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Rule #1. Try not to poop in public restrooms.
Rule #2. Read rule #1.
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Hmmmm, let's see, how to poop with a concealed weapon, well, depends.
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A little Hoppes #2 will bring that right off
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somewhere out there is a person who is overly OCD about how to take a **** in a public restroom while CC'ing...
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There's a great advantage in having metal belt clips, or wrap-a-round snap loops on your belt rig. They're easy to detach and rest the rig on the tank top, toilet roll dispenser, or changing table. YES....wedged between the handrail and wall of the handicapped stall works, too.
The underwear hammock is a risky proposition. The gun is inevitably going to fall off of the suspension bridge and clatter onto the tile. Hopefully it won't slide so far as to be within reach of your neighboring stall.
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Just another reason to pocket carry. Don't know if I could love one of my big guns if it'd been on the toilet floor
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This just sounds like one of those things that we all have to figure out on our own.
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I still laugh my *** off till this day thinking about it.
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That may be one reason some folks found the post so disturbing.
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This just sounds like one of those things that we all have to figure out on our own.
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True, but isn't it so much fun to share ideas on the best way to do it
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Yes , this is a serious topic.
As noted , the hooks on the door are a bad idea , unless you are inside a secured facility.
The when all else is not practical, default solution is to place the gun in the crotch area of the pants , but underneath the underwear.
If the stall has a solid wall on the gun side becomes a viable choice.
Depending on the specific gun and holster, put the waistband of the underwear over top of the gun to disguise it.
I personally know of too many guns left behind on toilet tanks. Tank lids often are not level , and porclen is slick. Twist around or shift your weight while doing paperwork , and they can slide off. And an increasing number of public restrooms use the metal vavle with handle or infared sensor instead of a tank..
Lots of variables as to the design and placement of TP dispensers and handicaped rails, and baby changing stations. Sometimes they are both capable of securely storing a gun , AND not within reach of over or under a divider , some times one or both is not.
And while on the subject of public restrooms , standing at a urinal leaves you vulverable to being sucker pucnched in the back of the head , or having head slammed into the wall in front of you. Using a stall give another layer of defense.
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I was taught to place the weapon in your trousers between your legs, no way to forget it there. Saw a few guys catch a suspension when the left their weapons on toilet tanks.
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Or a shoulder holster!
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Gingerly place it in the pants/underpants area, between your legs, when you pull your pants down. There is no way you can forget it and it is easy to get to in the unfortunate event you need it in a hurry.
People do forget them when leaving stalls.
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This. You have control of your weapon.
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I was once using the handicapped stall for that very reason. Also just cause I like some space. I see a wheelchair come in and try my door. Curses under his breath. I see him trying to get into a regular stall. No luck. Cursing continues. I can't wait him out, so I have to leave. I drag my leg as if I'm disabled. He wasn't buying it.
I still laugh my *** off till this day thinking about it.
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As the father of a disabled son, who has many times had to struggle getting him into a regular bathroom stall because some able bodied person has taken the handicap stall, I find this behavior, and the fact that you still find it funny disgusting.
Those stalls are put there for people who actually need them. Not for those who like a little extra leg room.
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Or a shoulder holster!
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But then what do you do when it's 110 degrees in the summer or taking your jacket off indoors
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So here's a question for you guys about the handicap toilet. Now don't get me wrong I'm not advocating everyone just use the handicap stall but.....what do you do when you gotta go and the only other stall is occupied. Do you wait and wait on the odd chance that a handicap person (a real handicap person) had to use it or do you use the handicap stall? I personally just use the second stall. Now I have never ever ran into a handicap person in the bathroom but sometimes while you're doing your business the guy occupying the 1st stall is done and leaves. This makes it seem to to the next person that you intentionally used the handicap stall
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Guys, ditch the kbm6893 pile on -- he's already acknowledged error, that the laughter was at himself, and that he never did it again. Unless you've never wronged, even a little, don't get too righteous.
As to the OP:
I simply **** my pants; if the first rule of self-defense is avoiding the people you might have to defend against, my technique goes one better: it makes them avoid you.
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....what do you do when you gotta go and the only other stall is occupied. Do you wait and wait on the odd chance that a handicap person (a real handicap person) had to use it or do you use the handicap stall?
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This is a reasonable question.
For me, the answer is simple. I would only be in the public restroom if it were an emergency anyway. So, I'll pick the one that's available. I wouldn't choose the handicap one first, but if it's the only one left, I'll use it. I'll do my thing and get out. It was an emergency after all.
That is the only time I'd do that.
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Oh, stop with the righteous indignation. I was 23 years old and I was busted. So I tried to cover my mistake and it backfired. My laughter to this day was at me being busted.
So I guess if you have an emergency and the regular stall is occupied, that using the handicapped stall is also such a transgression?
Lighten up, people.
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Well, that didn't take long.....showin' ya true colors and all,
That just sad.
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Not like it's the first time.
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quote"But Noooooo let's get the rope out!"
Not a bad idea. Hang that thing around your neck carefully. They did make lanyards years ago...
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Not like it's the first time.
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A former female colleague wore mid calf type boots with her uniform. According to her, with those particular boots there was sufficient space to "holster" her sidearm between the boot top & her leg.
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So here's a question for you guys about the handicap toilet. Now don't get me wrong I'm not advocating everyone just use the handicap stall but.....what do you do when you gotta go and the only other stall is occupied. Do you wait and wait on the odd chance that a handicap person (a real handicap person) had to use it or do you use the handicap stall? I personally just use the second stall. Now I have never ever ran into a handicap person in the bathroom but sometimes while you're doing your business the guy occupying the 1st stall is done and leaves. This makes it seem to to the next person that you intentionally used the handicap stall
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Having been in the position of having to trying to get my son out of his wheelchair into a regular size stall. Having to leave the chair out of the stall and the door open for all the world to see him and I work to get his clothes off and situated to use the bathroom. All because someone else has decided to use the handicap stall, I'd rather poop my pants than take a chance to put another dad in that position with his child. Or an adult who uses a walker or chair and needs the supports.
In my younger days before being in the position to see it from another side, I would have used the stall in an emergency situation, now I wouldn't even consider it.
Perspective on things gives you reasons to change your outlook and your actions. Sometimes until you stand in someone elses place, you may not understand fully what your actions do to them without your intentions being bad.
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We're not talking opening the paper and settling in like we do at home. A quick deuce and out should take no more than a minute or two, and I believe I can recall a disabled person coming into the bathroom while I am even in the room in my life on less than 2 hands.
Course it's not funny making a disabled person struggle more in his already difficult life. But lighten up, people. Nobody is kicking puppies here.
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Take it out and put it on the toilet paper dispenser or anything that acts as a shelf. Just don't forget it afterwards.
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Terrible, horrible, no good, very bad advice. This is the first comment I read before I replied. I know of two people personally who have left firearms in the stall, and have read news accounts of multiple other similar occurrences. Firearms get left on the toilet paper holder, the top of the tank, and hanging by the trigger guard from the coat hook on the door. DON'T DO IT. Leave it in the holster, keep your pants high so the adjoining poopers don't see it, and do your business. There are multiple accounts of firearms left on toilet paper dispensers or shelves or coat hooks or the top of the tank, but not one, not even one, of a firearm being found in a holster attached to a pair of pants in a toilet stall.
Here endeth the lesson.
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Well, this thread started with poop -- shouldn't be surprised it's gone to it, I guess...
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Terrible, horrible, no good, very bad advice. This is the first comment I read before I replied. I know of two people personally who have left firearms in the stall, and have read news accounts of multiple other similar occurrences. Firearms get left on the toilet paper holder, the top of the tank, and hanging by the trigger guard from the coat hook on the door. DON'T DO IT. Leave it in the holster, keep your pants high so the adjoining poopers don't see it, and do your business. There are multiple accounts of firearms left on toilet paper dispensers or shelves or coat hooks or the top of the tank, but not one, not even one, of a firearm being found in a holster attached to a pair of pants in a toilet stall.
Here endeth the lesson.
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Never left a firearm. Never will. It would be like forgetting to put my pants on before walking out. When I go in a stall out comes my gun, cell phone and smokes. All go in the same spot assuming there is one. Absent minded people maybe forget but that's their problem.
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I left my gun in a changing room once. Only for a few seconds, but it left its mark. Never done it since.
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Back to the original question :
Assume standard position for intended activity while holding onto belt and attachments. While seated, close belt 'loosely' and keep leg tension on sides of pants so gun does not flop onto floor. Stand carefully, as you may trip if you don't . Reassemble attire and carry on smartly.
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I would just leave it in the holster, I would hope that everyone looking under the stall that I'm in would see my gun, flippin perverted buttholes!!
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I prefer to use the handicap stall because the stool is taller and it's easier on my back. I don't spend anymore time in there than I need to so if someone has to wait that's life. I've had to wait so long on a stall that I've been forced to leave and look for another restroom. Being a trucker for almost 40 years has taught me a thing or two about public restrooms. I've spent to many days driving for hours in pain because some butthead was reading or just paranoid to **** in public and would not give up a stall regardless of the situation. Myself, I would place the gun in my pants if need be and get out of there asap because life is to short to spend it in the *******.
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In an unnamed location I used to work at, I went to one of the bathrooms and found a Glock 22 .40 on the sink.......I got it back to the guy without anyone finding out......
Heard another story from another unnamed job where a doctor found a S&W 65 in the bathroom at a hospital, luckily he was cool and just gave it back.
Rule 1, don't forget your gun!
I just leave it holstered, I carry IWB and if someone reaches under the stall to grab my gun we have more serious issues at hand than trying to hide the gun while pooping. Before I leave the stall I make sure I have my wallet, keys, phone, gun etc.
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In an unnamed location I used to work at, I went to one of the bathrooms and found a Glock 22 .40 on the sink.......I got it back to the guy without anyone finding out......
Heard another story from another unnamed job where a doctor found a S&W 65 in the bathroom at a hospital, luckily he was cool and just gave it back.
Rule 1, don't forget your gun!
I just leave it holstered, I carry IWB and if someone reaches under the stall to grab my gun we have more serious issues at hand than trying to hide the gun while pooping. Before I leave the stall I make sure I have my wallet, keys, phone, gun etc.
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Rule Number One: Is correct....
I've found all kinds of equipment left in the wilderness by those answerin' the call of nature.
Once found a holstered *Ruger Super Blackhawk hangin' by the gunbelt on a tree limb near a log....
*After a lit'l lost and found clip in the local newspaper it was re-united with is rightful owner.
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Like serving a warrant in a bad neighborhood...gun in one hand, paper in the other.
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I was on a roadblock with four other MP's during a riot in DC, armed with a shotgun, rifles, ammo, and lots of CS gas grenades among us, when one guy had to take a dump. We had been using a men's room in a gas station on the corner, so he headed over there. When he dropped trou and tried to sit down, he realized that his webgear was too bulky to get properly situated. He unhooked the web belt, shrugged out of the harness, and tossed the mass of straps and pouches on the floor. To his horror, one of the gas grenades went off, leaving him with pants down around his ankles, gas mask tangled therein, business on the way, rifle and gear on the floor, and the small room rapidly filling with the most noxious non-lethal stuff you could imagine. He pinched his loaf, grabbed his gear, and stumbled out of the room in a white cloud of gas, pants still around his ankles. We'd heard him yell and saw him emerge from the cloud, crying, coughing, drooling and puking, an image that is, to borrow a popular phrase, seared in my memory. I can't remember his name or see his face anymore, but I can still see that olive drab wraith with pale legs staggering out of the cloud of gas.
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Now that's funny, and it triggered a forgotten memory: in '81 I was just arrived in El Salvador and there was a "small war" going on. I had just cleared customs and hit the head. As I walked into the mens room in the airport lobby I see two G3s propped in the corner. Right then a young fellow in uniform came out of a stall, picked up his rifle and waited for his partner to come out. His partner came out of the same stall...
They slung their weapons, smiled and went out.
Whatever.......
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This comes up frequently and I really don't get the issue. Leave the gun in the holster on your belt. Do your business and then before you leave make sure your gun and holster are again covered. No need to take it out at all, far less risky that way.
Being female I always have to use public restrooms. I probably know the details of nearly very public restroom in every store we ever shop at ;-)
The biggest issue is making sure that the clothing is back in place before leaving.
Often there aren't any hooks so hanging something up (purse or gun belt) is not an option most places.
Also not letting pants etc. touch the floor is only good sense. So no risk of the firearm being seen by someone from the outside because the belt never gets below the level of the door.
My concern is making sure I find a stall that has a working lock.
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Irrelevant minutae.
Just go in there and pinch a loaf.
Secure you equipment.
Leave.
Be polite.
Flush.
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Last night news did spot on the number of security people leaving their guns in the toilet stalls at the State Capitol Building, they are now in session,
seems like it's getting to be somewhat of a problem. Most were found by adults , but one loaded gun was found by a child .
If I were a security guard (one instance involved a Senator's Body Guard!) my gun would be the last thing I would leave in the rest room. What are they thinking!
I thought about this post! They need to read some of the tips so they won't forget their piece in the privy!
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I think this is where women have an advantage over men.. We have purses... I have intestinal disease. This means I use the restroom a lot! I carry AIWB. When I need to use the restroom, I do put my purse on the hook. The hooks usually have a larger straight out hook and a smaller curved hook below the straight hook. I put my purse on the smaller hook. I make sure that the purse is within reach. If the hook is too far away, then I just keep wearing my purse. I take the gun holster and all (if I am using a sticky type of holster that day) and put it in my purse. If I am wearing a clip on holster, I carefully put the gun in my purse, on top of my stuff, slide down, and pointed away from people. I also always make sure that my thumb safety is always on. Personally, I do not care for CC guns w/o thumb safeties.
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when on the rare and emergency status of public restroom use, i keep my pants up around my knees. don't want 'em on the floor if i can avoid it. hate the thought of public toilets but the need does arise. those are the days i hope i'm only pocket carrying...
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pants halfway down the calf, spread legs enough they stay at that height, set pistol inside pants.
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There are some restrooms with only one stall and one urinal, like in QuikTrip, and, guess what? The stall is a handicapped accessible stall with a changing shelf in it. Sorry, folks, but I ain't cr***ing myself for anyone.
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LMAO!!! This is the funniest thread I've read in months!
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Well, funny and sad all at the same time.
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I suppose asking the attendant to hold it for you is not a good idea?
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Not all disabilities are visible. I just stare back at those waiting to use the stall when I exit. How do they know you're not "handicapped" in some way?
Now, after saying that, I rarely use the handicapped stall, because I don't want to inconvenience those who may truly need the room or facilities.
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I am handicapped, but not wheelchair bound. The handicapped stalls are just larger for wheelchair access, not owned by the disabled. As in any other instance, people should just be thoughtful and courteous of others. That being said, I always remember the immortal words of Alfred E. Newman. '' Look before you flush, you may have dropped your wallet. ''
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I have a son with cerebral palsy. He can walk, just barely. Sometimes he has to wait to use the *******, sometimes I have to wait to use one. Such is life. The handicap stall is there so they have a place that they can use Sometimes they have to wait their turn just like everyone else.. I wouldn't take the handicap stall if another available, but if its open I am using it. I leave my gun in my pocket.
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