Miss Granny, You have my sympathy ,for there but for the grace of God go I. Please try to not worry too much over this incident , It`s just stupid / liberal folks with an agenda over reacting and trying to make an example of you.

I was horrified at myself for forgetting my gun. The police report talked about how distressed I was. I can pretty much promise you that it will never happen again. I use a carry purse now or the new corset which now only hold my gun on my body but holds in my tummy too

Thanks so much. Once this 2nd charge is dismissed, I want to take the ADA to court for prosecutorial misconduct, discrimination, misuse of public office or whatever. I will need some help monetarily then and will look to set something up. This was an attempt to set a precedent that would hurt all of us. Win or lose - it just has to get noticed and send a message

Looks to me like they had to postpone further proceedings until they could order some more spikes for her cross.

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I don't believe negligence requires intent.

It is dangerous when we support bad behavior.

Dismissed for the 2nd time - No Probable Cause and the judge said to the prosecutor, in essence, prosecutors can't make law, the legislature does.
First - please know that the media blew this way out of proportion. My firearm was there under 5 minutes according to witnesses, there were NO CHILDREN PRESENT!!! - I am thankful for all of this. Yes, I dropped my usual vigilance. I am a responsible gun owner, unfortunately, I am human.

I have done 100's of hours of research on the abuse of prosecutors. They have absolute power to charge anyone with a crime with no probable cause and are rarely to never held responsible. It cost me thousands of dollars. Being demonized, vilified, and dehumanized by the media. My entire family has been hurt by this. And, not only did I not commit a crime, no crime was committed. I am a Caucasian,Christian, Conservative. Change my race, the papers would never have even reported this. Ditto with my religion. Imagine me being a Black, Muslim, Gay. The main stream media practices politically protected and permitted profiling! And, they hate guns and gun owners. I am far from the only person who has ever forgotten their gun in a public place in the state of Wisconsin.

This prosecutor committed an ethical violation according to the Wi State Stats. I filed a 16 page report with the Office of Lawyer Regulations. I have a case worker and await a decision.

This is way past me and way past a gun.

Leave your car running to go back into the house to get something - you can be charged like I was. Do you leave your garage door open with a saw, hammer, etc inside - you can be charged like I was. What kind of person will they be "gunning" for...

Granny is on a mission. I never realized how much damage has been done to innocent people by some prosecutors.
Start with guns - they are unpopular. Hitler - got rid of God and Guns.

BTW - for committing ethic violations, prosecutor misconduct, and malicious prosecution (according to the legal descriptions of such) for trampling several of my Constitutional rights - United States and Wisconsin, and using a citizen as a test "animal" in a legal experiment - the prosecutor got a promotion.

[QUOTE=shawn mccarver: How to use the restroom while carrying should be taught in all CCW courses."[/QUOTE]

That's a great idea, Shawn! I'm going to begin doing just that. Even after 12 1/2 yrs. of holding classes, I'm always looking for ways to improve my teaching.

Thanks, Hank M.

I suppose Waukesha County didn't want Milwaukee County to have a lock on the market for prosecutorial overreach. Congrats on the win and a lesson learned.

Good for you!

Had someone used the gun and accidentally or on purpose shot someone or something, then I could see prosecution for negligence. As it was, no one was hurt and no "unrest" was caused. It was a simple oversight and easily rectified. Filing any suit at all was a waste of the court's time and the people's money.

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Usually I don't comment on similar threads, and I didn't see this one before when it was current.

First, congratulations Granny777! This entire situation is ridiculous beyond belief! There is absolutely no reason for the Police to have ever been called to begin with as there was no crime. And I say this as a retired law-enforcement officer!

To all of those who say the subject should be pilloried, lose her permit, etc, you are all full of ....! She is human, she made a minor mistake, an oversight. If the object had been a ring or other valuable item I can say with entire certainty that everyone criticizing her would instead be congratulating her that her ring was found and returned to her!!!!!!!!!

So far as "negligence" is concerned, this is a case of "simple negligence" at the worst. This is not sufficient to bring a charge in any situation. There must be "Criminal negligence", a far higher standard, to be a foundation for a criminal charge.

All of you who were so critical of the subject should be ashamed!!! Is there a single one of you who can honestly say you have never misplaced anything in your entire adult life? There are only two types of people who can answer this, the honest ones who will admit they have, and liars. While extra vigilance is incumbent upon those who habitually carry firearms, either under a carry permit or professionally, the fact is we are all human and an unfortunate part of the human condition is to make mistakes at times, some more serious than others, but still simple mistakes.

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Granny777... so glad you found the forum and gave us an update on your situation that you came out on it with the shinny side up.

Congrats!!

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They want to make a point and remind all of us to NOT make the same mistake.

And like the former SC deputy who was on the news this week, they appear to have forgotten that there is more than one way to skin a cat.

Does anyone really think that there is someone out there whose consciousness of the dangers of losing control of your weapon in a restroom was not heightened by all the news coverage up to this point but will be if Granny goes to the big house?

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Congratulations on the win. And good for you for continuing the fight. I've read several articles on prosecutorial misconduct in WI. Many of them involve DAs misusing their power to attack political enemies. I'll leave it at that since I don't want to delve into politics.

Suffice it to say that if you can bring more attention to this, you are doing something good for all of us.

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That is precisely what many government agencies do. Their "lawyer," the prosecutor is on salary, his pay is the same win, lose or draw or whether or not there is anyone to even charge.

You, on the other hand, have to pay your lawyer for every billable minute. They count on the fact that you will run out of money before they will. This used to induce folks to plead guilty to something. Even if you prevail in court, you are bankrupted by the legal fees.