright save something I should have brought a rifle for. Reloads carried need not be ultrastreamlined to work for you.
ETA: The mags can be more streamlined, but that is my everyday setup where I can access my wallet readily. Streamlined setup lays one mag on top of the wallet and turning the other bullets forward.
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I often carry a 686 in a RH pancake holster about the 3:30-4:00 position with one of these mounted just forward. Backup J-frame in the trouser pocket and a Speed strip in the right cargo pocket. Works like a charm but a bit heavy compared to the Glock 22....
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I carry my j frame 640-1 on the back of my right hip and a couple Bianchi strips in my front left pocket. Remington 125gr .38spcl+p
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I usually carry 2 HKS speedloaders in my front pants pocket. These work just fine in jeans and khakis; but it should be noted that I like "relax fit" pants and nothing skin tight.
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Any Recommendations for a J-frame
I'm old, but new to handguns. I've seen conflicting comments online saying that the HKS 36A is both recommended and considered problematic for J-frame revolvers. I've also seen that the 5-Star J2 product is supposed to be fine tuned for J-frames, but that the bare aluminum versions are prone to not cleanly releasing the rounds because of galling damage. Any first hand experience?
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I change what I carry on a regular basis, just because I enjoy trying new things. I rarely, if ever, carry spare ammunition on my person, just a knife. My pre-planning is always this: Save myself, save my family, stop the threat, get back to the car. I can't think of a news story, ever, where a common citizen reloaded during a concealed carry incident in a public place, and I plan accordingly. If I am wrong about that, I would love to read a news story about such an event. I suspect such a story would be national news for a week.
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