Perceived Carry Decoys - Perceived Carry Decoys

From Patriot Outdoor News, 13 Jan 2015. This seems to be a good way for someone to get killed.

Here is part of the sales pitch from the company’s website:

Of note is the fact that company's webpage links directly to a gun control advocacy group

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Retired Career Security Guard

This is wrong on so many levels.

PCD = People Contemplating Death

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Inconsistently consistent

Just when you thought you had seen everything.

This unfortunate idea seems to cater to the "open carry" crowd. I am fine with open carry, but one BIG disadvantage is that if you are open carrying late at night when you stop for a gallon of milk at the neighborhood "stop and rob," it is customary to shoot those who are armed or who are LE first.

One perceived advantage of this product, therefore, if those using it are truly gun control advocates, is eventual elimination of the mental illness "hoplophobia" from the gene pool.

Perhaps we should encourage this foolishness.

My other reaction is, "this from a Marine combat veteran?" I seriously doubt this Marine would have wanted to roam around Iraq with fake guns and holsters just to intimidate the locals.

No, one purpose of this is to get a few people killed so that everyone will stand up and say that carry (open or not) is more of a disadvantage and even dangerous for the person carrying. Sort of like they are now trying to say that keeping a gun in the home is more dangerous and more likely to cause harm to a loved one than to a real criminal.

I noticed that they haven't set any prices yet. Still in the preorder phase. Wish I'd though of it.

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Wisdom comes thru fear . . .

Darwin is alive and well, apparently.

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ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

What will happen if one of these PCD idiots walks through say Times Square with one?

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He may well regret it - if he survives, that is.


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One of the most moronic business plans I've ever heard of.


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Has to be one of the stupidest ideas ever conceived. I'm questioning the compnay owners mental state??? The first owner injured carrying such a "decoy" will own that company.

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NRA Cert. Inst. IDPA CSO

I can see the headlines now!

Dummy with fake gun shot by person with a real one!

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14 S&W Revs none with locks!

They should sell fake police badges, too. That way, you can pull out your fake gun, flash your fake badge, and yell, "Stop! Fake police!"

As stupid as it sounds, they will probably sell like crazy. In some areas, toy guns have to have the orange tip on the muzzle. These fake guns can't even be removed from the fake holster, so I wonder about the legalities regarding the orange tip?

That's part of the reason I think it's fake

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Retired Career Security Guard

I went to the "web site" of this company. It looks to me like they have "taken" (whether with permission or not, I do not know) the image of SIG Sauer, Walther, and some third brand (CZ75 ?) and Fobus for their fake gun/holster combo, which according to the site, is one piece so the fake gun does not come out of the fake holster.

If using the trade dress of these brands is with the permission of these brands, then perhaps appropriate consumer reaction would correct this foolishness. 5,000 angry emails to each of the companies or a boycott might have an effect. Gun owners were willing to throw S&W under the bus for a perceived "alliance" with the Clintons and their gun and magazine legislation.

The company's slogan, "perception is reality" sort of reminds me of the mantra of the media these days. Spin anything the way you want, and everyone believes it. Except what they are about to spin is that carrying will "get you killed."

I am going out to walk the dog to get my mind off of feeling like I have to "wash" after visiting an anti-gun web site.

This is even dumber than concealed weapons badges.

This is wrong on so many levels.. I can see the anti-cop and occupy protestors using these to cause confrontations with LEO. Somebody will get killed and then sued out of their socks.

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Eccentric old coot

That is sheer idiocy.

ROFLMAO....

I think it's great... now a shooter has to address : "Who's got a real gun??"

A new version of "Where's Waldo on Hogan's Alley?"

Now if we could just get them to grab their fake gun this would be very distracting to a active shooter....... gives the 7% (Pa. residents with CC) more time.......

might also have a positive impact on the gene pool?

It disturbs me to see a fellow marine advocate such a stupid idea.

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Semper Fi until I die

Just asking for more people to get tackled from behind at Walmart.

"...Perception is reality..."

Until reality shoots you with a functional weapon.

Silly? Yes.
Dangerous? Perhaps.

Absolute madness. Maybe they should make an AK 47 version then everyone could walk around with one strapped to a backpack.

Bluffing is for playing poker with your buddies...

He's probably a fake Marine, too.

Wearing a fake pistol??? What could go wrong with that? That wouldn't be the same company that makes police like badges for CCW?

Been thinking about this a bit. Some guy I've never seen before shows up wearing what appears to be a handgun in a holster, makes a move that leads me to believe that he is about to draw and fire, what should I do?

I think I know what might happen next.

Little boys and little girls used to play "Show me yours and I'll show you mine". I'm not a little boy anymore and I've never been a little girl. I think I will let these folks go forward with their ridiculous business plan with no participation on my part (at least I hope for that).

CARRYING A FAKE GUN IS A VERY GOOD WAY OF GETTING YOURSELF KILLED BY A BAD GUY OR THE POLICE---BOTH ARMED WITH REAL GUNS ! ! ! IT DOESN'T GET MUCH MORE STUPID THAN THIS……..

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'Nam 1968-69.DAV,VFW,NRA Inst.

I'm going to assume these guns are going to be a light weight plastic to make them easier to carry and cheaper to manufacture.

Why not just buy an airsoft gun? Theyre pretty dang realistic and atleast theyll shoot something

About 30 or so years ago a security guard in Boston had a replica gun instead of a real one. He was walking as store manager to make a bank deposit when a bad guy held them up. The guard reached for his fake gun and the robber killed him with his real gun.

I think there is actually a law on the books now forbidding security officers from using replica guns.

In the pantheon of dumb ideas, this one rates right up there.

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Can open, worms everywhere.

Good way to get shot to death.

Fake stuff's worked before, though. Anyone remember fake CB and cell phone antennas for cars? And there used to be quite a few replica guns on the market years ago. People would buy them as decorative accessories. SAAs, Thompson submachine guns, GI .45s, etc.

But this is just the wrong century for fake guns now.

The sad part is that they're gonna sell these by the thousands.

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Freedom isn't free.

Um.....why? No, really....why?

How about a rubber sword ?

I remember about 35 years ago, one of my black friends showed up one night wearing a "Holdster", a wallet carrier that looked just like a shoulder holster! I told him it was a guick way to get shot if he wore it back in Chicago where he was from! We were stationed in Germany at the time. I suspect that idea had a very short life span.

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Old paratrooper in NC

Worse idea than decaf coffee or non alcoholic beer?

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Maybe that's the intent?

I looked over the website and at first I thought it was an Onion article. The site gives me the impression that it and the product were conceived by someone who isn't familiar with guns, self-defense, or open carry.

I frequently open carry, and did so daily when I lived in downtown Tacoma WA (the most crime infested city in the PNW). I witnessed how open carry deterred a crime against me, however, I was also prepared to back it up with lead if need be. That product is too stupid to be real.

What's more interesting is that these are just Blue guns painted black. I wonder what the price will be?

I also find it interesting that they say "Be intimidating" and then "Not for self-defense."

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Freedom isn't free.

This fake gun will work really well if one of their customers is targeted by a fake criminal.

At who . . . ?

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Wisdom comes thru fear . . .

Anyone using a gun, real or fake, to intimidate is going to get hurt. I can't believe a "real" combat Marine is selling this junk.

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Old Cop
LEO (Ret.)

How ******* stupid!!!!!!!! The idiot who came up with this idea thinks criminals who will willingly attack uniformed police officers which they know are carrying REAL guns are going to be intimidated by the sight of "Casper Milquetoast" carrying a toy!!!!! What a moron!

Everyone should go to their web site! Reading it will make your stomach crawl!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Gunsmithing since 1961

Will you have to pass a background check to buy one? Mail order? Oh my.

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Bill
Dis B. Leaf

I doubt that. The idea is too obviously ridiculous. But perhaps I underestimate the credulity of the public.

It reminds of the story of the woman wearing a fake fur coat who was attacked by a man posing as an animal rights activist.

Dumb as a sack of sock lint.

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Oh well, what the hell.

Actually lint has gone for a pretty penny on ebay

Not for long.

I prefer to carry a real gun and appear to be unarmed.

Will the NY model have the front or muzzle painted orange or yellow as required by NY state law to differentiate them from real guns?

Many real guns with yellow/orange painted muzzles/barrels have been taken from perps in New York City.


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This has to be the dumbest idea I've seen yet.

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John

What could possibly go wrong?

It's a dumb idea that could people to be killed by Bad Guys thinking they are armed.