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Old 05-11-2015, 10:30 AM
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Not too far from my house, maybe 5 miles, a woman disarmed and then shot her ex boyfriend. The police chief, so far, has refused to arrest her.
The DA is Judge Judy's son, and he has even less interest in prosecuting her.

Mahopac woman shoots, kills ex-boyfriend after break-in: cops
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Old 05-11-2015, 10:38 AM
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Absent of evidence that she is not telling the truth about what happened, why would either have any interest in arresting her?
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Old 05-11-2015, 11:28 AM
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Need to understand that the "DA" is the "Chief" law enforcement officer of his jurisdiction and he decides who gets prosecuted and who does not - regardless of who his (or anybody's) mother is....
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Old 05-11-2015, 07:23 PM
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From the article, it sounds like a good case of self defense.
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The obligation of a prosecutor is to do justice, not merely to seek convictions. (See Rule of Professional Conduct 3.8, and one of my tats.) As far as I know, all state bars have this rule or something very similar. There is nothing here that would indicate to me that there is a basis for prosecution of the woman (clearly a victim, her house was broken in to; he was looking for a fight and got it). The facts would have to be a lot different to call this a littering.
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Old 05-16-2015, 12:22 AM
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The real question is who is going to date her now?? Kyle
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Sounds like you have a good Chief and DA. I believe she was well with in her rights. Anyone breaking into a home carrying a gun deserves to get shot. He may have been disarmed once she had his gun, but that doesn't mean he was no longer a threat and I don't care that in the heat of the moment she just up and shot him. I give her all the benefit of doubt, him none. I firmly believe shooting someone breaking into another persons home is an imminent threat and the resident has every right to shoot said person(s). Even if invader did surrender and was a gun point they had best stay very very still. The distances inside a home don't give one much time to make a decision as to intent and as evil intent has already been displayed by the break in I wouldn't blame anyone for assuming that any movement had a negative intent.

Yes, I believe in the "Castle doctrine". I doubt she would have been held or even subject to much interrogation anywhere around here.

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Just another shooting, one of hundreds that happen in this country every day. I don't understand why these little local individual incidents seem to end up on gun forums as something that needs to be analyzed, discussed, and dissected as though they're the crime of the century. There's nothing special about this one.

We had a shooting here this morning, two people killed. Had one Saturday. And another one Sunday. They rate about two minutes worth of coverage on the local news channels. People here wake up expecting to hear about another shooting.
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As the Big City Dicks would say here...
"Scene cleared".

"NEXT" !
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Just another shooting, one of hundreds that happen in this country every day. I don't understand why these little local individual incidents seem to end up on gun forums as something that needs to be analyzed, discussed, and dissected as though they're the crime of the century. There's nothing special about this one.

We had a shooting here this morning, two people killed. Had one Saturday. And another one Sunday. They rate about two minutes worth of coverage on the local news channels. People here wake up expecting to hear about another shooting.
Don't like the facts, but I like the post.

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Just another shooting, one of hundreds that happen in this country every day. I don't understand why these little local individual incidents seem to end up on gun forums as something that needs to be analyzed, discussed, and dissected as though they're the crime of the century. There's nothing special about this one.

We had a shooting here this morning, two people killed. Had one Saturday. And another one Sunday. They rate about two minutes worth of coverage on the local news channels. People here wake up expecting to hear about another shooting.
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Just another shooting, one of hundreds that happen in this country every day. I don't understand why these little local individual incidents seem to end up on gun forums as something that needs to be analyzed, discussed, and dissected as though they're the crime of the century. There's nothing special about this one.

We had a shooting here this morning, two people killed. Had one Saturday. And another one Sunday. They rate about two minutes worth of coverage on the local news channels. People here wake up expecting to hear about another shooting.
When this becomes your attitude about shootings, it may be time to move.

And how many of your shootings involve a domestic situation where the woman got the upper hand on the lowlife boyfriend?

The potential was there in this case for prosecution, some states do not have a Castle law. And she would could have been prosecuted for not trying to flee once she got the gun.

Too bad it wasn't another "How old is my gun?" post.

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I think the unusual feature of this story for many of us is that there is a DA in New York State who can make an intelligent decision like this after a shooting. Good job, Mr. DA!!!!
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I think the unusual feature of this story for many of us is that there is a DA in New York State who can make an intelligent decision like this after a shooting. Good job, Mr. DA!!!!
YOU obviously "get it"


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The obligation of a prosecutor is to do justice, not merely to seek convictions. (See Rule of Professional Conduct 3.8, and one of my tats.) .
Its a shame more prosecutors don't live up to that.
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The fact that the shooter was a woman made all the difference. Switch the story to boyfriend shoots ex boyfriend and it's a different story.

Better yet, switch story to abused woman uses unregistered but legally bought in another state and tell me how it ends.

Glad the woman is OK and not charged. Of course, she's still gonna get sued.
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Not necessarily. Depends on a lot of facts, not the least of which is if there is anyone with standing and a damn to give. Had one in Spokanistan a couple years back, not prudent in my opinion, jury acquitted (and quickly). Might have been a good littering or criminal damage to occupied clothing, but still not prudent. Survivors of offender made a lot of noise about suing, but I'd bet not one plaintiff's lawyer cares or would be willing to waste their time. No real chance of prevailing, and the measure of damages is about $1.72.
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*Note to self* DON"T move to North Carolina!
I wouldn't blame you or anyone else one bit for not moving to North Carolina. The state is no longer the quaint little Southern state best known for growing tobacco and cotton and its college basketball.

There are large areas of violence here, and my city is the primary one, in my opinion. Just this week, the feds and local cops arrested and indicted 37 members of MS-13 for crimes ranging from assault, drug dealing, and murder.

Right this minute as I write this, there have been two murders within twenty miles of me, and a SWAT standoff is in progress in another area right now.

So yeah, don't come here.
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When this becomes your attitude about shootings, it may be time to move.
No, I'm not going anywhere, mostly for fiscal reasons. Attitude? No...just a realistic way of viewing the world around me.
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And how many of your shootings involve a domestic situation where the woman got the upper hand on the lowlife boyfriend?
I wouldn't have the slightest idea, although there have been a few, but I can't remember when. But it isn't my job to compile statistics about murders and the rationale behind them.

Going back to "attitude" again, I still see this as just another shooting, just some details are different, that's all. When I read about murders, shootings, armed robberies, armed assaults, etc., etc. in the news every day, "in my backyard", I tend to become a bit jaded, a bit blasé. It just doesn't seem to be big news any more. It's pretty simple to understand, really.
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Too bad it wasn't another "How old is my gun?" post.
No idea what that has to do with anything in this thread.
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